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I think if you had true football capitalism it would not go the way you think it would go lol The process is imperfect because its based on human judgement which is imperfect and thats not taking into account the process where humans willfully aren't honest on the forms....BUT based on the rules today that opens the door for circumvention of the rules in place. If I were in charge I'd try to get rid of judgment as much as possible and make it black and white...no more transferring for athletic purposes questions on the form..its residency and residency alone...BUT I'd have more robust compliance arm of the UIL to check into residency questions and not leave that to the schools... The only question is..where do I come up with the money to pay the salaries of this compliance arm

Your stance on the subject shows just how much you choose to not acknowledge kids are moving into SOC every single year strictly for football and they are being recruited there by SOC coaches. You are making a fool of yourself. But please, carry on.

Mansfield could have checked the box on Udom and a hearing could have been scheduled, but they did not check the box for whatever reason...thats the process as it exists today..... A lot of the kids SOC gets from out of their attendance zone enroll as freshmen..they 365 then they have established residency and are eligible as sophomores

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I can agree with that last statement. I have stated that the coaches and local DEC's have to do better. The problem with DISD is they have become a "you watch my back and I'll watch yours" district.

I get out plenty and talk with many people in the coaching industry. I know exactly how wild the DFW area is with the transferring but my point is all these players were ruled eligible by all ruling committees. As for the complaining. My point was the vast majority of it comes from the team who loses to the team accused of cheating. Is it justified? To a point, yes. But knowing who some of you are on here that have posted or liked comments on this thread (including you) and what their school association is, my point has been proven. Like I stated before, policy needs improving.

I agree with everything bolded. As for the sour grapes, sometimes they're warranted. My team will never lose to SOC in a state final game, so while I have an opinion on the matter, it doesn't affect me the same way it's affected PNG. If I lived there I'm sure I'd be a lot more passionate about the subject. I'm also sure there have been plenty of sour grapes in Silsbee over the last decade when their basketball teams deserving of being state champions have lost out to houston teams or Faith Family because of a broken system. And i personally don't blame anyone from Silsbee a bit if they're still upset. As for SOC, there's a difference between having done no wrong and not having been caught doing wrong. Is it possible that every D1 player that transfers in is doing so on their own with no encouragement or interference from the coaching staff? I suppose it is. But that seems unlikely, and I'm not sure how anyone could be confident saying that it's happening that way.

I've raised this issue multiple times because I believe there are documented and firsthand examples that warrant discussion. Dismissing those examples without examining them doesn't address the underlying concern. One example I personally witnessed was two SOC coaches discussing their quarterback after a state championship loss. One coach remarked, "We ain't winning one with this cat. I hope we get [player] to move in." While a single conversation does not prove systemic wrongdoing, it illustrates the mindset that many believe contributes to the issue. There is information available for those willing to research it. I don't claim to have every piece of evidence compiled, but it's inaccurate to suggest there is no basis for these concerns. At the same time, it's equally unsupported to categorically state that these situations never occur. Both positions require evidence. From my own experiences around these programs, I've spoken with coaches who have expressed frustration over the competitive imbalance they believe exists. The concern extends beyond one school and has been raised in discussions involving programs such as Denton Ryan, Argyle, DeSoto, and South Oak Cliff, among others. Their view is that some schools benefit from player movement in ways that place neighboring programs at a competitive disadvantage. None of my comments are based on rumors or what I wish were true. They are based on firsthand observations, conversations with coaches, and concerns that have been expressed within the Texas high school football community. Those concerns were also reflected in the anonymous coach responses published in the Dave Campbell's Texas Football coaches survey, where coaches openly discussed transfer-related issues and competitive balance.

7-2 win for Houston. Another quality start for an Astro pitcher. Wesneski went 6 IP, giving up 2 runs on 4 hits, 4 K's, 2 BB. Sousa and De Los Santos with 3 shutout innings. Houston has now won 12 of last 14.

