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Congratulations to Coach HH and the entire staff for representing SETX and 9-4AD2. Coaches have stuck to their process and now that they have better talent they have achieved higher results. Coaches have produced high level game plans and made strategic in game adjustments as they have since they took over at WOS. Now, all roads lead to Carthage who have a better player at nearly every position other than MLB and possibly a DL spot. Friday's outcome will not be the result of incompetent coaching, and it will most definitely not be because WOS ran a "50 defense" instead of a "50 defense". Regardless of the final result Coaches and WOS players have done a great job and even more so given the poison from segments of the fan base.9 points
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Port Arthur Memorial (28) Smithson Valley (31)---FINAL
prepballfan and 7 others reacted to Austin1985 for a topic
Best team to come out of PA ever Hell of a time to loose ya 1st game. So proud how they didn't quit when down by 10 I know 1st hand how they all feel Congratulations to Coach Morgan Congratulations to those Might Titans You made us all proud8 points -
Victory + App
Gasilla and 5 others reacted to PhatMack19 for a topic
Go ahead and download it. All state championship games will be streamed on that app. It’s free6 points -
Why harsh words in the time of death?
bullets13 and 4 others reacted to AggiesAreWe for a topic
Rude and crude is one thing. But making comments like that when a man and his wife are murdered by their son? That's so out of line and disrespectful. Makes him no different than the folks he was criticizing for their comments after Kirk was killed. Very two faced. We are not debating policies here. Just be a descent human being. Something I expect my president to be. Just needs to be more respectful. Not hard to do.5 points -
West Orange-Stark vs Carthage - State Final
Morris_era and 4 others reacted to wo-s#1 for a topic
Some good points in this post same as last week they are NOT currently doing the same things they have since day 1.. I feet you know that and just want to stir something up,stop spreading lies..as far as this game,we all know it’s an uphill battle but so were the last several..supposing.Go Stangs!5 points -
West Orange-Stark (28) Sinton (3)---FINAL
Gasilla and 4 others reacted to AggiesAreWe for a topic
Final 28-3 WO-S Mustangs headed to Arlington!!!5 points -
Let it go man, why do yall insist on disrespecting that man? What did he do to yall? It's his team , his players, his coaching staff, his support staff! Nobody else deserves credit for what this team is doing. Would you go to work and put forth that effort for a week, a month, a year? And then have someone get the accolades, or the money, or credit for the work you've done??? Are there any other coaches that you think their accomplishments are due to something they may have learned or picked up from someone else? What individuals doing any kind job do you know, that didn't learn something from someone else, including yourself?? The only coach I see on this site who can't get credit for the positive things that happen during his tenure is Hickman, but let one bad play happen, one loss, one miscue, and it's 1000% his fault, maybe he learned those bad plays from someone too5 points
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Why harsh words in the time of death?
Porter and 3 others reacted to thetragichippy for a topic
Here is my 2 cents that probably means absolutely nothing.... First, This is one of those things I wish he would of kept his mouth shut.... It would have probably served him better. Someone's death is not the time to get the last word..... However, Trump has been delt some bad hands since 2016. He has been accused of being a Nazi, Racist, Pedophile , mentally unfit, crook and probably more I don't remember. There is now evidence, and pretty good evidence that he was set up to fail by the Obama administration, the Hillary administration started the Russia hoax, Biden admin and certain states used Lawfare to try and bankrupt him and send him to jail, and at his age, would of been a life sentence.....and in this political climate there was 2 assassination attempts on his life, one being an inch from ending his life..... Reiner was a very loud critic of Trump, he helped launch a committee to investigate the Russian hoax (and never admitted it was a hoax), called him unfit to serve, called him a Fascist, claimed Trump was gong to end Democracy, wanted to charge Trump with TREASON (death sentence), wanted Trump to spend the rest of his life in prison..... There was some bad blood between the two, and if we are all being honest, our opinions of people do not change when someone dies. Again, he should of kept his mouth shut, but I can see his motivation to speak out.4 points -
Why harsh words in the time of death?
bullets13 and 3 others reacted to AggiesAreWe for a topic
Completely unnecessary from Trump. Just doesn't make any sense to do that. It certainly isn't very presidential.4 points -
West Orange-Stark vs Carthage - State Final
JBizzle and 3 others reacted to BevBrownJr for a topic
Carthage fan here apologizing for the error made in my very first post on this site in the Sinton thread. I posted the score of a 2008 Rockdale-Carthage playoff game as being a WO-S-Carthage game. I was relying on a website which listed all Carthage playoff games, which go back to the 40s. The lesson is not to believe everything you read! WO-S is on quite a roll. Says a lot about the character of a team to overcome the adversity of starting a season 2-3 by winning 10 straight to get to the state championship game. Expecting a great game Friday between two schools with impressive pedigrees…and some great athletes.4 points -
West Orange-Stark (28) Sinton (3)---FINAL
SmashMouth and 3 others reacted to Pepper Brooks for a topic
Congratulations to Hiawatha and the Mustangs. Lots of crow needs to be served to all those fans calling for Hickmans job over the last few years.4 points -
Another outdated "Slot T" team in the State Championship. A few hundred "modern offense" teams can watch them next week.4 points
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PNG and growth?
