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Don’t know him but have heard this from multiple sources I know and trust. Now stop trying to lend sanity and reason to this otherwise trainwreck of a thread. P.S. to mods - can we lift Cardinal Backer’s suspension for this thread only? I feel like he was made for this thread.

My two cents re: ArmbandGate. There may not be evidence that stealing the armband (That’s what it was. The instant he intentionally did not return the armband to its rightful owner while knowing it wasn’t his to keep, it became a theft) helped LCM win the game, but it’s evidence that at least one LCM coach (1) stole from another team, (2) lied when he had an obligation to tell the truth, and (3) took steps to cover up his theft even while direct inquiries were being made to him about the armband’s location and what he did with it. That has to be punished. If an attorney did something like this in a trial he might be disbarred. And, the team should have had to forfeit the game. Letting LCM skate on this invites exactly the message people are making here today, that “it must not have been that big of a deal if it didn’t warrant a forfeit.” It’s very much a big deal, an astonishing example of bad faith and dishonesty from a public employee in charge of children. It was a blatant violation of sportsmanship, human decency, and the law. Most of us will remember that in 2018 PNG had to forfeit a game they won against Crosby under less severe circumstances. A coach had an iPad in the press box - Against the rules. So, even though it was agreed by the district members that there had been no effect on the game’s outcome, PNG was forced to forfeit. There was no lying, or hiding evidence by PNG as there was by LCM - it was simply, “You broke a rule and we have to send a message.” LCM broke the rules, and the district should have sent a stronger message.

So is it true or not true that the LCM coaching staff went to a Chauncey Billups coaching clinic this past summer?

I’d like it to go on record that the yahoos on this thread spewing nonsense and trying to change the subject make up what is a (very) loud minority of LCM folks. I’ve known Hunter a long time and consider him a friend. Looks like he made a mistake in the heat of battle and will have to live with the consequences. Unfortunate situation all around.

IMO, both schools looked ridiculous in this whole thing.

My disdain is BCs intentions were clear to me.... They wanted an lcm forfeiture. They weren't concerned with getting the watch returned or refunded or anything of that nature.

The UIL board all said they can see and lean towards LCM having an advantage, but didn't have enough to "go down that bumpy road" But you heard what you want to hear I'm sure.

"If we cheated in this game, we would have self-reported"😂

The DEC voted to send the assistant coach to face the UIL because he did not follow procedures and turn in the watch immediately. An ethics violation. That's why they met today. The UIL mentioned that they were making a decision on personnel, but they also wanted to give their opinion on competitive advantage. They could not conclude that it made any difference in the outcome of the game. All members had all the video that was presented during the DEC to review before this morning. People have to remember that these meetings are also used to clarify things for the future and admitted that making a ruling on the outcome of the game after the DEC chose not to would lead us down a bumpy road.

I must have missed all this speed you speak of when I watched them earlier in the season.

Bears Win Peevey Cleared Gonzalez Suspended for 2025 Football & Probation "We lost our competitive advantage after we turned our watches off!!" - Scores 16 points

UIL grilling LCM hard

LCM won't be able to contain Lumberton's momentum. They have been on fire since that big loss to Bridge City. Lumberton by 2 scores.

Hardin's first undefeated season ever. Congrats, Hornets!!!

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KOGT posted an in depth article. Stelly is more reliable than any news source in SETX.

BC is one of the last schools that should be pointing the finger about ethics.

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I’ve kept quiet about this, but I talked to a BC defensive starter after the game. When asked what happened in the first half, he nailed it. “They got one of our bands and knew our plays before the snap. We went back to signaling plays in from the sideline and they couldn’t stop us.” That’s the whole “adjustment” that BC coaches made… they stopped giving the plays to LCM. Like I said… they had to cheat to beat a 4A D2 school. Did Peevey forget how to coach or do they just suck up there? You be the judge.

I personally believe there was a competitive advantage in this situation. But like the DEC and SEC ruled, there was no preponderance of evidence to prove it so therefore a forfeit wasn't warranted. I stated from the get go that I didn't think a forfeit would be warranted in this situation. Public reprimands, probation and coach suspensions? Yes. But no forfeit. Glad this is over. Now my phone can stop blowing up.

Bc sup tried to claim competitivie disadvantage because they had to turn the bands off. But also said their terminology of plays was very basic and simple. Huge disadvantage 🤣🤣🤣 for ehat were stated as "master planners" in coaches

From the tone and wording of the meeting it seems LCM was very close to losing more than an assistant coach for the season..

