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This season, more so than any other that I can remember in my 15 or so years on SETXsports, we're having a major problem with multiple posters from multiple teams continually bashing, criticizing, and insulting various area coaches. Moderators have had to post the no coach-bashing rule in multiple threads that have gone off the rails due to complaints about coaching. There are ways to express yourself without violating this rule. If you can't find a way to do so, I'd suggest avoiding the topic completely. I don't care if WOS goes 2-8, if Vidor runs the ball up the middle 200 times in a row, or if Hull-Daisetta doesn't listen to the experts and mismanages the clock while calling the wrong plays. Anyone who violates this rule during the remainder of the season is receiving an immediate one-week ban. Violations are decided by moderator discretion. If you continue to violate the rule once you return you will be banned permanently. If you're about to make a post about coaching, but you're not sure if it's okay, don't make it. Save your opinion for facebook, or better yet, go to the game and scream it in the stands with the other coaching experts. It's important to remember that while our site encourages healthy discussion, we demand an atmosphere of respect towards our local players, coaches, and communities, no matter your opinion of their performance.. Please remember that this post is your free warning. Any questions about this rule, or about a post you'd like to make, may be sent to myself or other moderators in private message for clarification without repercussions. Below, for the fiftieth time, is the rule that so many of you continue to violate. Thank you, and happy posting. 18 ) The bashing of any particular coach, player, referee, etc will not be tolerated. This includes issues involving their personal lives, coaching/playing style or performance, past experiences, etc.

3A Franklin is 5-0 this season running the Slot T, won State Championship last year. 5A Liberty Hill Slot T is 4-1 this year with one lost by 7 points, an are averaging almost 50 points a game this year. Made it to State Championship last year an fell short.

Opportunity for some of yalls youngsters to make a name for themselves and give their coaches a headache about who should get more playing time once those who are injured returns. 🤷🏾‍♂️ It would be okay if they waited til next week to play well though 😁

regardless of what people may think KT was an absolute monster for us during the 97 & 98 WOS football seasons. He was the back up QB as well but Cornel used his heart & determination to be a hybrid at the Rover End in the 50 defense (which is basically a defensive back in a nickel package/defense). He was a unanimous AllState selection despite his stature. I remain quiet on alot that's spoken here because much of what some of you say isn't worth a wet roll of toilet paper. Lol But I will say this - my main gripe was "be careful what you ask for" when there became an outcry to run CT out of town. Now kids can't even line up properly, at times looking completely lost as if they aren't even coached up in practice. I'm baffled how all of a sudden the WOS defense cant tackle, defend the deep ball, or control the line of scrimmage on either side.

AP did it without their All-State senior running back too. And they are plagued by penalties each week. They were tri-district champs last year and now they have a legit QB who will be playing on Saturdays, and that analysis is based on him as a FRESHMEN. Before week 5 he had just under 1000 yards, 11 TDs 1 int. So my point is now they have an offense that can be carried by their star running back or now by their QB.

Toby has sent something like 30-40 kids to school on FULL RIDES. He is very involved with the track program which anybody will tell you, a good track team correlates to a good football team. He is well connected and respected by college coaches.

^^ THIS ^^

Looks like WOS should have hired this guy.

Coach Faircloth has lead SS to a 4-1 record beating Liberty-Eylau 24-6. Liberty-Eulau was ranked 15th in 4a d2. Coach Faircloth took over a SS team that was 0-10 last season. Before tonight's game SS was ranked #21 in 4a d1. His only loss this season coming at the hands of Hallsville a 5a d2 ranked #20 school. That loss was 34-21. SS hadn't won back to back games since 2018. I believe they had only won 4 games since 2018. This is a great example of the difference a great coach can make.

10-4, I watched your FBM game you guys have some giants on your team. - I've been on the board lately rattling some cages just for a little fun. Every other year Dayton would be an automatic win for our opponents. This year we have a decent team and actually fun to watch. PNG and Big Ned always a class act good luck going forward.

Picking Dayton for the win in this one but I think Dayton's defense may need to tighten up a little to make that happen.

Heat, conserve energy, non district game with zero implications on district standings.

a team with their backs against a wall vs a team looking for payback. Makes for a very good ballgame.

LCM Lumberton HH Livingston/Vidor

The past really doesn't matter in situations like this. We've got to be a lot better than we have been lately to win this game.

Crosby over GCM 3-0

A good coach capitalizes on weak points. How do you think he amassed such a winning record?

They weren’t even close a couple of weeks ago. The visitor restrooms weren’t finished and the ramps and stairs weren’t complete either. Not to mention construction debris still everywhere. From what I can tell by driving by the ramps and stairs are done, there might be a little work on the inside of the visitor RR left and all the debris is gone. They are patching the parking lot where it was torn up. They have four more days of nice weather they should have it done. If not the ISD needs to be getting money back from the builder.

Are you sure it’s not for Academic purposes? Lol

Absolutely, its 100% for athletic purposes.

I tell you, WOS alumni are out there everywhere making a difference in kids lives. He came back to give a speech to the team a couple weeks ago.

Bulldogs easy!

We’ll BmtSoulja just be glad your not Warner College, they lost to SFA yesterday 98 to 0 !!

Me too. I've never seen a bye week hurt a team so much as it did PNG last week. They'll get it back together for this coming Friday.