I agree. My decision of which Friday game to attend will be based on how things are going into that week. But right now I will go with these games for Week 7: Thursday Baytown Sterling at Beaumont West Brook Friday Port Arthur Memorial at La Porte (2nd choice is Orangefield at East Chambers) Saturday Incarnate Word at Lamar

Just spoke with an High Island school official. HI will be playing in TCAL for all their athletics. Doesn't mean that some of their athletic teams will not play UIL teams in non-district because they will play some of those schools. Just won't be participating in any districts in UIL athletics. High Island will have a varsity football team this coming season unlike last year. Will remain a 6 man football team.

In regards to Faith Family, I think that's a case of apples and oranges. Charter schools should never be allowed to play UIL or at least have to play 6A. There is a reason why Faith Family no longer plays UIL. As for the Houston teams, that can be viewed as the same as SOC. But like I said, the complaining still came from the losing team. Personally, I didn't have much issue with Silsbee losing to Yates or Washington (we did beat them more than they beat us). I did have issue with Faith Family. They never belonged in UIL.

It'll be before the season....just dont know when yet

I am working on the schedules and should have them done this week, I have 6A-3A done so far. 2A and 1A to come.

Schedules are done.

What evidence of recruiting is out there that the UIL has? If someone has it I'm sure they'd be happy to take it and make an example of someone. If the kids that go there have clean PAPFs the UIL's not going to intervene unless there's evidence of recruiting...the only time I can recall a kid transferring to SOC and there actually being a hearing was the kid from Corsicana who signed with A&M and he was cleared....

I like that. And I love DesotOakinVille. LOL!!

That and the fact that Houston didn't score a run when the game was tied 3-3 in bottom of 7th and Astros had runners at 2nd and 3rd with no outs. Another good pitching game gone to waste.

I think what you are pointing to is a system that absolutely has flaws and isnt perfect...the question remains how do you build a system in today's environment where open enrollment and charters exist and you dont punish kids who move legitimately AND would also hold up to inevitable court challenges..

Great time at the Astros game tonight for dollar dog night. 4 hot dogs and 7 beers down. I bought the tickets buddy (the DD) gets to drive. Great trade off,

😅🤣 No. I love high school football, am proud of the local town & school, enjoy the banter with some folks I’ve known for many years, and my better 1/2 is unable to communicate now with her condition. So, posting with y’all keeps me kind of connected as I don’t use other social media.

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Did a little digging since we always have this question come up. Here's the history between La Porte & Port Arthur. La Porte vs Port Arthur History This year’s District 9-5A D1 game will be the 34th all time meeting between La Porte and Port Arthur. La Porte first faced Port Arthur Jefferson in 1922. This rivalry dates back 104 years! This season will be the 34th game played between the two cities. Port Arthur Jefferson closed in the late 90's and Port Arthur Memorial became the school in Port Arthur in 2002. Here is the breakdown of the last 33 meetings! LP PA 1922 0 20 1978 49 12 1979 24 22 1980 14 41 1981 7 41 1982 21 33 1983 28 14 1984 7 6 1985 17 20 1986 14 17 1987 21 14 1988 17 12 1989 35 20 1990 35 35 Tie 1991 27 22 1992 49 27 1993 37 0 1996 38 6 1997 31 3 2006 56 27 2008 56 28 2009 42 21 2010 37 13 2011 24 20 2011 6 34 2012 37 33 2013 45 47 2014 41 35 2015 13 62 2020 17 45 2021 27 50 2022 34 54 2023 27 38 2026 ? ? Current head-to-head overall: LP 19, PA 13. Since the opening of Memorial, the series is tied 7-7. It's been a series of 5 game runs broken up by alternating wins by both teams between the runs. PAM was the last team to beat LP in a district game in either 9-5A D1, or 11-5A D1 with a comeback win in Port Arthur in 2023.

People on here do understand. But the vitriol and complaining was towards SOC when it should be directed at UIL and the local DEC.

That part... But people on here don't understand that.

I’m team limited government capitalism. It’s the team that has created more ‘haves’ than any other system in the world, and many—if not most—of those who think they’re ’have-nots’ would be ‘haves’ in much of the rest of the world.

