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I think if you had true football capitalism it would not go the way you think it would go lol The process is imperfect because its based on human judgement which is imperfect and thats not taking into account the process where humans willfully aren't honest on the forms....BUT based on the rules today that opens the door for circumvention of the rules in place. If I were in charge I'd try to get rid of judgment as much as possible and make it black and white...no more transferring for athletic purposes questions on the form..its residency and residency alone...BUT I'd have more robust compliance arm of the UIL to check into residency questions and not leave that to the schools... The only question is..where do I come up with the money to pay the salaries of this compliance arm

Your stance on the subject shows just how much you choose to not acknowledge kids are moving into SOC every single year strictly for football and they are being recruited there by SOC coaches. You are making a fool of yourself. But please, carry on.

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I can agree with that last statement. I have stated that the coaches and local DEC's have to do better. The problem with DISD is they have become a "you watch my back and I'll watch yours" district.

I get out plenty and talk with many people in the coaching industry. I know exactly how wild the DFW area is with the transferring but my point is all these players were ruled eligible by all ruling committees. As for the complaining. My point was the vast majority of it comes from the team who loses to the team accused of cheating. Is it justified? To a point, yes. But knowing who some of you are on here that have posted or liked comments on this thread (including you) and what their school association is, my point has been proven. Like I stated before, policy needs improving.

I agree with everything bolded. As for the sour grapes, sometimes they're warranted. My team will never lose to SOC in a state final game, so while I have an opinion on the matter, it doesn't affect me the same way it's affected PNG. If I lived there I'm sure I'd be a lot more passionate about the subject. I'm also sure there have been plenty of sour grapes in Silsbee over the last decade when their basketball teams deserving of being state champions have lost out to houston teams or Faith Family because of a broken system. And i personally don't blame anyone from Silsbee a bit if they're still upset. As for SOC, there's a difference between having done no wrong and not having been caught doing wrong. Is it possible that every D1 player that transfers in is doing so on their own with no encouragement or interference from the coaching staff? I suppose it is. But that seems unlikely, and I'm not sure how anyone could be confident saying that it's happening that way.

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I agree. My decision of which Friday game to attend will be based on how things are going into that week. But right now I will go with these games for Week 7: Thursday Baytown Sterling at Beaumont West Brook Friday Port Arthur Memorial at La Porte (2nd choice is Orangefield at East Chambers) Saturday Incarnate Word at Lamar

Just spoke with an High Island school official. HI will be playing in TCAL for all their athletics. Doesn't mean that some of their athletic teams will not play UIL teams in non-district because they will play some of those schools. Just won't be participating in any districts in UIL athletics. High Island will have a varsity football team this coming season unlike last year. Will remain a 6 man football team.

In regards to Faith Family, I think that's a case of apples and oranges. Charter schools should never be allowed to play UIL or at least have to play 6A. There is a reason why Faith Family no longer plays UIL. As for the Houston teams, that can be viewed as the same as SOC. But like I said, the complaining still came from the losing team. Personally, I didn't have much issue with Silsbee losing to Yates or Washington (we did beat them more than they beat us). I did have issue with Faith Family. They never belonged in UIL.

It'll be before the season....just dont know when yet

Schedules are done.

What evidence of recruiting is out there that the UIL has? If someone has it I'm sure they'd be happy to take it and make an example of someone. If the kids that go there have clean PAPFs the UIL's not going to intervene unless there's evidence of recruiting...the only time I can recall a kid transferring to SOC and there actually being a hearing was the kid from Corsicana who signed with A&M and he was cleared....

I like that. And I love DesotOakinVille. LOL!!

I just need to know if Spuds is gonna pass to Logs and if Roadrunner will be rushing and Cleats will be kicking.

Houston with a 6-3 win over SF. Wesneski with another quality start. 7 IP, 3 runs, 5 hits (2 HR), 4 K's, 2 BB. Hader pitched two perfect innings to get the win. Cam Smith big night at the plate. 3-4, 2 runs, HR, 2 RBI's. Astros remain 1/2 game up on Arlington.

I think your side note reads tend to lead you astray.

Aren't the majority of these good people Muslim? You know, those folks that you condemn daily here on this site.

