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I think if you had true football capitalism it would not go the way you think it would go lol The process is imperfect because its based on human judgement which is imperfect and thats not taking into account the process where humans willfully aren't honest on the forms....BUT based on the rules today that opens the door for circumvention of the rules in place. If I were in charge I'd try to get rid of judgment as much as possible and make it black and white...no more transferring for athletic purposes questions on the form..its residency and residency alone...BUT I'd have more robust compliance arm of the UIL to check into residency questions and not leave that to the schools... The only question is..where do I come up with the money to pay the salaries of this compliance arm

Your stance on the subject shows just how much you choose to not acknowledge kids are moving into SOC every single year strictly for football and they are being recruited there by SOC coaches. You are making a fool of yourself. But please, carry on.

Mansfield could have checked the box on Udom and a hearing could have been scheduled, but they did not check the box for whatever reason...thats the process as it exists today..... A lot of the kids SOC gets from out of their attendance zone enroll as freshmen..they 365 then they have established residency and are eligible as sophomores

I get out plenty and talk with many people in the coaching industry. I know exactly how wild the DFW area is with the transferring but my point is all these players were ruled eligible by all ruling committees. As for the complaining. My point was the vast majority of it comes from the team who loses to the team accused of cheating. Is it justified? To a point, yes. But knowing who some of you are on here that have posted or liked comments on this thread (including you) and what their school association is, my point has been proven. Like I stated before, policy needs improving.

I agree with everything bolded. As for the sour grapes, sometimes they're warranted. My team will never lose to SOC in a state final game, so while I have an opinion on the matter, it doesn't affect me the same way it's affected PNG. If I lived there I'm sure I'd be a lot more passionate about the subject. I'm also sure there have been plenty of sour grapes in Silsbee over the last decade when their basketball teams deserving of being state champions have lost out to houston teams or Faith Family because of a broken system. And i personally don't blame anyone from Silsbee a bit if they're still upset. As for SOC, there's a difference between having done no wrong and not having been caught doing wrong. Is it possible that every D1 player that transfers in is doing so on their own with no encouragement or interference from the coaching staff? I suppose it is. But that seems unlikely, and I'm not sure how anyone could be confident saying that it's happening that way.

I've raised this issue multiple times because I believe there are documented and firsthand examples that warrant discussion. Dismissing those examples without examining them doesn't address the underlying concern. One example I personally witnessed was two SOC coaches discussing their quarterback after a state championship loss. One coach remarked, "We ain't winning one with this cat. I hope we get [player] to move in." While a single conversation does not prove systemic wrongdoing, it illustrates the mindset that many believe contributes to the issue. There is information available for those willing to research it. I don't claim to have every piece of evidence compiled, but it's inaccurate to suggest there is no basis for these concerns. At the same time, it's equally unsupported to categorically state that these situations never occur. Both positions require evidence. From my own experiences around these programs, I've spoken with coaches who have expressed frustration over the competitive imbalance they believe exists. The concern extends beyond one school and has been raised in discussions involving programs such as Denton Ryan, Argyle, DeSoto, and South Oak Cliff, among others. Their view is that some schools benefit from player movement in ways that place neighboring programs at a competitive disadvantage. None of my comments are based on rumors or what I wish were true. They are based on firsthand observations, conversations with coaches, and concerns that have been expressed within the Texas high school football community. Those concerns were also reflected in the anonymous coach responses published in the Dave Campbell's Texas Football coaches survey, where coaches openly discussed transfer-related issues and competitive balance.

7-2 win for Houston. Another quality start for an Astro pitcher. Wesneski went 6 IP, giving up 2 runs on 4 hits, 4 K's, 2 BB. Sousa and De Los Santos with 3 shutout innings. Houston has now won 12 of last 14.

Arrighetti was 7-5 with a 4.60 ERA and 1.34 WHIP. 87 K's, 50 BB in 88 innings pitched. Varsho is batting .243 with 7 HR and 26 RBI. OBP is .307, SLG .375, OPS .682 Math tells me we got the short end.

Just because they have open enrollment does not mean a player can play the first year he arrives. Still has to follow UIL transfer guidelines the same as if it were closed enrollment.

Just spoke with an High Island school official. HI will be playing in TCAL for all their athletics. Doesn't mean that some of their athletic teams will not play UIL teams in non-district because they will play some of those schools. Just won't be participating in any districts in UIL athletics. High Island will have a varsity football team this coming season unlike last year. Will remain a 6 man football team.

I can agree with that last statement. I have stated that the coaches and local DEC's have to do better. The problem with DISD is they have become a "you watch my back and I'll watch yours" district.

In regards to Faith Family, I think that's a case of apples and oranges. Charter schools should never be allowed to play UIL or at least have to play 6A. There is a reason why Faith Family no longer plays UIL. As for the Houston teams, that can be viewed as the same as SOC. But like I said, the complaining still came from the losing team. Personally, I didn't have much issue with Silsbee losing to Yates or Washington (we did beat them more than they beat us). I did have issue with Faith Family. They never belonged in UIL.