Fairly simple for the coaches who are “sick of it”: 1. Regulate it through their membership on the DEC. 2. Don’t sign off on transfers. **The reason they don’t follow these steps is because they have similar in their own programs. Every school in Texas receives players and loses players.

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5A/6A have larger numbers of athletes that don’t play spring sports, therefore they have the participation to conduct functional practices. You get to have 18 practices if you do spring ball and the sacrifice is starting a week later in the fall. Really helps set your rosters before you break for the summer. Allows you to conduct meaningful football skills during the summer as well.

With 7 offensive and 10 defensive starters returning along with 33 lettermen returning, I don't see them going 3-7 and winning just 1 district game this season. DCTF has them being one of the most improved teams for this season. I got them making playoffs.

Rules were broken yes. Punishment is warranted yes. I personally believe they should have been a harsher punishment. The head coach didn’t act alone and fit all the kids for shoulder pads and helmets. He didn’t run the practice by himself. All the coaches should have some type of punishment.

I think this subject can be viewed in many ways. But what I believe 89Falcon is trying to say is that these student athletes that are mentioned were all ruled eligible. The coaches that the player transferred from didn't check the box, the DEC the player is transferring to didn't rule ineligible (and that matters the most since it's comprised of schools that will be competing against said player(s) ), or these players sat out the necessary time before being allowed to play varsity sports. Like Matt stated, UIL will most times not step in on these type situations and will just about always rule the same as the DEC. Should policy change? I say it should. But until then as long as players are ruled eligible, the schools can carry on. Stating that schools recruit can be viewed as sour grapes. Not saying that's the case here but most of the complaining normally comes from the losing teams. In the case of SOC, all their players were ruled eligible so they have done no wrong.

i have mixed feelings on the topic at hand, but having read through this thread it's definitely worth noting that you're being a bit obtuse on this one (intentionally, no doubt, as you're no dummy). While it is inarguable that schools gain and lose students every year, it's also inarguable that there are a few schools who consistently gain new students who "coincidentally" happen to be D1 football recruits. It's obvious what happens at several of these schools, but in some it's provable through common sense. Let's take SOC, for example, which is a C-rated campus, and is located in South Oak Cliff, an F-tier community to live in. it's kind of hard to find a really valid reason why the recruits (i mean transfers) have moved from A or B rated school districts, generally MUCH safer neighborhoods, and areas with more job opportunities and housing other than football. As for your **, generally transfers who are transferring for non-football reasons aren't transferring to schools that have great football programs, and also aren't transferring to schools getting large numbers of obvious football related transfers. If shepherd gets a stray running back move-in here or there, or some kid from beaumont moves out to HF, etc, it's one thing. But something tells me if half of the D-1 recruits from around SETX started moving into HF every season and were allowed to play lots of folks would have lots to say about it, including the coaching staff of Shepherd (regardless of what their PAPFs say).

2 out of 3 vs the giants. Monday L 1-5 Tuesday W 5-4 Wednesday W 6-0 Weekend series vs the oriloes. Season record: 57-58

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I thought this was very cool. Pasted from the Tribune link in my previous post above. And the excess heat from power generation can drive thermal desalination systems. In the Permian Basin, where oil and gas operations produce vast quantities of contaminated water known as produced water, that means a single reactor could simultaneously generate clean electricity and treat water that would otherwise be a waste stream. The heat from the reactor could vaporize the water, leaving salts and other contaminants behind for disposal, before condensing the vapor into clean water, said Douglass Robinson, Natura’s founder and CEO. “While we’re producing the electricity, the waste heat off of that electrical generation is the heat we could utilize for the desal,” Robison said. “So we do both at the same time.”

