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I think you don’t know what executing is. But as to why he was shot, I know that one officer yelled “gun!”, and within a second or two of that another officer disarmed him, during which the gun went off. I believe the officer who fired the shots either saw the pistol taken and in the struggle mistakenly thought that the victim had pulled it from the holster, or didn’t see the gun but heard “gun” and then almost immediately heard the shot and thought the victim was pulling the trigger. I don’t think the victim “deserved” to be shot, and I don’t think it should’ve happened under these circumstances, but I do think there’s going to be a pretty strong argument for ruling the shooting as justified. It’s not really any different than a lot of the cases we see where some kid who’s afraid of the cops runs when he’s pulled over for speeding or fights the cops because they’re busting him on a misdemeanor marijuana charge. The situation escalates needlessly and all of a sudden something that shouldn’t have been a big deal at all puts a cop in a situation where they have to make a split-second decision based on the information they have and their reasonable belief that they’re in danger. Oftentimes when we can go back and look at it from a different angle (and in slow motion), the cop could’ve done something different. But they wouldn’t have had to make a split-second decision if the person they were dealing with didn’t put them in the situation to begin with. Sometimes cops get it wrong, and sometimes it’s still justified. I think that may end up being the case here.

Everyone else must have better eyes than me, because from one angle it looks like one thing and from others it looks like something else. I’m not positive what happened. I think the officer was able to grab his gun? I also think the gun may have discharged when he grabbed it, meaning the officer who shot could’ve believed the victim fired a shot. Hopefully there’s some body cam footage to clear it up, because even in the “clear” videos there’s a lot going on and it’s hard to see exactly what’s happening. All that said, carrying a gun and then putting yourself in a situation where you may end up in a struggle with law enforcement is not a great idea. In the same way that putting yourself in a situation where trying to flee from law enforcement leads you to accelerate your vehicle towards an officer is not a great idea. I thought the goode shooting was obviously justified and the officer acted reasonably. I have a feeling this one is going to end up falling in the “lawful but awful” category.

1 polls are useless 2 of coarse a thorough investigation is needed 3 to blame this on the lack of ICE training in mob management rather than blaming the mob is unreasonable. 4 if you want better trained personnel to handle the mob, shouldn’t we bring in the military?

That is kind of what happened in the Amadou Diallo case. Detective, were going to speak to a person (Amadou Diallo) on the street who fit the description of a sexual assault suspect. They asked him for identification and he ran, running up a stairway and reached into his pocket and pulled out a black pistol while he was running. The closest officer yelled “Gun!” and there was a shot and the officer went down. The other officers returned fire killing Diallo. Except the black pistol was his wallet. The closest officer who yelled gun tripped and accidentally fired his gun. The officers behind him heard the officer yell gun, heard the gunshot and saw the officer go down. It all happened in a couple of seconds. They all were indicted for a second-degree murder and a jury found all of them not guilty, finding it was a reasonable belief under the circumstances.

With that said, there is another member here (making many many posts in support of the right) that is in the same situation as CB/Missing Band. That member would have to be gone if we kick this one to the curb.

I tend to agree. Being closely monitored. A post that this member made in the basketball forum kinda clued me in.

They are arresting people in Texas. The Texas government however is not refusing to notify the federal government of illegal aliens under arrest nor trying to hide them. The best way to deport people is to notify ICE when such a person is in custody. The person is already safely locked up and there is no need for a street confrontation.

West Brook players were wrong to even go over there in the first place, and I’m sure that’ll be handled. But no adult should ever be going back and forth with a kid. That’s a lack of emotional intelligence and maturity. Now social media is full of think pieces from grown people blaming refs, blaming coaches, blaming everything except the truth. Why are we so afraid to let our kids fail? This is exactly why this generation struggles — too many adults want to hold their hands and shield them from every stone thrown their way. Life is harder than a basketball game. Let’s teach them how to stand on two feet, hold their heads high, and handle defeat with character. That’s how you build young men, not by protecting them from every uncomfortable moment.