More proof that low IQ Donald got tricked (or blackmailed from Epstein files!) into fighting Israel’s war

Did a little digging since we always have this question come up. Here's the history between La Porte & Port Arthur. La Porte vs Port Arthur History This year’s District 9-5A D1 game will be the 34th all time meeting between La Porte and Port Arthur. La Porte first faced Port Arthur Jefferson in 1922. This rivalry dates back 104 years! This season will be the 34th game played between the two cities. Port Arthur Jefferson closed in the late 90's and Port Arthur Memorial became the school in Port Arthur in 2002. Here is the breakdown of the last 33 meetings! LP PA 1922 0 20 1978 49 12 1979 24 22 1980 14 41 1981 7 41 1982 21 33 1983 28 14 1984 7 6 1985 17 20 1986 14 17 1987 21 14 1988 17 12 1989 35 20 1990 35 35 Tie 1991 27 22 1992 49 27 1993 37 0 1996 38 6 1997 31 3 2006 56 27 2008 56 28 2009 42 21 2010 37 13 2011 24 20 2011 6 34 2012 37 33 2013 45 47 2014 41 35 2015 13 62 2020 17 45 2021 27 50 2022 34 54 2023 27 38 2026 ? ? Current head-to-head overall: LP 19, PA 13. Since the opening of Memorial, the series is tied 7-7. It's been a series of 5 game runs broken up by alternating wins by both teams between the runs. PAM was the last team to beat LP in a district game in either 9-5A D1, or 11-5A D1 with a comeback win in Port Arthur in 2023.

Americans still waiting on their tariff check but instead it’s been sent to the big corporations that gouged us to compensate for the tariffs that were implemented. DOGE disappeared like a fart in the wind. Still waiting for the concept of a health care plan that would do away with Obamacare. Of the 250 years of debt Trump has created 25% of it in 5 1/2 years and he still has 2 1/2 years to go. Average Americans are still waiting on affordability but the Iran war took precedence. Great job on the border though.

People on here do understand. But the vitriol and complaining was towards SOC when it should be directed at UIL and the local DEC.

That part... But people on here don't understand that.

From the report as stated from an AI search: The report points to: Local government education lost about 50,000 jobs, which economists say was likely influenced by seasonal-adjustment issues rather than a wave of layoffs. Retail lost about 19,000 jobs. Financial activities lost about 14,000 jobs. Meanwhile, healthcare, construction, manufacturing, and information added jobs

I’m team limited government capitalism. It’s the team that has created more ‘haves’ than any other system in the world, and many—if not most—of those who think they’re ’have-nots’ would be ‘haves’ in much of the rest of the world.

Fairly simple for the coaches who are “sick of it”: 1. Regulate it through their membership on the DEC. 2. Don’t sign off on transfers. **The reason they don’t follow these steps is because they have similar in their own programs. Every school in Texas receives players and loses players.

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5A/6A have larger numbers of athletes that don’t play spring sports, therefore they have the participation to conduct functional practices. You get to have 18 practices if you do spring ball and the sacrifice is starting a week later in the fall. Really helps set your rosters before you break for the summer. Allows you to conduct meaningful football skills during the summer as well.

With 7 offensive and 10 defensive starters returning along with 33 lettermen returning, I don't see them going 3-7 and winning just 1 district game this season. DCTF has them being one of the most improved teams for this season. I got them making playoffs.

Rules were broken yes. Punishment is warranted yes. I personally believe they should have been a harsher punishment. The head coach didn’t act alone and fit all the kids for shoulder pads and helmets. He didn’t run the practice by himself. All the coaches should have some type of punishment.

I think this subject can be viewed in many ways. But what I believe 89Falcon is trying to say is that these student athletes that are mentioned were all ruled eligible. The coaches that the player transferred from didn't check the box, the DEC the player is transferring to didn't rule ineligible (and that matters the most since it's comprised of schools that will be competing against said player(s) ), or these players sat out the necessary time before being allowed to play varsity sports. Like Matt stated, UIL will most times not step in on these type situations and will just about always rule the same as the DEC. Should policy change? I say it should. But until then as long as players are ruled eligible, the schools can carry on. Stating that schools recruit can be viewed as sour grapes. Not saying that's the case here but most of the complaining normally comes from the losing teams. In the case of SOC, all their players were ruled eligible so they have done no wrong.