District 9 Center Cleveland Tarkington Huntington Jasper Shepherd District 10 Hamshire-Fannett Hardin-Jefferson Liberty Silsbee West Orange-Stark this was district 9/10 in 18-20. 4a d2. enough about past realignments.

I think I’ll be watching Crosby at Angleton tonight on TL. Give me an idea how 11-5A may fare against 12-5A. Should be an excellent game. Don’t see a need to watch Pasadena at LP. May keep one eye on it just to see who is playing for LP is all.

They all know someone is lying

Bridge City scrimmage

I see what you did there 😉

Excellent. With this bunch and the 17 returning starters Ned's future does look bright. To all those that are down on the situation -- just relax, Ned's day will come.

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JV score was Nederland 29 Montgomery 14

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Timberwolves 24 Rangers 14 Final !!:24/14/F

I think this is the take. There’s not enough evidence to force the forfeit, but more than enough to be very suspicious and draw some (unpunishable) conclusions. While I have no dog in this fight, it’s been kinda ridiculous seeing the posts from some LCM fans equating not being able to be punished with not having done anything wrong.

His favorite target. Weiss OL is not that good.

Yep. I’m seeing Simon & Ruffin slicing through like soft butter right now. Either team.

I liked him last year, and could tell he had a strong arm back during pre-season. He just needed to know when to take some off and be able to finesse the ball at times. I thought should’ve started last year and this year. The move in had experience at small schools and appeared to have trouble to adjusting 5A level speed IMO. Just my two cents

"Have y'all ever self-reported on Coach Gonzales?" "Yes, we have." That's pretty telling.

I always tell my sons... "things done in darkness will come out in the light". this is sad. Adult administrators should know better.

I’ve read a lot of smack from the LCM fans, but the end of the day the Cardinals are fighting up/out of their weight class and tied for first-and I think they’d be undefeated in the district if not for what happened in this game. What does that say about LCM if BC is accused of taking the “easy road” by opting up to play the Bears? If anybody wants to take a trip down memory lane, how were things going for the Bears before they dropped down from 5A D1? They stunk. Then they hired a “state championship caliber” coach… and he somehow lost his mojo… or BOJO, if you prefer. I don’t blame them for cheating… I would do anything to avoid getting handled up by a much smaller school from across town, too. Like when they duck their longtime cross town rival Mustangs. Whatever happens in the meeting today doesn’t matter. I believe that the Bears deserve a forfeit, but it won’t change anything. We’ll see ‘em next year and pick up where we left off the second half.

I spoke to Jim last week at length and told him I’d be in attendance for the SC/WB next weekend at Campbell. He mentioned he doesn’t do rankings anymore. Also no mention of talking with anyone about them. My first state Tournament was in 1982, in support of Beaumont Hebert, but I have no recollection of it. The first Erwin center trip I can remember with frontal lobe development is 1988, with BJ Tyler and company (also Sallier if I’m not mistaken). And have been to 90% of them since that point. I am not a media person, but again it’s just my opinion. No need to apologize, I’m just kindly providing insight.

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The point total vs. Sterling would not come into play. They only use the points in the games played between the three teams. All I am saying is some districts use points to break three way then go head to head. Last year it was a three way for final spot. After breaking tie, there was no need to go to head to head. But this district may use points throughout and not just to break three way. May use it on remaining two teams. In that case, United is out.

If Cove loses and BU wins, then WB, United and Cove will all be 3-3 and it goes to that tie breaker nonsense which BU will be on the losing end.....

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Search NDN Press on YouTube. It might not be up yet, but it will be come game time.

I have 0 evidence of anything heresay and conflicting statements from all of us. Lcm seems wrong here and I've stated that multiple times. I've also stated give bc what they want. I know 1 thing and history shows that lcm is usually the better team regardless. Even in down years and BC is always looking for an excuse. 💯 give them the win and we'll go fishing for their band. BC opted up in football why? BC schedules one of the easiest pre district schedules in the state why?? And you think they want this investigation kicked off JUST for sake of integrity? You're sadly mistaken. Dont be reaching for excuses after the Huffman game.

No worse than stealing signs in baseball, BC fault for losing the device. No worse than coaches getting signals from teams on game film and if they don’t change it up it’s on them. Seems like BC is being petty to me.