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I think you don’t know what executing is. But as to why he was shot, I know that one officer yelled “gun!”, and within a second or two of that another officer disarmed him, during which the gun went off. I believe the officer who fired the shots either saw the pistol taken and in the struggle mistakenly thought that the victim had pulled it from the holster, or didn’t see the gun but heard “gun” and then almost immediately heard the shot and thought the victim was pulling the trigger. I don’t think the victim “deserved” to be shot, and I don’t think it should’ve happened under these circumstances, but I do think there’s going to be a pretty strong argument for ruling the shooting as justified. It’s not really any different than a lot of the cases we see where some kid who’s afraid of the cops runs when he’s pulled over for speeding or fights the cops because they’re busting him on a misdemeanor marijuana charge. The situation escalates needlessly and all of a sudden something that shouldn’t have been a big deal at all puts a cop in a situation where they have to make a split-second decision based on the information they have and their reasonable belief that they’re in danger. Oftentimes when we can go back and look at it from a different angle (and in slow motion), the cop could’ve done something different. But they wouldn’t have had to make a split-second decision if the person they were dealing with didn’t put them in the situation to begin with. Sometimes cops get it wrong, and sometimes it’s still justified. I think that may end up being the case here.5 points
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ANOTHER ICE SHOOTING IN Minneapolis
thetragichippy and 4 others reacted to bullets13 for a topic
Everyone else must have better eyes than me, because from one angle it looks like one thing and from others it looks like something else. I’m not positive what happened. I think the officer was able to grab his gun? I also think the gun may have discharged when he grabbed it, meaning the officer who shot could’ve believed the victim fired a shot. Hopefully there’s some body cam footage to clear it up, because even in the “clear” videos there’s a lot going on and it’s hard to see exactly what’s happening. All that said, carrying a gun and then putting yourself in a situation where you may end up in a struggle with law enforcement is not a great idea. In the same way that putting yourself in a situation where trying to flee from law enforcement leads you to accelerate your vehicle towards an officer is not a great idea. I thought the goode shooting was obviously justified and the officer acted reasonably. I have a feeling this one is going to end up falling in the “lawful but awful” category.5 points -
UIL Realignment Live Broadcast Mon Feb 2 8:45am
AshlyHasBeen and 3 others reacted to Matthew328 for a topic
The Dave Campbell's crew will be live at the Birdville Fine Arts Complex for the UIL Realignment announcemnet on Monday Feb 2, we''ll go on the air at 845am. Greg Tepper will host and I'll be on for analysis. We'll have a few DFW area coaches on along with an interview with the UIL. The broadcast is free across all Dave Campbell's platforms, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, TexanLive, etc.4 points -
ANOTHER ICE SHOOTING IN Minneapolis
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I don't think any officer(LEO) (especially this 8 year veteran) wakes up hoping they kill someone. They just want to do their shift and go home to their family every night.....I don't blame them for doing what they think is necessary to not die. I carry most of the time, my biggest fear is having to pull my weapon and use it. Not only the thought I killed someone, someone's parent or child, I'll have to live with that but it could bankrupt me in court, even if proven justified. For me, I hope my Son or anyone I care for wouldn't act so stupidly interfering with LEO's trying to do an already hard job.4 points -
1 polls are useless 2 of coarse a thorough investigation is needed 3 to blame this on the lack of ICE training in mob management rather than blaming the mob is unreasonable. 4 if you want better trained personnel to handle the mob, shouldn’t we bring in the military?4 points
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thetragichippy and 3 others reacted to tvc184 for a topic
That is kind of what happened in the Amadou Diallo case. Detective, were going to speak to a person (Amadou Diallo) on the street who fit the description of a sexual assault suspect. They asked him for identification and he ran, running up a stairway and reached into his pocket and pulled out a black pistol while he was running. The closest officer yelled “Gun!” and there was a shot and the officer went down. The other officers returned fire killing Diallo. Except the black pistol was his wallet. The closest officer who yelled gun tripped and accidentally fired his gun. The officers behind him heard the officer yell gun, heard the gunshot and saw the officer go down. It all happened in a couple of seconds. They all were indicted for a second-degree murder and a jury found all of them not guilty, finding it was a reasonable belief under the circumstances.4 points -
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With that said, there is another member here (making many many posts in support of the right) that is in the same situation as CB/Missing Band. That member would have to be gone if we kick this one to the curb.4 points -
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I tend to agree. Being closely monitored. A post that this member made in the basketball forum kinda clued me in.4 points -