United can be playing the Spurs and @BMTSoulja1 would say, I know the Spurs have Wembanyama and De'Aaron Fox, but I think the Timberwolves win by 10. SMH...

[Hidden Content] From the article: A coordinated web of encrypted chats, street alerts and tracking of ICE "Abductors" in a sophisticated database reviewed by Fox News Digital shows that agitators were already mobilized at the scene where 37-year-old Alex Pretti was killed minutes before any shots were fired. ICE and Border Patrol agents were there to arrest an illegal immigrant criminal, and Pretti and others were there, outside a donut shop, to meet them as part of a strategic pattern of organized interference with law enforcement operations. Over the following hours, a national network of socialist, communist and Marxist-Leninist cells in the United States leveraged the tragic fatality into a nationwide protest operation. While grief and outrage over Pretti's death is genuine, the network's real-time rapid response, using short sensational video clips and emojis as weapons of propaganda, offers a window into the disciplined logistics, messaging and coordination of far-left warriors fomenting insurgency-like confrontation with authorities.

Deport all illegals. Report anyone suspected of being an illegal in your neighborhood or job to 1-866-DHS-2-ICE (1-866-347-2423), the official 24/7 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Tip Line - it is now active.

I mean I’m good with keeping both, Cardinalbacker was at least entertaining, but I understand you can’t bash the moderators with no consequences.

I’ve seen the video. Did he interfere with law enforcement, yes. Did he refuse to comply, yes. Was he armed, yes. Is this tragic, yes. Was he executed, no. Depends on the lens you’re looking through. [Hidden Content]

Pre-MAGA Republicans: “Don’t tread on me!” Post-MAGA Republicans, when masked federal agents keep executing American citizens in the heartland… “they got what they deserved!” It’s really sickening to see what Republicans stand for today.

Elon Musk has been warning the country of a financial death spiral for a couple years now if we don’t get it under control. I truly believe at least 40% of our debt is made up of fraud if not more.

The huge difference is this is what happened when Kyle and the police met,,,,,, He surrendered without incident......

I saw where someone compared Rittenhouse to this situation. Both brought loaded weapons to a protest. One side said it was wrong, the other applauded. I am not saying this is the same but there is some irony.

Maybe it has been covered, but I don’t feel like reading through all of these comments… The mantra from the left is that ICE agents are not real law-enforcement or police, which is false and that they are untrained. So here we have proof that ICE has too little training………. wait a minute, that wasn’t ICE. That was the Border Patrol that shof the guy in Minneapolis. Do we remember the CBP, the heroes who were so highly trained that it was them that stepped up and ended the Uvalde shooting. Again, maybe it has been covered but this wasn’t ICE

The Feds recovered 1100 separate chat groups in Signal with 400,000 unique messages on Stewart Rhodes phone after Jan. 6th. There is talk that inside officials in the Government may have coordinated with Petti on the harassment of ICE agents.....I think we are about to see the Trump administration take action on these ILLEGAL protestors.....

Well said.

100%

People expect cops to be perfect, while the criminals can act a fool, then play victim when it doesn’t go their way. You got some sick people who side against law and order, until they become a victim.

Video is out that shows the officer that retrieved the gun from the holster discharged the weapon firing it possibly accidentally. That shot may have caused officers to respond with deadly force.

What has that got to do with anything? He can’t be wrong, he’s an ICU nurse at the VA!! In truth that might be found to be part of his indoctrination. I am not suggesting that he is anything other than honorable. He could however be angry at the federal government by the way that treat veterans as seen by his work with the VA and carried that anti-government stance into attacking federal agents who he believes are part of the problem. I have arrested people from doctors to business owners, police officers, members of the clergy, etc. There aren’t any exempt professions.

