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This is so so wrong of the West Orange community. Did we want Toby? I was the first person on this thread to suggest it. Yes, I think that was the majority’s pick but to show up and act a fool and disrespect Coach Hickman in front of his family is ridiculous. We can and should be better.

According to smitty, Wade Phillips shouldn’t be considered for the job. Never won a superbowl as a head coach.

Over/Under on how many Png threads get started from now until they make a hire: 12.

I was told by a few coaches from the area that don't be surprised when the list comes out on how few applied.

Peevy would be a fool if he applied. I don't think he's a fool.

Why would a guy leave where they just gave him everything he wanted (& won) for a place that just pushed out the winningest coach in school history?

No one has ever done what Surratt has ever done, so I wouldn’t expect Faircloth to. Danaher won more games than anyone ever in Texas ever has, so pretty sure he knows how to coach. Talk about next level…. Outside of winning a state title (which is extremely difficult) Danaher had Calallen at the pinnacle for 40 years. Danaher had Calallen in around 10 semifinals and 2 state title games. Every time losing to a team with much much more talent than he had. And they came close to winning several of them, because of him, not in spite of his coaching. Your expectations of a state championship are no where close to reality. Not even close. Ask anyone who has ever coached, and better yet, that has won one.

Yeah I always forget he changed his name… but he did want him fired, he didn’t want the school bond passed, and I’m sure if Nederland don’t win state this year(which I know we won’t, i am realist) he will be wanting Barrow fired

All coaches talk to one another or thru one another. I reckon most got told WOS already had their guy.

I did last night as well. Although I have many years experience playing Tecmo Bowl, I have decided I cannot handle the political aspects of the job. My Masters in TB was accredited if anyone is wondering!!

After further research I've withdrawn my name from consideration. Respect My Decision 😁💪🏿

The search committee was a farce. It was pointless. Only done for the sake of appearances. My wife knows someone who is very very very close to one of the committee members. Close as you can be without being the actual member. Wife was told 2 weeks ago this. Said any name that was brought up no matter who it was was shot down. The superintendent had only one name to ever recommend and that was Hickman. Superintendent thy will be done.

Ain’t nobody losing at WOS!!! Congrats Coach Hickman in a few years you’ll have a State Championship or 2.

Man, I feel for Coach Hickman.

They posted the AD/HFC job pretty quick like it was already typed up…

He did want him fired remember??😂 I'm surprised he isn't trying to run off Barrow. Don't forget Reagan is Smitty, he just changed his screen name.

I have a friend who has a cousin that overheard his brother-in-law’s sister - who works for the school say that she heard of an email that is circulating that the unofficial word is that the decision has been made. I’m betting that’s the truth because my friend wouldn’t lie to me.

With missing players with injuries and COVID not only does it effect your numbers, you can’t get a rotation flow. Messes up the chemistry. Not knowing who is available to play has to be a nightmare. Kids having to accept different roles…..

Reagan, I appreciate your respect of Coach Ethridge. You will not find a bigger fan of Coach Ethridge than me. That said, let's not overlook the facts that Coach Ethridge surrounded himself with talented assistant coaches, e.g., Butch Troy, Paul Carswell, Ken Clearman, Greg Davis, Bruce Bush, Terry Cobb, Jerry Hooper, and several others, and Coach Ethridge had some talent on the 1974-1977 teams. He had D-1 talent. In the seventies, Port Neches and Groves were growing. Refineries employed thousands, not hundreds, but thousands. Families moved to Port Neches and Groves. Some of those families had talented kids. There are not too many kids at PN-G today like Richy Ethridge (Texas Tech), Randy Ethridge, Ted Brack (TCU), Kyle Aguillard (Tennessee), Matt Burnett (Lamar), Robert DeRutte (LSU), Justin Eicher (Lamar), James Shipley, Von Robinson, and several others. LBs like Ted Brack, 6'2" or 6'3" and 215 lbs. that could run from sideline to sideline and violently end plays do not come through PN-G all that often. Neither do RBs like Justin Eicher...6'2" 200 - 210 lbs. He could run over your and away from you. Those teams from the seventies are long gone. Times have changed. Enrollments and districts have changed. SETX has changed. The game of football has changed. Coach Ethridge is the greatest chief to ever lead our Tribe. He's on the Mount Rushmore of PN-G greats, but he had talent on the sidelines and in the huddle when he made those championship runs. His son, Richy, was a MLB playing QB. Tough and savvy. He could read defenses at the line of scrimmage and get PN-G out of bad plays and into good plays because he was the coach's son. That doesn't happen all that often where you combine great coaching with great athletes, and your son directs the team and knows how to run your system. Just my 0.02 cents. RIP Coach Ethridge. I get it, Reagan, you have high standards. But, build in some leeway. Great coaches come in different packages. Peace.