They are arresting people in Texas. The Texas government however is not refusing to notify the federal government of illegal aliens under arrest nor trying to hide them. The best way to deport people is to notify ICE when such a person is in custody. The person is already safely locked up and there is no need for a street confrontation.4 points
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West Brook players were wrong to even go over there in the first place, and I’m sure that’ll be handled. But no adult should ever be going back and forth with a kid. That’s a lack of emotional intelligence and maturity. Now social media is full of think pieces from grown people blaming refs, blaming coaches, blaming everything except the truth. Why are we so afraid to let our kids fail? This is exactly why this generation struggles — too many adults want to hold their hands and shield them from every stone thrown their way. Life is harder than a basketball game. Let’s teach them how to stand on two feet, hold their heads high, and handle defeat with character. That’s how you build young men, not by protecting them from every uncomfortable moment.4 points
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#1 United at #3 West Brook Predictions
lil brother and 3 others reacted to Yeoj for a topic
United can be playing the Spurs and @BMTSoulja1 would say, I know the Spurs have Wembanyama and De'Aaron Fox, but I think the Timberwolves win by 10. SMH...4 points -
New Barbers Hill Facility
Mr. Buddy Garrity and 2 others reacted to Clueless for a topic
BH about to build a new field house along with new football locker rooms. $95 million bond to be voted on in May [Hidden Content]3 points -
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From the article: “DHS has no record of this incident”. This is gonna be Trump’s Kent State. Fascism has reached it’s high water mark in this country..3 points -
ANOTHER ICE SHOOTING IN Minneapolis
thetragichippy and 2 others reacted to bullets13 for a topic
If he had a second gun Trump would’ve jumped all over it, and the border patrol as well. Anything to make this ugly event look a little better for him. They put out a pic of his gun almost immediately. If there had been two you better believe they would’ve let us know3 points -
ANOTHER ICE SHOOTING IN Minneapolis
OlDawg and 2 others reacted to thetragichippy for a topic
It’s crazy…..I remember being called racist when I agreed with jury/cops decisions on “unarmed black man”…..now we have a white guy armed with a weapon getting in the middle of police business, and I’m hearing he had a right to conceal carry…..so, the only common denominator is they don’t like cops…..because I’ve said this on several social media sites, if you don't teach your kids to comply and not resist or fight the cops, it’s child abuse…..there is a risk for every decision people make….if I drink and drive and hit a telephone pole and kill myself…..did I deserve to die? No, but that decision put me there…… Until people stop blaming everyone else for their poor decisions, nothing is going to change….I’m not lowering my standards, both of the deaths were because of stupid, dumb and illegal decisions they both made.3 points -
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The huge difference is this is what happened when Kyle and the police met,,,,,, He surrendered without incident......3 points -
Anti-ICE agitators adopt Palestinian tactics, including martyrdom
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[Hidden Content] From the article: A coordinated web of encrypted chats, street alerts and tracking of ICE "Abductors" in a sophisticated database reviewed by Fox News Digital shows that agitators were already mobilized at the scene where 37-year-old Alex Pretti was killed minutes before any shots were fired. ICE and Border Patrol agents were there to arrest an illegal immigrant criminal, and Pretti and others were there, outside a donut shop, to meet them as part of a strategic pattern of organized interference with law enforcement operations. Over the following hours, a national network of socialist, communist and Marxist-Leninist cells in the United States leveraged the tragic fatality into a nationwide protest operation. While grief and outrage over Pretti's death is genuine, the network's real-time rapid response, using short sensational video clips and emojis as weapons of propaganda, offers a window into the disciplined logistics, messaging and coordination of far-left warriors fomenting insurgency-like confrontation with authorities.3 points -
ANOTHER ICE SHOOTING IN Minneapolis
Boyz N Da Hood and 2 others reacted to Porter for a topic
Deport all illegals. Report anyone suspected of being an illegal in your neighborhood or job to 1-866-DHS-2-ICE (1-866-347-2423), the official 24/7 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Tip Line - it is now active.3 points -
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I mean I’m good with keeping both, Cardinalbacker was at least entertaining, but I understand you can’t bash the moderators with no consequences.3 points -
I’ve seen the video. Did he interfere with law enforcement, yes. Did he refuse to comply, yes. Was he armed, yes. Is this tragic, yes. Was he executed, no. Depends on the lens you’re looking through. [Hidden Content]3 points
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Pre-MAGA Republicans: “Don’t tread on me!” Post-MAGA Republicans, when masked federal agents keep executing American citizens in the heartland… “they got what they deserved!” It’s really sickening to see what Republicans stand for today.3 points -
Silsbee 75 Vidor 51/FINAL
