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Alright, I think that's enough. Rule 15 of the SETXSports rules prohibits the posting of unsubstantiated rumors. The original subject of this thread is completely unsubstantiated and, based on my own research, verifiably false. The speculation about the future of Nederland's runningback is also unsubstantiated. This thread will be locked. I look forward to what Jeff Joseph will do with the Port Neches-Groves Indians in 2024 and beyond.

Central’s basketball announcer saying “Central Medical Magnet High School” is seared into my brain from playing there 15+ years ago lol

More of a combination. Community has just as much to do with it as anything; For instance, PNG's community spirit is what allowed them to spend thousands of dollars to hire Dodge to even go find a great coach. Without the right school board and community, that ain't happening in the first place... And I'm not a PNG guy, but I recognize one of the finest football communities in the nation when I see it.

Field a team with a good coach but the kids are slow, all Freshmen, unintelligent and possibly mentally disadvantaged. How much winning will that coach do? Now I understand that’s a stupid example, but it’s just to serve as an exploded view. You gotta have a combination of coaching, kids & community which includes parents and administration. It takes all 3.

I really think there is a lot of jealousy here. Are dudes mad they don't have college degrees, but coaches do? I'm sure a lot of them make more money than high school coaches, but I'm certain that many also do not. I'm just trying to figure it out.

I can't even get him to explain to me why Bill Belichick is sub .500 without Tom Brady.. or hasn't won a playoff game since Brady left NE. Or why some is his elite coaches (by his definition) didn't win another state title after reaching elite status (according to his definition). So.. again. You're wasting your time. Might as well just let him believe that any coach could go to any team and win it all eventually. Wait.. I think 7 years is his timeframe.

I don’t know that SOC makes it back next year. That region is stacked and they will be adding Anna (4A D1 State Champ) who is moving up. I like PNGs odds though. All that said it is very hard to win 5 straight against top talent each week, especially when you go into each game with a bullseye on your back like PNG will next year.

Nederland has the same problem with politics that Beaumont does. Homeboy hires and consulting rather than winning games with the best players and coaches.

OL PNG QB PNG WR SOC DL PNG LB SOC DB SOC Special Teams PNG

From the early part of the game, there were no calls on both sides. .

I agree and at the QB and RB position.

I think you are overestimating SOC's talent this year..PNG especially up front IMO was more talented

They’re just mad because “coaching” beat “talent!” They, like some here, don’t understand it! 😎😁

Nederland doesn't have a Reagan to point them in the right direction.

Louisiana does a Power ranking and makes the playoff bracket based on that with no geographic considerations. Imagine all the bickering and arguing over seeding. Also that 1st round matchup between Port Arthur and El Paso would be fun…. 😀

That parade and pep rally was nuts last night. I pulled the defense with my truck and trailer and couldn’t believe the amount of people there. The community support is unmatched.

Hopefully Big Ned will make a change soon If not we will continue to see bad football at Nederland

Man those years between Aikman and Romo were some dark times lol

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Agreed 100%

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Most veteran PN-G fans will tell you the problem in the latter years of Ethridge's tenure was that he lost his coordinators and his best position coaches and couldn't find strong candidates to replace them.

PNG has 8 back on offense and 5 on defense. two of the three d linemen are back.

I disagree with this. You wanna pin it all on coaching but PN-G has been successful for a long time, not just under Joseph. Multiple state championships and great seasons to prove this. Always competitive and in every game just about. Again, the two schools do not compare when it comes to the culture. There have been some amazing coaches come through Nederland and they still have 0 state championships. It is not just the coaching that is the culprit. PN-G is on a whole different planet when it comes to support from the community. Teams don't identify themselves by their coaches. They define themselves based on their identity. Ask any state champion how they got there. I guarantee you, coaching is a small part of an identity this is NOT rooted in a coach. Great teams are lead by great young men that bought into a program with the support of their community. WO-S lost that community support based on a hire they didn't like. Now look at them. They are missing their identity because the community turned on the coach, school, and the players' performance on the field followed. Tell me I am wrong. The game is bigger than just a good coach.

BINGO... But to those people it's ONLY about wins and losses. NOTHING more NOTHING less

Bingo 😎

Personally, I'm looking for my truck not to pull to the right or I am taking it back to the shop.

