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1) its about keeping your word, if someone asks you to do something and you agree...be a man of your word...a great man once said "A man's gotta have a code" 2) We are dealing with HS kids, my code is allow the adult who works with these kids to tell the kids himself the news...the kids deserve to hear it from the adults who made the decision. 3) It's about building relationships, in this case I could have easily broken the news last week, but I'd burn a Coach...and coaches talk..."Can't trust Stepp, he doesnt keep his word" then I won't break anything....take the L here to break ten more stories later..chess not checkers

For me personally, because I was asked to keep quiet by the two parties involved. It's about keeping good relationships. I learned of the hire last week. Was asked to not release the news until Coach Foreman could inform his players. I don't think that's too much to ask. I have always tried to do what the coach has asked in those type situations. Can't speak for other media entities. If you notice, KJAS has no direct quotes from either party. Meaning they hadn't spoken with Coach Foreman or Jasper supt.

look, i voted for him, would vote for him again over Kamala or Biden. but expecting folks to "not dwell on the negative" is not reasonable when the president is constantly doing and saying negative things. And people can be for making the country great again and still not think that trump is doing it. I like some of the stuff he does, hate some of the stuff he does. I hate how he makes the country look when he talks. I think his ego plays a bigger role in his decisions than any desire to make america great again. I fully don't understand people who can't criticize the man or who constantly downplay everything he does that rightfully upsets people.

He’s very very good at getting kids recruited and to the next level. He connects well with the athletes and a very hard working like able guy.

I don't know if you could consider the facilities great. Baseball and softball? Yes. Football? Good but not necessarily great. Certainly no indoor practice facility. The weight room isn't state of the art and there are way better gyms in our area. I would consider the facilities as a whole as good to very good. Not great. Shoemaker had better facilities. Best thing going for Coach Foreman is he will be in 4A D2 and not 6A. Also, back home (SETX) where he has always wanted to be. I really believe he will do quite well at Jasper. Much better than Crumedy.

and with that, you are history.

I guess except for KJAS. lol Congrats to Toby Foreman.

To answer the question as far as this website goes as to why the baseball coverage isn't as much as football and basketball, there are two specific reasons, One, our beloved admin Todd Broussard (WOSGrad) is no longer with us. Todd was the man that took care of pretty much everything here at SETXsports. He was the one who posted schedules, game threads, scores and standings for our coverage area teams in all our sports. It was a big loss for us when he passed away in August of 2021. Since then, we have never been able to completely fill his shoes. He was such a special person and we miss him dearly. Second, in the summer of 2022, I decided to retire (in hindsight, semi-retire) from the site. I had told my wife that when she retired as a school teacher, that I would retire with her so that we could spend more time at the beach together. I would no longer do any broadcasting and would take a step back from my admin duties. I told the owner (Jordan Wilson) that he would need to get some other mods to handle those duties. Jordan asked me to stay on for a little while until he could get others to take over. So I did. We had Bigdog and WOSdrummer99 take over the football forum as far as schedules, pickems, scores and standings. They have been a big help in that forum. Jordan went with a bot system to create game threads and the scoreboard thread. I helped when needed. Football forum is in good hands. As for basketball, several of the area basketball coaches were concerned that the basketball forum would die off without me tending to it. So they asked me to stay on and take care of that forum. I talked to Jordan about it and we agreed that I would handle that forum on my own with the understanding that after basketball season was over, I would not handle anything else until football season. I put a lot of love and effort in that forum and many folks have expressed their appreciation. But, those days are numbered as well. I honestly don't know how much longer I'll continue to take care of that forum. One, maybe two more years. We will see. As for the baseball forum, KF89 has done the best that he can with posting schedules and scores. I know how tough it is to try and do it all by oneself. It's really beneficial to have others invested in posting info in the forum. I was hoping other mods or members would help in that regard. A lot of truth has been stated in regards to the popularity of the three sports, particularly on this website. Football is definitely king and always will be. Basketball has always had more traffic on the site than baseball. I admit that part of that is how we (I) cover basketball much more than baseball. But even so, the basketball forum has 100,000 more posts in that forum than the baseball forum. It is what it is. KF89 is doing what he can but until we get others to commit to help out, the baseball forum will lack. Don't ask me, I am about to start my 4 1/2 month vacation from here. lol