Lol, "a couple rounds in the playoffs and then going home"? Dude took Calallen to the semis 12 times in 37 years after taking HF to the semis twice in six years, meaning every three years he's playing for a shot at the dance. That's a hell of a bar. There's not many guys who've ever graced a sideline in Texas that could go to a school in the barrio and win 400+ games in the southern half of Texas with Galena Park's roster. You're saying the superintendent should've gone to him and said, "Look, I know you've been here 10 years, made nine straight playoff appearances, had seven 10+ win seasons, have three undefeated regular seasons, four district titles and have been to the semis two times(first in school history) but we're going to go a different route because you're not winning titles"? Let it go dude, Buchannan, Dodge and Surratt aren't the only great coaches in the state. Imagine making a straight faced argument that this guy isn't one of the GOATs: PHIL DANAHER Overall Record: 490-118-4 Calallen record: 422-81-2 Record in district play: 263-43-2 Playoff record: 93-41 District championship (includes co and outright): 28 Undefeated regular seasons: 12 Undefeated district seasons: 23 Seasons with 10 or more wins: 32 37 straight seasons in the playoffs (Longest active streak in Texas and second longest streak in Texas history) Source: Steven Floyd, Calallen historian(CC Caller Times)

So this is the guy acting presidential? [Hidden Content]

Urgency should be in the mind set tonight at BU gym. It's time to take it off cruise control and go all gas and no brakes. The buzz/rumor is the Cougars got a 6'8" Transfer that may or may not be eligible to play tonight. UIL rule is 14 days which is great. LoL in BISD if you transfer from one the high schools to another no matter the reason your're Punished one year of eligibility. BISD rule. Never been challenged in any court which it should. One would think UIL rule supersedes school district rules. Enough said on that issue. Some can and some cant. All the talent here is home grown. Just my opinion the only obstacle preventing United from repeating is #0 K.Henry. Thus far that roll he played hasnt been matched. United has only 2 seniors this season one that starts and the other is a back up. That strong vocal bring it style every game leadership is missed. Two heavy weights tonight lace them up and let it do what it do. jmo...

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Actually, more than you would think. But, mostly at smaller schools.

Toby record is deceiving. First 2 years at Shoemaker: 2-18 before they finally got going in 2019.

This is an insult to Scott Surratt to think he couldn't do at PNG what he did at Carthage. The fact of the matter, if you haven't noticed, he went to Carthage and did exactly what you said he can't do at PNG. He had a "comparable" classification he had to deal with. For 84 years and 20 coaches, Carthage NEVER won a State Championship. Surratt comes in and after 1 year, he wins 3 in a row. I'll ask again -- after 84 years, did the talent just show up when he got there??!! Not even you can believe that! There's no doubt in my mind that Surratt would bring a State Title to PNG sooner rather than later!

There's no more money in Carthage than there is in PNG. I would say PNG is actually more well-to-do than Carthage. The difference is the Carthage community/administration chooses to pay Surratt much. So you're right, they could if they "wanted" to. The supervisor running the garage at the local refinery shouldn't be making more than the guy running your school's athletic program IMO. I think it's more of a "We used to pay this guy X amount and win, we don't need those high priced mercenaries" type situation.