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Crazy fans should get called out for saying dumb stuff.... Coaches don't get to show up to other peoples jobs and make comments about their performance3 points -
Greenland
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Elon Musk has been warning the country of a financial death spiral for a couple years now if we don’t get it under control. I truly believe at least 40% of our debt is made up of fraud if not more.3 points -
January TepAndStepp Podcast ($)
Mr. Buddy Garrity and one other reacted to Matthew328 for a topic
If you need a TXHSFB fix before UIL realigment check out this month's TepAndStepp that just was recorded last night! [Hidden Content]2 points -
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no paywall - a fairly long read, but it does include still frames from the videos we have and case law….. if you want to hear an opinion from someone who has actually prosecuted use of force cases. @tvc184 - this may be right up your ally, [Hidden Content]#2 points -
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thetragichippy and one other reacted to OlDawg for a topic
Don’t use @DCT gingko biloba to try to help. It just makes you talk to yourself. 😂 😉 Now, I need to go to Walmart Vision Center and get my progressives adjusted before my teeth fall out…2 points -
Yes, 💯 percent in my opinion. One of the key issues that came out almost immediately is that one agent had already taken the pistol. First if the time issue. The second issue is, was the agent who fired the shots aware that the pistol had been removed? Put yourself in the position of the agent who fired the shots. If someone yells GUN!!, where are you going to look? Are you gonna start looking at the hands of the several agents or are you going to be looking at the suspect? I have been there. I was on the porch one time trying to take a man into custody and he started fighting and actually got my partners pistol out of the holster. There were three other officers there besides me. I can promise you that I was not looking at the other officers’ hands. I don’t know what the officer saw and I would like to see any body cam footage but those are sometimes extremely limited in what they show. The burden of proof in court is still, is there proof beyond a reasonable doubt that in this situation, the officer was not in fear and he knew that the suspect no longer had the pistol?2 points
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Game Lumberton 54 Silsbee 612 points
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ANOTHER ICE SHOOTING IN Minneapolis
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There as a period of time I didn't..... I was finding myself going to places that I normally wouldn't without a gun....made me think I was putting myself in dumb places Now I won't go somewhere I would only go if I'm carrying.... Traveling to Austin, I'm bringing it along with 2 additional clips so I can be like @bullets13 🤣2 points -
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How about the abridged TVC special version? 😉2 points -
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TheMissingBand and one other reacted to AggiesAreWe for a topic
I saw where someone compared Rittenhouse to this situation. Both brought loaded weapons to a protest. One side said it was wrong, the other applauded. I am not saying this is the same but there is some irony.2 points -
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Looks like Walz is coming to his senses...... From Truth Social: Governor Tim Walz called me with the request to work together with respect to Minnesota. It was a very good call, and we, actually, seemed to be on a similar wavelength. I told Governor Walz that I would have Tom Homan call him, and that what we are looking for are any and all Criminals that they have in their possession. The Governor, very respectfully, understood that, and I will be speaking to him in the near future. He was happy that Tom Homan was going to Minnesota, and so am I! We have had such tremendous SUCCESS in Washington, D.C., Memphis, Tennessee, and New Orleans, Louisiana, and virtually every other place that we have “touched” and, even in Minnesota, Crime is way down, but both Governor Walz and I want to make it better! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP [Hidden Content]2 points -
Anti-ICE agitators adopt Palestinian tactics, including martyrdom
baddog and one other reacted to thetragichippy for a topic
The Feds recovered 1100 separate chat groups in Signal with 400,000 unique messages on Stewart Rhodes phone after Jan. 6th. There is talk that inside officials in the Government may have coordinated with Petti on the harassment of ICE agents.....I think we are about to see the Trump administration take action on these ILLEGAL protestors.....2 points -
People expect cops to be perfect, while the criminals can act a fool, then play victim when it doesn’t go their way. You got some sick people who side against law and order, until they become a victim.2 points
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Video is out that shows the officer that retrieved the gun from the holster discharged the weapon firing it possibly accidentally. That shot may have caused officers to respond with deadly force.2 points
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Porter and one other reacted to thetragichippy for a topic
I have personally warned this member via private message a couple times he was walking a fine line and it is being watched…… so, anything that happens will be on him.2 points -
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Man, this rings of Cardinalbacker.🙂2 points -
Bill Clinton defies congressional subpoena.........