I've truly never had a more aggravating conversation in all of sports than this.. because of your ridiculous mentality on the subject. Hey genius... not me or anyone else is saying that Surratt isn't the best high school football coach to have ever done it. Nor is anyone saying that ANY coach could win if they had the right athletes. Nor is anyone saying that athletes started showing up when he got there. What is actually wrong with you to think that's the argument? How are you not understanding that it takes a combination of coaching AND talent? Not every school has talent... not the talent it takes to win a title. NO TALENT AT ALL. You said, "What in his head coaching history would make you think he couldn't?" That's easy.. it's nothing to do with him, personally. It's the literal countless examples of other coaches that are elite according to your own definition... that never sniffed another championship after reaching your level of elite. Even if you only use high school football examples.. which is stupid.. but whatever. Do you honestly think that Tom Westerburg is the only example? He's being used as the example over and over again just because it was a recent situation. Reaching elite status while at Allen, and then never even getting close to Cowboy Stadium again after leaving. That alone should be all the proof you need that not every coach can win a state championship at any school. But.. I'll give you this. Your heels are dug in to your opinion on this.

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Trump has been played by Putin. Iran has destroyed military bases because of intel from Russia and Japan. Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel. The is a Epstein war.

Comments like this is what wears your welcome out. You and PDF have to walk a finer line. You don't have the luxury of skating by.

Right. But so many already knew that I am not surprised it was announced before the school board meeting tomorrow night. I do agree. Toby has his work cut out for him but I think he's up for the task. I was told he will take a pay cut but will be allowed to bring in some coaches of his choice. It's my understanding this is the 3rd time he has applied for the Jasper job. Third times the charm.

quite frankly, the effort and time put in is lost on all but a handful of members. I made a pretty serious effort in the soccer forum several years back due to my soccer background, and the threads would get 1 or 2 responses from the same small handful of members. At some point the reward isn't worth the effort. I would love to see more posters take the initiative and post game threads and results for their schools.

Barry Leuman

You are insulting my intelligence (and severely underestimating the powers of an admin and what I am privy to). You are not fooling anyone here, CB. You actually make it pretty obvious. (particularly the occasional shots made at Silsbee). You making a post in the basketball forum is evidence enough. Only CB would call himself genius and come up with the new username of TheMissingBand. But I digress.

My father taught me that kindness and graciousness won over anger and bitterness. My father was a pillar of our community. UT alum can attest to that. He was no push over either. Was Chief Umpire at Silsbee Little League for many many years. So he dealt with many a sour folk from time to time. I am certainly not trying to compare the two positions but just my way of saying we have a choice in our behaviors.

I stand by that a POTUS should not be making these kind of comments. Should be held to a higher standard. Us every day Joes, not so much. I want my President to show a little class in these type situations. Just completely unnecessary to make those comments.

Spare me the fake outrage

it's nothing to do with Surratt and everything to do with Warren. In the 30 years before Surratt took over Carthage had 23 winning seasons, three .500 seasons and four losing seasons. They made it to at least the second round of the playoffs 13 times in those 30 years and even played for a state championship. It feels like you're under the illusion that Surratt took over a bad football program and turned them almost instantly into a winner. That couldn't be further from the truth. He took over a pretty good program with some really good talent and turned them into a great program that attracted even better talent. Now they're an elite program that attracts elite talent (which he certainly deserves credit for). On the flipside of that, Warren opened 75 years ago and has 4 playoff appearances in those 75 years. They had 1 playoff "win" in 1958 where they tied and advanced on penetrations. In the last 50 years they have 8 winning seasons, but only made the playoffs twice because they get most of their wins by finding even worse teams to schedule before district. Would Warren improve dramatically if Surratt came to town? Obviously. But they aren't winning district in 7 years, much less a state championship.