It'll be before the season....just dont know when yet

I am working on the schedules and should have them done this week, I have 6A-3A done so far. 2A and 1A to come.

Schedules are done.

What evidence of recruiting is out there that the UIL has? If someone has it I'm sure they'd be happy to take it and make an example of someone. If the kids that go there have clean PAPFs the UIL's not going to intervene unless there's evidence of recruiting...the only time I can recall a kid transferring to SOC and there actually being a hearing was the kid from Corsicana who signed with A&M and he was cleared....

I like that. And I love DesotOakinVille. LOL!!

That and the fact that Houston didn't score a run when the game was tied 3-3 in bottom of 7th and Astros had runners at 2nd and 3rd with no outs. Another good pitching game gone to waste.

I think what you are pointing to is a system that absolutely has flaws and isnt perfect...the question remains how do you build a system in today's environment where open enrollment and charters exist and you dont punish kids who move legitimately AND would also hold up to inevitable court challenges..

Great time at the Astros game tonight for dollar dog night. 4 hot dogs and 7 beers down. I bought the tickets buddy (the DD) gets to drive. Great trade off,

😅🤣 No. I love high school football, am proud of the local town & school, enjoy the banter with some folks I’ve known for many years, and my better 1/2 is unable to communicate now with her condition. So, posting with y’all keeps me kind of connected as I don’t use other social media.

You cannot "get recruits in every year". They have to sit out a year unless they go through the exact same process that every other district goes through. "Open enrollment" is irrelevant in the UIL process.

Most schools have open enrollment.. but that only means that they accept out of district transfers as STUDENTS. Those kids still have to sit a year to be eligible for UIL competition. Being accepted as a student doesn't change that.

The select division concept intrigues me

With Hardin out of the way, I believe EC will finish 2nd behind the Orangemen. How many transfers did EC get this year? Good for at least 1 or 2 since 1863.

Should the UIL require open enrollment schools to play sports in the highest classification? The private schools who elect to play in the UIL are required to play in the highest classification. Houston's Strake Jesuit comes to mind. SJ's enrollment fluctuates between 1,200 and 1,400, but the SJ sports teams must play in 6A. Should the open enrollment schools be treated the same way? Both systems, private education and open enrollment public schools, can cherry pick athletes.

I agree. My decision of which Friday game to attend will be based on how things are going into that week. But right now I will go with these games for Week 7: Thursday Baytown Sterling at Beaumont West Brook Friday Port Arthur Memorial at La Porte (2nd choice is Orangefield at East Chambers) Saturday Incarnate Word at Lamar

People on here do understand. But the vitriol and complaining was towards SOC when it should be directed at UIL and the local DEC.

From the report as stated from an AI search: The report points to: Local government education lost about 50,000 jobs, which economists say was likely influenced by seasonal-adjustment issues rather than a wave of layoffs. Retail lost about 19,000 jobs. Financial activities lost about 14,000 jobs. Meanwhile, healthcare, construction, manufacturing, and information added jobs

Fairly simple for the coaches who are “sick of it”: 1. Regulate it through their membership on the DEC. 2. Don’t sign off on transfers. **The reason they don’t follow these steps is because they have similar in their own programs. Every school in Texas receives players and loses players.

5A/6A have larger numbers of athletes that don’t play spring sports, therefore they have the participation to conduct functional practices. You get to have 18 practices if you do spring ball and the sacrifice is starting a week later in the fall. Really helps set your rosters before you break for the summer. Allows you to conduct meaningful football skills during the summer as well.

With 7 offensive and 10 defensive starters returning along with 33 lettermen returning, I don't see them going 3-7 and winning just 1 district game this season. DCTF has them being one of the most improved teams for this season. I got them making playoffs.

Rules were broken yes. Punishment is warranted yes. I personally believe they should have been a harsher punishment. The head coach didn’t act alone and fit all the kids for shoulder pads and helmets. He didn’t run the practice by himself. All the coaches should have some type of punishment.

I think this subject can be viewed in many ways. But what I believe 89Falcon is trying to say is that these student athletes that are mentioned were all ruled eligible. The coaches that the player transferred from didn't check the box, the DEC the player is transferring to didn't rule ineligible (and that matters the most since it's comprised of schools that will be competing against said player(s) ), or these players sat out the necessary time before being allowed to play varsity sports. Like Matt stated, UIL will most times not step in on these type situations and will just about always rule the same as the DEC. Should policy change? I say it should. But until then as long as players are ruled eligible, the schools can carry on. Stating that schools recruit can be viewed as sour grapes. Not saying that's the case here but most of the complaining normally comes from the losing teams. In the case of SOC, all their players were ruled eligible so they have done no wrong.