DCT and one other reacted to LumRaiderFan for a topic
Jack Smith said so, enough said. lol2 points -
Beaumont United 56 Beaumont West Brook 68/FINAL
Mamba and one other reacted to AggiesAreWe for a topic
Could not have said it better, I watched this game off and on last night. Then I watched it this morning in it's entirety. The team that played the best won last night. It's just that simple. The two teams are pretty evenly matched. It's all about who executes the best and who makes the better adjustments when they play each other. United will have another opportunity to avenge the loss. Play better the next time.2 points -
Silsbee 75 Vidor 51/FINAL
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Yeh, I think most men would be extremely upset if somebody said something crazy to their wife. Im not sure vidor people realize how lucky they are to have such a solid coach. It wasn’t that long ago they were a perennial door mat.2 points -
Im so happy things are turning around for coach and the kids. Seems like their buying in and the results are showing.2 points
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Southlake Carroll open!!
BigWillie2003 and one other reacted to AshlyHasBeen for a topic
Riley was boys athletic coordinator 2018-2023 before getting the nod to the AD role in 2024.2 points -
Officer charged in Uvalde shooting….
thetragichippy and one other reacted to OlDawg for a topic
Seemed like a scapegoat case all along. The Superintendent/Principal/Maintenance Supervisor of the school was more responsible by not fixing a door lock they’d been notified was faulty long in advance. I don’t remember if anyone in the ISD was ever held responsible or not.2 points -
#1 United at #3 West Brook Predictions
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LMAO... Dude stop!2 points -
Armed militias fire heavy machine guns through Tehran streets in deadly night attacks
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[Hidden Content] Where is the pathetic UN on this? Do they even serve a purpose? Come on liberals, explain it to me.2 points -
Greenland
LumRaiderFan and one other reacted to baddog for a topic
Always remember….in the game of chance, Trump is the house.2 points -
#1 United at #3 West Brook Predictions
lil brother and one other reacted to AggiesAreWe for a topic
My bad. I was told today that it was Coach Thomas. I will make the correction. My apologies.2 points -
Y'all are missing the point. The U.S. already has unfettered authority to do whatever they want on Greenland with a tacit 'check-in' to the local representative and Denmark. I've previously posted the agreements and links to the others. So, there's nothing to really be gained on the defensive front. As far as the minerals/resources, to my knowledge there's no technology available that would make these safely accessible in any near term future. I don't know how many fools there are that would be willing to invest billions in a smallish, unstable icesheet with an island that's less than 1/4 of the size of the contiguous U.S. Not to mention, the power requirements that would be needed to even contemplate much development. At the height of it's population, Greenland has had a little under 60,000 people. Most are indigenous, and don't want to be a part of Denmark or the U.S. They want independence, and to live in their own 'tribalish' way. They speak their own language, lack any in-depth technical knowledge, and seem to have no desire to change. They survive on ancestral fishing techniques, and massive subsidies from Denmark. Without Denmark's subsidies, they wouldn't survive. The Dem's would be happy. They'd have 3 places they could add Senators after adding statehood. Greenland, Puerto Rico, and D.C. All 3 would be basically guaranteed liberal strongholds. Greenland is socialist already. For all the kudos about cutting budgets with DOGE, why the heck would you want to take on a 'forever' welfare territory that really offers nothing you don't already have? If you must, create formal, indefinite land leases with air & sea rights similar to Gitmo. Make them survivable regardless of whether Denmark remains in charge, or Greenland goes independent. When you have a bigger footprint, possibly bring some development, and show the population what CAN be, maybe they will be more perceptive to a merger. If China or Russia come calling, make sure the arrangement has a ‘right of first refusal’, or a block on non-NATO ownership/leases. Until then, you have all the access necessary without the cost. Use it. Greenland isn’t Venezuela. Far from it. Unless it's all about ego...2 points
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*23-3A District Games, Tuesday Jan. 20*/Post updates & results here
Brookeland Athletics and one other reacted to Tyerman for a topic
First win for Onalaska in 20 year school history at Crockett.2 points