Its fairly simple "Coaching" These District has no program builders!! and the ones they have don't stay long. Its never been talent. If you think schools like Westlake, Liberty Hill, Midland Lee, Katy etc have more talent your crazy, but what they do have that makes them look better is dedication and buy in, and honestly I can't even be mad at the kids for not having that here, when the coaching is a revolving door in BISD???? Then not only does BISD want to hire their homeboys when its way better qualified candidates who know how to build up programs, to the point coaches don't even want to apply in the city anymore but they lowball coaches with sub-par salaries so who would want to come here??? Im just tell this story and let y'all figure it out. In 2008-2011 my nephew attended Central when coach Stowers was the coach. His parents was taking him and his siblings for summer vacation but instead of going he wanted to stay with me to attend summer workouts mind you he was a sophomore, not even on varsity. When I would go drop him off most of the team was at workouts or on the field, so much so they had to divide the kids into different workout groups which the older kids said hadn't been done since they arrived. Then 7on7 was mandatory so when they went 4 rounds in 09 I wasn't really surprised. those kids were brought in and believed in Stowers. Im not sure the kids are there right now thus the results we've seen this this past years. This is also how schools like Katy work. My nephew ended up getting a scholarship, so during the summer he would come live with me in Houston to train with Kerry Bennett (Orange Tx native) at a gym he had in Katy. He would tell me after him and other college players from various schools would finish their workout sessions the whole varsity Katy football team would meet up there at 5 for workouts every other day during the summer on top of the team workouts they had already did earlier that morning. for their 2nd workout of the day before 7 on 7 practice. All Player Led!!! The coaches had nothing to do with it, and when a player didn't show up his teammates would deal with him... Thats It that's the difference. When players are brought in, the parents are Brought in and it can change everything and that starts from the top Coaching!!

You are “oh so funny”!! Lol

You would be wrong in that regard. When Creaduer was head coach and Lumberton went on that 3 year run in the playoffs beating teams like LaMarque, those teams played great defense.

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@LCMAlumtiger32 your right We (WOCCISD) HIRED a Tiger that a tiger didn't even hire, for whatever reason A tiger that was a part time coach (theoretically )at the time of hire Because of our lovely superintendent grooming him for the AD/HC Position ...LOL #IFYOUKNOWYOUKNOW FACTS

I guess as a outsider because im from orange. Silsbee didnt hire Hick at silsbee as Head Coach they went with Smith instead. Hmm i wonder why? I understand why Toby didnt get the iob the first time. He had to compete with a great coach but now hearing all these things about CT why didn't WOS stand up then? But i heard that hick had the job in the bag before he got hired and that WOS didnt go outside to fine a great coach. Because the list of coaches that applied were people ive never heard of. You cant tell me no one wanted one of the most talented teams in the state.

They should have done their homework on who to bring in to meet those Great Expectations. I was being satirical with my statement by the way.

I didn’t know Todd Dodge was the head coach at PNG! Then he goes on bashing T because at 5’7, 150 lb at DE he couldn’t get a scholarship. He has passion for the silver and blue, but damn, the more he ranted, the goofier he sounded.

It might get ugly, but Silsbee needs to work on being more disciplined. A good clean game with no bone headed penalties should be a goal to aim for this week.

You should do your research. The ethnicity of Barrett Station is changing. Most of those kids are playing soccer.

Newton baby!

How was your game today? Also, go check never made an excuse for this loss we got whooped. Funny how yall all seem so interested when Crosby loses.

Stop being a poor loser. This is why most in the area give Barrett Station Coog Fans hell.

COMMUNITY INFLUENCE

Faircloth at WOS would be unbelievable.

People should be careful what they ask for.

Fire Starter

Bench press season is coming!

I disagree. Silsbee was and is the better team.

I posted the following in the WB Summer Creek thread WB and BU are low on talent lately but even if Beaumont had 1 school, 2 schools, or 3 it wouldn’t make a difference. For the most part, and there are a few exceptions but not many, the successful schools in 5 and 6a are large suburban schools in which the districts have money and the parents too. The schools have better facilities, coaches, and the parents have money to pay for individual coaching. For the most part WB and BU are missing both of these two ingredients. It’s sad, but Beaumont ain’t what it used to be and it’s getting much worse. The schools are dangerously close to being like inner city schools. This isn’t the kids fault and I feel sorry for them because it’s the parents and former administrators that ruined everything. Maybe they can turn it around but it’s unlikely. A drop to 5a might help but people of all types are leaving BISD and I think that’s what left won’t win many games.

he didn't fit the profile.......

Coach Hickman isn't being given a fair shake by most of you. WOS has a rich tradition and the community seems to be against this man after 5 games. WOS will get 2nd in district. You can't win em all folks. People show their true character when things are bad. Good luck the rest of the year.

Check the AG barn. Over there with the pigs and sheep.

So, Beaumont with a population of 115K with one high school. I submit as evidence Alief and Plano as ISDs with huge schools and no success in football. When the UIL works their majic in '24, the 6A cutoff number will rise, which should drop WB and BU to 5A D1. All the growth is west of the Trinity river

I had expected it to take longer to plunge the program into mediocrity, but maybe it is a fitting tribute. Hopefully people will finally realize just how singularly important Coach Thompson was to the program and the real ramifications of his absence.

It could be superintendent purpose to destroy the tradition in football. Blame on the superintendent and the board to make a decision for what happened to kids. I agreed most of what true hard die Mustangs say about defense changing. When I watched and it really sick in my stomach. They will not success to play deep in the playoffs if they keep that way. I really feel bad for kids because of wrong direction from coaches.