I have personally warned this member via private message a couple times he was walking a fine line and it is being watched…… so, anything that happens will be on him.

Man, this rings of Cardinalbacker.🙂

Here’s the thing… ICE’s budget after the Big Beautiful Bill is larger than the United States Marine Corp’s. It’s larger than the FBI, DEA, and ATF combined. They’re a group of Trump loyalists, heavily armed, poorly trained, unvetted, hate the constitution and the rights afforded by it, and are willing to do whatever Trump tells them. And you guys are going to support it right up until that light bulb goes off in your head and you realize that you supported the creation of the SS 2.0.

I agree he may not have deserved to die but to say he was innocent and didnt play a role in his own demise is incorrect. Just like woman that rammed the officer. I’ll leave you to your biased soap box until more facts come out.

Each view can be subjective. Did he reach for his gun? Maybe. He wasn’t executed.

Whatever. Trump is just stupid

Jack Smith said so, enough said. lol

Legal murder. SS type 💩. Let’s just go full dictatorship. We don’t need Congress or a judiciary. Where one goes, you all go. Unbelievable.

Could not have said it better, I watched this game off and on last night. Then I watched it this morning in it's entirety. The team that played the best won last night. It's just that simple. The two teams are pretty evenly matched. It's all about who executes the best and who makes the better adjustments when they play each other. United will have another opportunity to avenge the loss. Play better the next time.

Yeh, I think most men would be extremely upset if somebody said something crazy to their wife. Im not sure vidor people realize how lucky they are to have such a solid coach. It wasn’t that long ago they were a perennial door mat.

It’s time for people to start mentioning Dallas Rosette as one of the top guards in the area !!!!!!!

They’re pushing vigilante justice.

Crazy fans should get called out for saying dumb stuff.... Coaches don't get to show up to other peoples jobs and make comments about their performance

Excellent win, Brook. Huge 3rd quarter. Seems like it became the Garrett show. That and WB played really good defense and seem to get all the 50-50 balls. That’s a recipe for a win. We need to work on our transition defense. I know it was like 15 points Brook scored on transition alone. BU will be fine. And that next game at BU will be must see.

Im so happy things are turning around for coach and the kids. Seems like their buying in and the results are showing.

Final 75-51 Silsbee

He trust politicians and bureaucrats more than the guy (Elon) that setup a rescue mission to get 2 astronauts from the international space center. Lol

If I recall you were not a fan of DOGE and the way they went through social security...... Now you want them back? LOL

Seemed like a scapegoat case all along. The Superintendent/Principal/Maintenance Supervisor of the school was more responsible by not fixing a door lock they’d been notified was faulty long in advance. I don’t remember if anyone in the ISD was ever held responsible or not.

LMAO... Dude stop!

His tough talk has always been a tactic, threaten for 100%, settle for 10%, which was the original target. Politicians aren’t supposed to operate like that, lol.

Potential to have a serious ice storm this weekend. I hear Ted Cruz has already left the state. 😀

First win for Onalaska in 20 year school history at Crockett.

I'd like to jump in and give my honest answer. The Biden DOJ had 4 years to expose or go after anyone in the documents (there are no "files", just a bunch of documents from different departments for over TWO DECADES) - so, for 2 decades this has been going on and no one has been charged...The Victims made civil deals with the Epstein estate, they say they have a list but won't release it....and btw, exposing a crime does not break a NDA......it's protected. So, they could release, but they have not.... So you can believe there is not enough evidence to bring up charges against anyone other than who has been charged....OR, you can believe it is a massive coverup and through 4 administrations, with approx. 10,000 attorneys in each administration through out the years covered it up or looked the other way..... When/if we get the redacted files, we won't have enough information to decide if anyone is guilty..... I say after 2 decades,,,,,it won't matter.

I’ve done my best to read the files for myself. I’m on page 176. Pretty boring with all the heretofore, whereas, and all that legal jargon. Still over 5,000,000 pages left.