SmashMouth Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 It’s my understanding that Lumberton’s new baseball coach, wait sorry, new head football coach is not playing a single starter both ways. If you have the personnel to do that - go for it. But if you’re a team that struggles to win, like Lumberton last year, then don’t you agree that you should start your best 11 on all 3 components of the game and sub in when they need rest? I’m not just speaking for Lumberton, they’re my unfortunate example. L-Train11, Hagar and Boneyard Boys 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setx fan Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 46 minutes ago, SmashMouth said: It’s my understanding that Lumberton’s new baseball coach, wait sorry, new head football coach is not playing a single starter both ways. If you have the personnel to do that - go for it. But if you’re a team that struggles to win, like Lumberton last year, then don’t you agree that you should start your best 11 on all 3 components of the game and sub in when they need rest? I’m not just speaking for Lumberton, they’re my unfortunate example. Depends on how big the gap is between your top guy and the next guy in line. If your top guy isn’t much better then you probably want to keep fresh bodies on the field. If your top guy is much better even when fatigued then keep him on the field. Uncle Pig and piratevillain 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reagan Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 hour ago, SmashMouth said: It’s my understanding that Lumberton’s new baseball coach, wait sorry, new head football coach is not playing a single starter both ways. If you have the personnel to do that - go for it. But if you’re a team that struggles to win, like Lumberton last year, then don’t you agree that you should start your best 11 on all 3 components of the game and sub in when they need rest? I’m not just speaking for Lumberton, they’re my unfortunate example. Head coaches will live or die with their decisions! But the question is: Can Lumberton field 22 players that can make a run for the State Title? BADSANTA and BlueOwl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCMAlumtiger32 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 You play to win the game. If that’s playing a kid both ways you do it. I played both ways and the only time I had a break was special teams. I didn’t know any different. I’m sure the Lumberton coach is trying to make all the parents happy SmashMouth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aTmfan06 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Reagan said: Head coaches will live or die with their decisions! But the question is: Can Lumberton field 22 players that can make a run for the State Title? Right now? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Stirrer Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 I’m all for playing your best 11. I did watch hallettsville RB dominate the first half in the state game. Not so much second half. He fumbled a ball late, failed to have pursuit to save a touchdown, and gave up that all important 2 point conversation to win. Probably because he was tired and lost focus. A single player cannot play every snap at their best. Physically impossible. Got to find ways to supplement the physical demand of a football game piratevillain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Stirrer Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 Those who say they played every snap of every game, that just means you took a lot plays off on the field but you’re too old to remember that. Silsbee92, glassjoe, Uncle Pig and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EAGLEFOREVER Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 30 minutes ago, Pot Stirrer said: Those who say they played every snap of every game, that just means you took a lot plays off on the field but you’re too old to remember that. Didn't play every snap, but did play both ways. Evidently wasn't to bad at it, made All-State both ways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Reagan said: Head coaches will live or die with their decisions! But the question is: Can Lumberton field 22 players that can make a run for the State Title? Not even the district title. Regardless, put your best guys on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vp93 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 The best should be played in key situations in district and playoff games. Hagar, piratevillain and Separation Scientist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, vp93 said: The best should be played in key situations in district and playoff games. That’s fair. But I think you play like you practice. I’m gonna have my best 11 on each side of the ball practicing and playing unless I can insert a legitimate sub to rest the starters. dj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Separation Scientist Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Pot Stirrer said: Those who say they played every snap of every game, that just means you took a lot plays off on the field but you’re too old to remember that. I did not play "every snap" but somewhere between 95% to 98%. It was exhausting I admit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Separation Scientist Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 5 hours ago, vp93 said: The best should be played in key situations in district and playoff games. I agree with that. Achieve a judicious balance. For example, If you are fighting to win the district against the #2 team, throw your best at them. If you are up by 20+ in the 4th against a weaker opponent, sub in generously. If your opponent happens to start to rally, you can re-sub the starters back in anytime. How many times have there been laments about someone getting hurt during garbage time. It happens needlessly. Also take out your starters if a game is getting chippy. I would not put it past a hothead opponent to take cheap shots in the final minutes if they are PO'ed about losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdiug Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 Lumberton hardly ever wins, do players traditionally play both sides of the ball there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 8 hours ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said: You play to win the game. If that’s playing a kid both ways you do it. I played both ways and the only time I had a break was special teams. I didn’t know any different. I’m sure the Lumberton coach is trying to make all the parents happy Lumberton often forgets it has a wildcard in its deck. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCMAlumtiger32 Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said: Lumberton often forgets it has a wildcard in its deck. 😉 Probably time to get rid of the team and they can join a bowling league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted August 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Byrdiug said: Lumberton hardly ever wins, do players traditionally play both sides of the ball there? Well, in the history, that’s true. But the last 2 out of 3 years, they went 2 deep in the playoffs. But that’s not the topic. I’m asking, not just for Lumberton, should a coach (especially with a struggling team) mandate that starting both ways will not be allowed? That seems so counterproductive to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted August 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 14 hours ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said: You play to win the game. If that’s playing a kid both ways you do it. My point exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBH Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 The problem with kids playing both ways today is most of the players are not physically in shape. Most players just playing on one side of the ball are wore out in the 4th qtr. BlackShirts5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, BBH said: The problem with kids playing both ways today is most of the players are not physically in shape. Most players just playing on one side of the ball are wore out in the 4th qtr. W.o has been doing it since the late 80's and it still works today. WOSdrummer99, SmashMouth and WGM 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsilove2 Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 21 hours ago, SmashMouth said: It’s my understanding that Lumberton’s new baseball coach, wait sorry, new head football coach is not playing a single starter both ways. If you have the personnel to do that - go for it. But if you’re a team that struggles to win, like Lumberton last year, then don’t you agree that you should start your best 11 on all 3 components of the game and sub in when they need rest? I’m not just speaking for Lumberton, they’re my unfortunate example. I don’t get the baseball part? Am I missing something here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted August 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Benchwarmer9 said: I don’t get the baseball part? Am I missing something here? Yes. You are missing the same thing that the district missed. They hired a head baseball coach to be a head football coach. glassjoe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EAGLEFOREVER Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 8 hours ago, BBH said: The problem with kids playing both ways today is most of the players are not physically in shape. Most players just playing on one side of the ball are wore out in the 4th qtr. That is where physical conditioning comes in. They're working my boy to hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 9 hours ago, BBH said: The problem with kids playing both ways today is most of the players are not physically in shape. Most players just playing on one side of the ball are wore out in the 4th qtr. Well those are the kids that need to get into ceramics/art and academic competitions cause athletics are obviously not for them. With all these off-season programs within schools along with other sports there should be no reason why a kid is not in shape unless it's a medical condition. L-Train11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setx fan Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said: Well those are the kids that need to get into ceramics/art and academic competitions cause athletics are obviously not for them. With all these off-season programs within schools along with other sports there should be no reason why a kid is not in shape unless it's a medical condition. There’s different levels to the term “in shape”. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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