15-1 in my big money brackets.

I'm no expert in Warren , but there are factors at Warren that currently would prevent Surratt from winning a state title in 7 years. Now if He could have well paid assistant coaches in abundance, lavish facilities , unlimited funding, full Admin support, on everything he does, yes he might have a shot in 7 years. But those are big asks. In my opinion ,he is an Elite coach for sure, but being an Elite coach does not guarantee a State championship in 7 years. I think there are several Elite coaches around the state that never win a title or even play for one.

Bryan Whitmire is top notch! He took a team with a first round playoff exit last year all the way to the State Championship Game this year. On top of that he is a great Christian Man that all of our boys can look up to. Excellent mentor and basketball coach that really cares about the kids and it shows. You couldn't ask for a better coach and family to be part of your community.

0-10 Football team, 1-24 Girls Basketball, 5-15 Baseball, 7-15 Softball… Maybe not “great” compared to previous basketball seasons but in the vacuum of 25-26, yeah they had a great season.

Wasn't great, at all going 19-14 and 5-7 in district. Made the playoffs six years in a row before this, won a playoff game in four of those six years before this so it's been a while since we were on the "struggle bus" We are far from an elite program in basketball and have a long way to go, no question about that. But, been a long time since we boarded the "struggle bus"

Fairly sure Locks is going to try and get the Shoemaker job...if he doesnt get it I bet he comes

Kind of like the Gateway Pundit. Both are propaganda sites.

Baseball on this site has little to no activity as stated. It could be partly due to the state of baseball below the collegiate level is infurating with parent's views of the ability of their children which is quite distorted. However, if you follow viewership trends for MLB, it is up quite a bit over the past decade and youth participation has recently rebounded quite a bit. The NBA has taken a massive hit in viewership though. The NFL is well the NFL and college football remains strong. I don’t state the above as a stitch head (I am one). Each summer i teach a sports sociology class and we discuss viewership and attendance patterns as part of a sports sociology class. The numbers actually surprised me as I don't care for pumpkin bouncing but was very surprised by the decline. BULLETS, I refuse to discuss kickball as I am an 'Merican! Take your communism elsewhere. I recently learned who bullets13 is folks, I am just giving him a hard time. A quick internet search reveals the number quite easily.

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I agree if it is true.

True. But, you do know the IRGC is still in control of the populace and weapons. You also know someone is still executing the people. I said when this started I had faith in our military and planners. I did not have faith in the conclusion, or this Administration’s plans for after the kinetic action. I stand by that still. I will be hopeful. But, not optimistic.

So if Scott Rich wasn't the right guy who was the right guy?

I get it. Don't have to miss him. Not asking him to. But can also not say a single word. Pretty easy to do if you ask me. I also agree with you about all our leaders. But he is the ultimate leader so lead by example is what I say. Politics is so ugly these days. Case in point this forum. I hate that it is this way.

I don't think stomping on a man's grave is necessary to win anything.

Pretty certain that everyone has said that SS is the greatest high school coach in Texas history. Still doesn't mean that he did not have some things go his way with a confluence of factors.

I am not going to say that was wise on Trumps part to post that but considering the Mueller Investigation/Russia Hoax tried to destroy Trump, his family and anyone associated with Trump it doesn’t surprise me. The sad part about this is that it has been proven that the Russia Hoax was nothing more than manufactured bs to destroy Trump. It involved Obama,Hillary,Brennan, Clapper and many more and no one had been held accountable. The fact that this group of people tried to take down an incoming and sitting president and not anyone here on this forum from the left is outraged by that is mind boggling. So please spare us the sermon.