i have mixed feelings on the topic at hand, but having read through this thread it's definitely worth noting that you're being a bit obtuse on this one (intentionally, no doubt, as you're no dummy). While it is inarguable that schools gain and lose students every year, it's also inarguable that there are a few schools who consistently gain new students who "coincidentally" happen to be D1 football recruits. It's obvious what happens at several of these schools, but in some it's provable through common sense. Let's take SOC, for example, which is a C-rated campus, and is located in South Oak Cliff, an F-tier community to live in. it's kind of hard to find a really valid reason why the recruits (i mean transfers) have moved from A or B rated school districts, generally MUCH safer neighborhoods, and areas with more job opportunities and housing other than football. As for your **, generally transfers who are transferring for non-football reasons aren't transferring to schools that have great football programs, and also aren't transferring to schools getting large numbers of obvious football related transfers. If shepherd gets a stray running back move-in here or there, or some kid from beaumont moves out to HF, etc, it's one thing. But something tells me if half of the D-1 recruits from around SETX started moving into HF every season and were allowed to play lots of folks would have lots to say about it, including the coaching staff of Shepherd (regardless of what their PAPFs say).

2 out of 3 vs the giants. Monday L 1-5 Tuesday W 5-4 Wednesday W 6-0 Weekend series vs the oriloes. Season record: 57-58

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That and the fact that Houston didn't score a run when the game was tied 3-3 in bottom of 7th and Astros had runners at 2nd and 3rd with no outs. Another good pitching game gone to waste.

Not sure where he thought you were complaining or whining. Just stating obvious facts and giving your thoughts on the season. I didn't see any whining.

This reminds me of Beto versus Cruz or Abbott...... IT will be the same result. Texas may turn blue, but it won't be this round

lol. Please don't start that convo again!

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If I attend any game, it's PA vs LP. New stadium, old rivalry

I plan on attending 5 Lamar games this season. Aug. 29 Abilene Christian, Oct. 10 UIW, Oct. 24 Houston Christian (homecoming), Nov. 7 SFA and Nov. 21 at McNeese. I have season tickets for Lamar home games. I will be attending at least 3 A&M games: Sept. 12 Arizona St., Sept. 19 Kentucky and Oct. 17 The Citadel (military weekend). This is a 3 game package I bought. I no longer have season tickets. I also have Colorado at Baylor on Sept. 26 on the schedule. Going to see Silsbee's Dra'lon Miller play against his old team.

Joaquin vs Shelbyville… Friday Night…. It’s hard to say at this moment. I would have to wait until the week of for final decision. I can make a case for almost all those games at this time. But things happen, and can change the course

As I stated, AI pulled this info from the report itself. It was not AI’s opinion. True, facts are a stubborn thing!

You've proved nothing except that you're hard headed. And we aren't the only team to get the shaft because of teams like them. and they aren't the only ones doing it. All of the teams who have that special talent that comes along once in a blue moon will have to settle for 2nd or 3rd because people like you just turn the other cheek. Oh well, they just didn't check the box. Cool. Enjoy watching the same Dallas teams win every year. That's what it's all about right? As long as the Dallas teams win every year it's all good. What a sad, weak argument you guys have. Football socialism is what we should call it.

Your naïvety is why your party is being swallowed up. Denial is easily conquered.

The poster already laid out numerous ones and you chose to ignore that post.

Why does the UIL ignore SOC recruiting? No one moves to SOC for academics.

I was wondering if you heard something I hadn't. Ha. Yes two middle linebackers will be replaced but there is experience there. DL will be better than last year. Same for the secondary. OLB's will be returning. Mason West is the younger QB and has a very good arm. He is a gamer. Ashworth brings a different dynamic with his athleticism and running ability. I am not sure we will beat PAM, but we do have a good season ahead of us. PAM posters......Sorry for hijacking y'alls thread.

Why? Its their prerogative. If their ISD is sound, they are financially secure and their academics are good, there is no pressing need to merge with anyone else for the sake of sports. Its has a very solid B rating (86). Some outside opinions may think otherwise, but its a decision left solely up to their community. If its a successful ISD, they know what's best for them.