You do know that parents change residences for a large number of reasons, right? Job, cheaper housing, better neighborhood, different school district for their kids, etc. Nobody can stop people from moving. If they actually move, and can prove the change of address.... how is that the kid's fault? Why would a kid be punished by sitting a year if his/her parents made the decision to relocate? You can't prove why the move happened. And honestly.. it's nobody's business. I could sell my house this afternoon if I wanted to... for whatever reason I wanted to.. for however much I wanted to.. and move to wherever I wanted to. And if I still had kids at home, they'd go with me. And there's nothing nobody could do about it. They shouldn't be punished if I as there parent makes a decision to relocate. As long as none of us openly advertised that we were moving so my kids could get an athletic scholarship or play for a potential state champion, then who's to say it was for athletic purposes? There's no question that it has and does happen that kids/parent change schools to potentially be in a better position athletically, but it's not difficult to justify the move for legitimate reasons. Apartment complexes make it easy in metro areas like DFW, Houston, Austin, etc..

Don’t tell Hippy with his SpaceX buy. He’d of been better off playing pitch at the high roller tables. He wouldn't even have had to worry about taxes. 😉

You have to regulate common sense and put guidelines in place because someone is going to line step....and the minute they do you better have your ducks in a row to prevent a lawsuit as a organization..now if something happens and the school wasnt following the guidelines its the school butt on the line and not yours....

Saw this on X: The S&P 500 and the Dow Jones just hit new record all time highs this morning. Congratulations to all who invest in America, your 401ks and stocks have never been more valuable. Stocks are now up over 50% since April of 2025 when the “experts” told you economy was collapsing.

Define "freaking out". Personally I think it's an interesting discussion. I'm just curious how to make it cut-and-dry. Like the lightning detector, when the alarm goes off, then players leave the field, etc. Perhaps there will be a "WBT-detector" with an alarm available on the market soon, or already is. An entrepreneur could possibly make some money here. But seriously, I would have thought there were already rules in place regarding frequency of mandatory water breaks, and providing areas of shade, like canopies perhaps, for outdoor practice areas, and things like that. I attended fire school at Texas A&M during some hot months for ~15 years, and there were mandatory breaks, covered rest areas, jars of pickles, ice water and sometimes fruit of some sort provided, to protect everyone from heat exhaustion. There are ways. But like I said earlier, the UIL or whoever is just trying to regulate common sense, IMO.

The site could use a few more members like you. Thanks for your contribution to the site.

No. Again. And again. And again. We are an oil exporter. That's different than being energy independent. We can't use our own ultra pure, light oil because our refineries are set up to refine dirty, heavy crude. We haven't been able to really take advantage of our newly accessible deposits because of regulations on our oil industry. He--like all the rest--is either too stupid to know the difference (entirely possible), or is intentionally misleading and counting on the public just to take the easy way out--or be too stupid themselves--and blame Big Oil without really investigating his claim. It's become a tired drumbeat. The new South Texas refinery will be the first new refinery built in 50 years. It will specifically process U.S. shale oil. Of course, it won’t help us with prices. All product is to be exported to India, as they are funding the project even though it’s a Texas based company.

If Javier (who got the start tonight) can do well the remaining of the season, then this can be a good trade.

That is the understanding of how it's supposed to work in an honest process. You're assuming everyone is honest, which in itself is naive. They are NOT honest. They are constantly using loopholes and skirting the rules. This isn't assumption, it's 100% happening. It's worse in Dallas than any other Region. I have known many coaches and players in that entire Region - they know it's happening and they know nothing will be done. You can continue to assume everyone is honest. I can tell you that I've seen it happen to schools that didn't deserve it, while other schools benefitted from it. One example is a smaller 5A-D2 school at the time had the horses to make a run but the QB decided to go to a larger school with more notoriety. That left the smaller school with a QB that didn't quite have the ability to take them where they probably would have gone. That transfer was not an honest one and neither are the majority.

Ppl freaking out about this is amazing and hilarious 🤣

I’m aware of: Bridge City ISD, Lumberton ISD, Goose Creek ISD, La Porte ISD, Deer Park ISD. I’m sure there are more. You’d have to search by ISD for those you’re curious about. Some may surprise you as they are smaller districts. It’s not always the big ISD’s. It’s the money issue. Many adopted open enrollment of some fashion after school vouchers passed, and enrollment began dropping for multiple reasons (private schools, immigration policies, home schooling, etc.)

5-4 win for Houston. Astros have now won 5 straight and 10 of last 11. Have 1 1/2 game division lead. Go for the sweep tomorrow.

People tend to have different opinions on what making America great looks like. It’s more than a narrow biased catch phrase.

Open enrollment schools play within their normal classification. Open enrollment does not impact UIL eligibility. Just because they enroll does not mean they are eligible for varsity sports. If they live outside the district boundaries they are likely to sit out a year.

Houston Strake Jesuit turned in 2974 enrollment for this past realignment. DCTF has them at 2974 and finishing 4th in 21-6A. UIL uses total enrollment of 9-12, not just the male pop. But, SJ had to agree to play 6A in order to participate in UIL. It's just now they have 6A numbers.

Blame it on the select sports culture........ If I don't like it one place we will just go somewhere else and parents have encouraged it. Kids play for the name on the back instead of the name on the front now.