The soph QB really stepped up, and the big Offensive line did too. The receiver-back up QB - punter #11 is a jr, and will play a big part again next season. #15 rb will also. On defense there will be lots of big roles to fill. But db #10, and LBs 4 and 43 are juniors. I'm not sure how many D linemen with starting or regular roles are returning. Anyway, it's been fun watching this year's team, and it's been fun watching the seniors play for the past 6 years. Or 5 years? They were undefeated 2 years in middle school, and "won district" as a jv team, then went to state their 2 years on varsity. (This is speaking by-and-large, since a few of the SRS played on varsity as sophomores.)

Just another outlandish conspiracy theory??? Trump will have to run as a 3rd party candidate because the RNC won't nominate him no matter how we the people vote in the primaries. Both parties learned from Hillary that Trump can grab em... and still win. So the democrats nominate MObama to replace JB. They need a historic vote for the first woman president to make sure Trump has no chance. Both sides stuff the boxes this time. With Vegas taking bets on the over/under.

Depending on who you ask up there, I totally get what Matt is saying 🤣

Exactly. I was telling a buddy that exact thing.

This is incredible. They had every opportunity to look at who was on the ref crew, and approved that crew anyway. How can there have been a lack of transparency when the ref bios were public information? Also, that ref only even threw one flag the whole game, and that wasn’t the call they’re complaining about. That ref has no children attending PNG, which is the only violation possible. Wasn’t the ref crew from the Dallas area last year? Not to mention, this sends the worst possible message to the students : That there’s no such thing as graceful defeat, that every disappointment must be appealed, that every failure is a robbery instead of just a failure.

13 and 6. He can go. McNeese just 20 pieced them but he obviously didn’t play.

That used to be a rule but I dont believe it is any longer

Not to hijack the thread, but on the subject of RBs...we will miss #33. Not the biggest and not the fastest, but he had patience, good vision, he was fearless, and his ball security was top notch. He was fast enough when it counted and he had the heart of a champion. For next year, #15 will be the bruiser, and some people at the LH semifinal game say there is a SOPH and a FR that will open some eyes this spring and next year. Supposedly, the SOPH runs north/south and is not afraid to put his head down and the FR is the speedster. I'm not a local, but was told our JV finished second to FBM and the FR team was either first or second? Any truth to the chatter at the LH game? Thanks...back to your thread about Chief Jeff Joseph leaving the Tribe. I think he wants to stay a few more years at PN-G. JJ, McDaniel, McCrary, Feller, et al. have two or three more years of big runs at PN-G if they want it. 4/5 of the OL returns, 2/3 of the DL returns, the QB is back, and a few other playmakers on both sides will be back. It's a good time to be a PN-G fan (says Captain Obvious). Go Indians. Peace.

I remember that freight train of a team they had under Fedora. Would love to see the Rattlers be contenders again.

I just think from the evidence shown so far, they desperately need to have a home playoff game. I don't like their chances on the road to any of the teams that will be hosting in the NFC.

setxathlete did a good job answering this for me. why not leave PNG and go make more money somewhere with more prestige and state of the art facilities? If he's confident in his ability to win anywhere (why wouldn't he be), it makes total sense to go take a high profile job somewhere, especially if he has any dreams of moving up into the college ranks. I hope that he stays for awhile, truly. but there's a lot of desperation in this thread from PNG fans (totally understandable) that is misrepresenting just how much better it would be for him to stay here versus taking over a big-name program somewhere else. And if he's going to do it, now's the time. PNG isn't going to sniff state every year, and his stock may never be higher than it is right now, especially if PNG comes back to earth the next couple of years.

Yea they might not like red head guys but they also might like to stay at home if daddy can bring a big check home. Hell ill stay home if a fat woman wants me to move in😜

There are a few stay at home moms in the Hebert Woods edition 🤣

You have to be joking. I know several single women who don't care for red headed men. Isn't this a little "over the top"? Next thing will be that he asks for a mil a year contract and folks will expect PN-G ISD to pay it. I think the guy stays for a while and builds something pretty special. But let's pump the brakes a bit.

I like the defense having no name. Let the words “PNG defense” be scary enough. At the current rate, they will be.

Tyler is a friend of mine and he was the line judge yesterday. He threw one flag all day, the illegal hands to the face in the 3rd quarter. Nothing he did yesterday was under debate from their fans until they found out where he was from. .........

I know coaches on that staff personally & from what I’ve been told the talent has drastically declined over the years. So that explains the downfall. Secondly coaching does indeed matter just not over talent

I ain’t even mad cowboys lost to the bills today they kick my a$$ every month too…

The spreads work well with a lot of kids running 4.8’s Didn’t you know.

Easy on the personal attacks and stay on topic.

It important that kids have a way out when they realize they unknowingly joined a cult…