Does your co co clock say Toby Toby Toby......

Yes! Some coaches here are credited with wins because of "their coaching" when they have the talent, but if they struggle THEN its about the kids. Funny how that works.

Congratulations coach Hickman!!!!

WOW -- somebody who gets it. That has always been my question as to why he had all these wins but no State Championships. As you say, probably the competition level of the district! Excellent thought!

The Sulphur Springs fans are going to be really excited to watch their team under Faircloths style of play. Good for them

the. board. had. nothing. to. do. with. it.

[Hidden Content] From the link... The vote was 4-2 with Gina Yeaman, Ruth Hancock, Linda Platt-Bryant, and Demetrius Hunter voting For Hickman. Tricia Stroud and Tommy Wilson voted Against. Board member Roderick Robertson did not attend. Thanks for the coverage last night @AshlyKBMT. Always keep it classy. The list of applicants is pointless now. According to the hiring process we just witnessed, a new Assistant principal should be promoted from within. Gotta keep those interview expenses to a minimum. Dyer has said he's retiring in May. Here's all the ???'s we have about the upcoming coaching staff... Head Coach: Hiawatha Hickman Assistant Coaches: ??? (Defensive Coordinator) ??? (Offensive Coordinator) ??? (Defensive Line) ??? (Defensive Ends) ??? (Wide Receivers) ??? (Running backs) ??? (Wide Receivers) ??? (Quarterbacks)

LCM people don’t know. Lol

My money is on Peevey at LCM

Grandpa Joe gets cranky when he doesn’t get his nap and pudding. Sure hope they gave him some phony nuclear codes. 😂

I think maybe Biden was correct this time. The Fox reporter was completely wrong in the situation. Peter Doocy did not pick up the instructions going into the news conference and messed up and went off script. He asked Biden a real question. Totally unacceptable!!!

He thought heading to the casino was more important than this board meeting….

I heard Neumann is coming out of retirement to takeover the program. Anyone else hearing the same?

I will be shocked if Omicron doesn't have an impact. I wouldn't be surprised if the virus is a determining factor in some cases. Predictions are simply impossible in this climate. For instance.... Silsbee has a two game lead on it's way to the district championship. If the whole team got Omicron this Wednesday, after Tuesday's game at Orangefield, there's a very good chance that it would have no impact on their standing at all because they are off Friday. They'd have time to quarantine, they'd have their natural immunity (which appears to be the only thing that has much value) and they would be good to go. On the other hand if the Tigers don't get it now and make it through the first couple of rounds, which they should, and then key players come down with it their season is over. On the third hand if the Tigers aren't affected by Omicron at all and Faith Family's kids get it during the playoffs then Silsbee's chances of another state championship increase dramatically. It's an uncertain world for sure.

Going on 1 hour and 25 minutes in closed session. I think this doesn't bode well for Coach Hickman and the supt.

I think he must play a bunch of Madden. It’s so easy to win a super bowl playing the Rookie level…. Why can’t they do that at the high school level.

That’s exactly what I would expect.

What most don’t realize, that’s the real Biden. Most think he’s the kind, sweet old G’pa type, but he’s actually a mean, vindictive pos.

We'll see how the new coach works out at Cedar Park but right now as far as I'm concerned all we have to do in the D1 playoffs is get past Manvel to make another run to the dance. Over the next two years we'll definitely have the personnel to do it too.

I was thinking me and ole @Stattrax could get em right. 😁😉

One thing about it, if Art Briles is hired -- this would be about as close to a chance of a State Championship as one is going to get. Again -- there are no guarantees. But, within 7 years, I'd put it the 90% range. What in his pass would make one think otherwise?!

Yea you could also get Todd Dodge too, living in fairytales.

Would TDS be classified as a comorbidity? Asking for friend. His initials are Cardinalbacker. 😁