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I want to say Cleveland was 4A in 2018. 7 years later they are 6A. Went from a 900 high school enrollment to now 3736. 4x larger in a 7-8 year span. Those are just the numbers, which is very unbelievable, but does not account for who those numbers represent. That's the real issue. There are only 32 schools out over 1200 in the state of Texas that has a larger enrollment than Cleveland. Just about every single one of them are larger metro area schools. No one could have been prepared for what Cleveland has had to go through. NO ONE!!!

LMAO!!! Pass a bond??? The vast majority of the new folks there don't pay any taxes, including school taxes. You just don't get it. Sometimes I wonder.....

I didn’t mention state tournament appearances by both baseball and softball just a few years ago. Like someone said, you must have parents involved and a system in place that will foster positive growth and opportunities

50% is nowhere near 90%. It’s also substantially easier to remain competitive with a handful of good athletes in 3A than it is in 6A. And a final factor here is that Diboll without a doubt has a large number of second generation Hispanics. Kids that grew up playing American sports. The vast majority of the kids moving to Cleveland have never even touched a basketball or football when they get there. I’m not saying that Hispanic kids aren’t capable of playing football and basketball. I am saying kids who don’t grow up playing those sports aren’t going to help their high school somehow just because there’s 3000 of them. It’s also worth noting that if every Hispanic kid in Diboll (500 total enrolled students) and Cleveland (3500 total enrolled students) didn’t play football or basketball, the two schools’ potential player pools would be within 50 kids of each other.

What's the excuse for all the other years? Lol. That's a crock of ****.

Lamar’s game made the Bad Beats segment on last night’s Sportscenter. Starts about 7:30 into the video. Pretty hysterical lol

That might just mean Cleveland ISD hasn't done a great job of adding coaches (maybe bilingual) who can build rapport with the youngsters and get them engaged in athletics at a younger age. I can understand struggling in the beginning but after years of being 6A and still struggling to beat 3A teams that falls on the school board and the coaches in my opinion. Seems maybe it just isn't a big enough priority to them or else they'd figure how to get a decent roster out of thousands of kids by now

How did he do it? He takes credit for all kinds of things whether he know anything about it or not. It won’t wind up as it seems. He’s a weasel.

Locals meaning “non-Colony Ridge” residents. Particularly the power brokers who wield political influence. Bonds have been attempted on a regular basis including last year. They fail by a large margin. Colony Ridge is the largest migrant community in the United States. Cleveland dynamics/situation are unprecedented in the state.

To get back to your “majority Hispanic but still good at football point”… Cleveland is 90% Hispanic. Less than half their football team is. Because of the influx of nearly 3000 Hispanic students in the high school they’re playing 6A ball, and 23 of those 3000 kids play varsity football. There is no comparison possible. It’s unprecedented, and it seems impossible to overcome.

Diboll has a large Hispanic population in school system, over 50% and large part of team are Hispanic year over year and they’ve remain competitive for most part, down years past couple seasons but they’ll be back. Just glance at the roster

Lumberton growth is nothing like Cleveland growth. If you can't see or understand that, then I am wasting my time.

We’ve had this discussion before. ‘Unwanted growth’ to me is still the craziest thing that I’ve ever heard.

The hostage release is a major Trump victory

All depend on what kind of "growth" it is. No one wants the Cleveland "growth".

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Bellville @ La Grange also. Margaritas at Las Fuentes first.

I picked BH in the pick'ems, but im hoping for a BU dub.

I may slide down to PA Friday night.....

I picked Old River but I would be very happy if United wins

My 7th grader is getting to twirl with the high school band, so I’ll be attending HF and Jasper.

I truly applaud Trump and his team for the accomplishment, but am cautiously watching to see if peace holds up. They are vicious and ruthless over there and full of hate.

DCTF has Bridge City as an 18 point favorite.

Standings updated through week 7.

I almost picked them too! 😂

Very, very true. Definitely did not have the football program or the kids' best interest with the hire.

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I think everyone knows what to expect. That’s the issue.

It's going to be rare that we beat any team by 40+ because we play a lot of reserves and early in the game as soon as we have a comfortable lead.

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He (hoss on bonanza) played football for Sul Ross . Way back in my college days.

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Insanely quickly, sorta like how those newer schools pop up in the Htown area and then blow up within 3-4 years, I think it was the same amount of timing for Cleveland HS.

Shepherd will lose there next 4 games

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I agree, I’m not from Cleveland area but have seen the explosive growth and development in that area. I don’t have to describe it, you all are familiar and if it’s a generational thing, then time will have to be a mitigating factor where 2nd and 3rd gen’s will have to close the gap, but as you said much harder in the upper classifications. The Hispanics in Diboll are definitely not 1st gen

I agree with that 100%. But I still maintain that you’re talking about two completely different environments

Great points Cleveland has a very unique situation that I don’t know will improve anytime soon

This topic pops up yearly now. 🍿

Yep, Horns got exposed.......

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Futbol?

Yea I agree. I think I’d take a TD off that line. Maybe 33. West Fork isn’t that bad and I doubt PNG will be trying to steamroll them with the last 3 games to play on deck.

I saw WF in person against Nederland last week. They’re definitely better than last year. I sat near the WF sideline. It really seems like they’re bought in to coach mcdougald’s system, working well together. Beating Nederland should go in their records as the first consequential district win in school history. Before last week they had only ever beaten Splendora in district. Now they’re in 3rd place. Hats off to them. As far as PNG vs WF, it will be PNG by quite a bit. WF has a solid defense, and the offense has moved the ball in fits and spurts. They don’t have a lot of size or strength. They didn’t have much success running the ball against Nederland. They were smart about their play calling and took advantage of a few short and long passes to keep the chains moving, but if Ned’s secondary had been a little better or if the WF qb/wrs had not played their best game in school history, they would have almost no offense. Hopefully PnG covers the pass better. Overall, WF won’t be able to run, PnG will get to the qb better than Ned, PnG’s secondary will cover, and, importantly, PnG’s o-line and RBs will have control of the game from the get-go. PNG 45-14.

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Last year, Shepherd was averaging 355 yards rushing per game going into Silsbee game. Tigers held them to 215. WO-S held them to their 2nd lowest rushing total of 223 yards. The other 8 games Shepherd rushed for 300+. I like WO-S in this one, 30-13

Team stats HF Silsbee rushing 19/25 yds 50/348 yds passing 19-27, 189 yds 3-7, 30 yds total 46 plays/214 yds 57 plays/378 yds Silsbee held HF to just 1.3 yards per rush. It was also the first time this year that HF didn't rush for 100+ yards. The 214 total yards was the fewest that HF has had all season. Next lowest was against Crawford when they had 255. HF came into the game averaging 387 yards total offense (203 rushing, 184 passing) The 20 points was also the lowest score for HF this season. (came in averaging 35 points per game) Seven of those points came on the little Hail Mary pass on final play of game against Silsbee's 2nd team. Tiger defense really showed out. Silsbee run game was dominant.