I think he'd pull some, but Kountze isn't known for much football talent, and Woodville has been successful enough on it's own to keep a lot of the players. Fred and Spurger aren't spitting out football players. Carthage is within 30 minutes of Tatum, Beckville, Joaquin, Marshall, Tenaha, Timpson, Center, and Mt. Enterprise. Oh, and 40 minutes from Longview and Kilgore. And without a doubt they're pulling talent from most if not all of those towns. We're talking about a talent-rich environment. Lots of state championship wins and appearances between those towns in the last 20 years.

Surratt winning a state title at Warren over the next 7 years? No offense to Warren… but no it’s not happening

BC HC Josh Smally fits this. But I dont consider him in the top 1% yet. @Reagan's 3% was generous. Doesn't mean he's not a great coach. Just not Elite. Still some years left to make the jump. If they continue the recent success it will snowball into more and more. Look for them to compete with WOS very well next season

Well i truly believe, the word elite can be used in several ways. Elite coaching can be a coach that takes average kids at an average program and has them buy in and over achieves with them. This will require the coach to adjust his coaching styles almost every year based on the talent that he has from yr to yr. I also believe elite can be defined as a coach that has a program that is winning several games each year in the playoffs and making deep runs, and can keep that program on top year in and year out. I believe it is easier to win at those programs because you do have kids coming into the program that typically wouldnt be there if the program wasnt as successful.

This may have been discussed before, but Kyle Westerberg won 4 state championships in 12 years at Allen and led them to another final. 3 of those were with Kyler Murray. After winning four state championships at the highest level and amassing a 134-16 record over 12 years at Allen, Westerberg moved (to an easier division, and an easier district). Hard to argue those numbers. He's clearly in the elite category. So what changed when he went to Barber's Hill? He still had good facilities, still had a supportive community, had players from good families with lots of opportunities, and I doubt he forgot how to coach. At Barbers hill he went 40-17 in 5 seasons and made the 3rd round of the playoffs once. The program still improved under him, but they didn't sniff a state championship. Then he went to Salado and went 5-15 in two years. Did he turn from elite to only good when he went from Allen to Barbers Hill, and then from good to bad when he went to Salado? The thing is, he didn't have the players to win a championship at Barbers Hill, and didn't have the players to even have a winning record at Salado. But you know who could've won a championship (or two or three) at Barbers Hill? The 2012-2014 Allen Eagles, led by Kyler Murray. It wouldn't even take the whole team. Probably only 5 kids from each side of the ball combined with whoever BH had at the time would be enough. And they wouldn't need Westerberg coaching them to get it done. Any competent coach would do.

There are over 1500 High school football teams, and only 12 champions a year. If a rule was made tomorrow that no coach and school can win more than one title it would take 125 years before every current Texas high school head football coach would win a championship. Of course that's not the case, and programs like Carthage are going to suck up extras. The ideas that A) a coach MUST win a state championship to be elite and B ) an elite coach should be able to do it in 7 years are both silly.

One of my favorites: "The flu gets a Chuck Norris shot every year."

I asked Reagan the other day to post just a single instance in which he felt like Trump had made a mistake. For once he was silent. Not a single time has Trump been mistaken, lol.

SURGES PAST $39T!! Wow! But let’s do a quick Google/AI search. National Debt by year: 2020, the last full year Trump was in office. ND increased by $1.49T 2021 or Biden’s first year in office increases $2.45T in a single year or almost double Trump’s last year in office. 2022 it increased $2.24T. 2023 it increased $2.33T 2024 it increased $2T Now in the first year of Trump’s second term the ND increased $2,35T. So which year was this dramatic surge again? I think they all need to be reigned in but pointing out Trump seems disingenuous at best.

Glad I am subsidizing my income with poker and sports gambling.

A million great coaches in the area, and I think everyone is really good and most guys are good friends so I admit my biases. But if this was like the stock market and I am betting on guys futures (limiting to this to guys who haven't been HC's for long). Give me Keithan Hancock (HJ) and KJ Johnson (HF) over the next 15 or 20 years, those guys check every single box.

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