You do know that parents change residences for a large number of reasons, right? Job, cheaper housing, better neighborhood, different school district for their kids, etc. Nobody can stop people from moving. If they actually move, and can prove the change of address.... how is that the kid's fault? Why would a kid be punished by sitting a year if his/her parents made the decision to relocate? You can't prove why the move happened. And honestly.. it's nobody's business. I could sell my house this afternoon if I wanted to... for whatever reason I wanted to.. for however much I wanted to.. and move to wherever I wanted to. And if I still had kids at home, they'd go with me. And there's nothing nobody could do about it. They shouldn't be punished if I as there parent makes a decision to relocate. As long as none of us openly advertised that we were moving so my kids could get an athletic scholarship or play for a potential state champion, then who's to say it was for athletic purposes? There's no question that it has and does happen that kids/parent change schools to potentially be in a better position athletically, but it's not difficult to justify the move for legitimate reasons. Apartment complexes make it easy in metro areas like DFW, Houston, Austin, etc..

If the process has been followed there is nothing "illegal". Coaches can check the box if they want to or not. Even if they do not check the box, the DEC still reviews the transfer and can still not accept the transfer. They can also "accept" the transfer even if the former coach check's the box. Seen both in the last month.

You know this does not happen. SOC brings in kids every year from outside the district. I will wait while you name me one that sat a year. Isaiah Udom played for Mansfield his sophomore year then started for SOC his junior year. I am sure he moved from an A rated school district to a school with historically poor academics and a 97% poverty level because of something other than football. There are two to three every year. Show me one that sat out.

You have to regulate common sense and put guidelines in place because someone is going to line step....and the minute they do you better have your ducks in a row to prevent a lawsuit as a organization..now if something happens and the school wasnt following the guidelines its the school butt on the line and not yours....

Saw this on X: The S&P 500 and the Dow Jones just hit new record all time highs this morning. Congratulations to all who invest in America, your 401ks and stocks have never been more valuable. Stocks are now up over 50% since April of 2025 when the “experts” told you economy was collapsing.

Too many people are overthinking. It's not rocket science We live in Texas... Texas did not become hot and humid overnight. Been this way for a bit now, and common sense would tell people the best ways to beat the heat are... work earlier in the morning or later in the evening, drink plenty of fluids (not just water), rest periods in the shade (Pop-up tents), misting fans, have trainers walking around passing out cooling rags, wear lighter-colored clothes, have talks with parents about making sure their kid(s) are hydrating at home, getting outside to acclimate to the heat, etc.

Define "freaking out". Personally I think it's an interesting discussion. I'm just curious how to make it cut-and-dry. Like the lightning detector, when the alarm goes off, then players leave the field, etc. Perhaps there will be a "WBT-detector" with an alarm available on the market soon, or already is. An entrepreneur could possibly make some money here. But seriously, I would have thought there were already rules in place regarding frequency of mandatory water breaks, and providing areas of shade, like canopies perhaps, for outdoor practice areas, and things like that. I attended fire school at Texas A&M during some hot months for ~15 years, and there were mandatory breaks, covered rest areas, jars of pickles, ice water and sometimes fruit of some sort provided, to protect everyone from heat exhaustion. There are ways. But like I said earlier, the UIL or whoever is just trying to regulate common sense, IMO.

The site could use a few more members like you. Thanks for your contribution to the site.

No. Again. And again. And again. We are an oil exporter. That's different than being energy independent. We can't use our own ultra pure, light oil because our refineries are set up to refine dirty, heavy crude. We haven't been able to really take advantage of our newly accessible deposits because of regulations on our oil industry. He--like all the rest--is either too stupid to know the difference (entirely possible), or is intentionally misleading and counting on the public just to take the easy way out--or be too stupid themselves--and blame Big Oil without really investigating his claim. It's become a tired drumbeat. The new South Texas refinery will be the first new refinery built in 50 years. It will specifically process U.S. shale oil. Of course, it won’t help us with prices. All product is to be exported to India, as they are funding the project even though it’s a Texas based company.

Just because they have open enrollment does not mean a player can play the first year he arrives. Still has to follow UIL transfer guidelines the same as if it were closed enrollment.

Blame it on the select sports culture........ If I don't like it one place we will just go somewhere else and parents have encouraged it. Kids play for the name on the back instead of the name on the front now.

It's out of control. Especially in Dallas.