prepballfan and 3 others reacted to Big Daddy Cool for a topic
Was headed for Cameron. Damn Map Quest never used it again after that debacle.4 points -
RIP Coach Hooks
bullets13 and 3 others reacted to WOSdrummer99 for a topic
The man pulled me out of class cuz I was failing Calculus with Griff. I wasnt a star player but he told me this... idk what position play or if u play at all. But your names on my list now. So get your *stuff together or I'll be having another meeting with u that won't go so well. Get your *butt back in there and listen to Griff. Don't make me come down this hall again. Yesssir!!! And and i passed Calculus. RIP Coach Coach Hooks, stomp, stomp Coach Hooks, stomp, stomp Coach Hooks, stomp, stomp Sometimes during the pep rally it would barely stop long enough for him to speak. Then right back at it until the band played stop look and listen.4 points -
West Orange Stark vs Sinton
ladybug33 and 3 others reacted to MMstangfan for a topic
Wish Gary Stelly would come out of retirement !4 points -
West Orange-Stark vs Carthage - State Final
setxathlete14 and 2 others reacted to wo-s#1 for a topic
Save your energy3 points -
Why harsh words in the time of death?
OlDawg and 2 others reacted to AggiesAreWe for a topic
I could care less what Reiner or any other of those Hollywood folks have to say about politics or people. They are idiots and not important to me. POTUS is important to me and what he says or does or how he carries himself in the position of the office is important to me. I believe there is a higher standard. At least there should be. Bottom line, Trump was wrong for making those comments. It was completely unnecessary. It's not what I want MY PRESIDENT to do. Show some respect. show some class. It really isn't that hard to do. I hold Trump and any President to a higher standard. That's how it should be.3 points -
Why harsh words in the time of death?
AggiesAreWe and 2 others reacted to OlDawg for a topic
Some pretty massive rationalizations going on in this thread. One behavior doesn't excuse another. Sorry.3 points -
West Orange-Stark vs Carthage - State Final
Morris_era and 2 others reacted to marshman for a topic
Numbers 4-7 are spot on. There’s no question many things were changed those first two years and the facts show it didn’t turn out for the better. Beginning last year they got back to more of what made Mustang football so successful and the results are speaking for themselves. He and his staff have earned more respect. I just feel very badly for the kids that played those first two seasons. All their young life they dreamed of wearing that silver hat and following in the footsteps of those that played before them and they were caught up in an experiment that went wrong. Many don’t actually place alot of the responsibility on Hickman and his staff for that, it mainly fell on the previous superintendent Ricky Harris. He wanted so badly to show the world that WO-S could be successful doing things differently and with a different style and we all seen how that turned out. Good luck to Hickman and his staff and the Mustangs on Friday. Orange is proud of yall.3 points -
West Orange-Stark vs Carthage - State Final
Mr. Buddy Garrity and 2 others reacted to 89Falcon for a topic
In SETX, schools only opt up to play against lesser competition. Travel is not a factor.3 points -
Carthage has earned the right to be the favorite WOS has earned the right to attempt an upset Not all WOS fans are represented by the vocals on this site WOS fans have had legitimate reasons to be skeptical or unhappy. For a few years the program has underperformed to expectations H Hickman appeared to have fallen short H Hickman has now earned the respect of even most doubters Maybe a new era has begone? Some people will never be happy3 points
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West Orange-Stark vs Carthage - State Final
Morris_era and 2 others reacted to ladybug33 for a topic
Welp surly, I don't care what your team has done throughout the season or playoffs. This is my opinion. Why does Carthage play in high school D2 anyway when clearly, they should be playing UT or D1, and not WOS according to some people. Nobody is blaming the coaches if we are unsuccessful. I along with others don't care who says it over and over in order to get a reaction to start crap. We are blessed to have talented young men who have and will continue to win and represent Orange. Then, there are other schools who will never ever win district and their only reason for coming on this site is to create a stink and antagonize others.3 points -
**MONTGOMERY TOURNAMENT**/Post updates here
Cu Chulainn and 2 others reacted to BBBB for a topic
Bryan didn’t miss a midrange jumper that whole game! It was tight the entire game too! Great matchup with that 6A team! They were also a good free throw shooting team and super athletic. BC has improved at the line throughout the season. Only going to get better! They seem to be fixing the little mistakes made earlier on. Small defensive mistakes keep catching them. Overall, very proud of those boys. They held their own against those big schools. Great shooting, finishing and teamwork by Denison and Bush. Silveira had an incredible game against Montgomery. Mungy was just Mungy…can’t say enough there. Bush had seven 3s in the championship and finished the weekend averaging 20.2ppg. Congrats to Bush and Mungy on All-Tournament Team.3 points -
West Orange-Stark vs Carthage - State Final
goldenstick and 2 others reacted to Majestyk for a topic
The Stangs got their hands full for sure. I knew that when Carthage beat Texas Tech in a preseason scrimmage. Don't sell the ponies short, they'll bring it for sure. Bring it home Mustangs.3 points -
**ORANGE COUNTY WINTER CLASSIC TOURNAMENT**/Post updates here
Cu Chulainn and 2 others reacted to AggiesAreWe for a topic
The win by Orangefield over Sabine Pass was Coach Bryan Whitmire's 300th win. Congrats Coach!!!3 points -
You said what you needed to say as did I,we didn’t gain a thing from this conversation,same as the past conversations.. I will go back to ignoring your posts because they are irrelevant for the program..👌3 points
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Port Arthur Memorial (28) Smithson Valley (31)---FINAL
1970 and 2 others reacted to BMTSoulja1 for a topic
Heck of a season, fellas. I was very proud following this group.3 points -
To all my stangs brothers and sisters on here.its great to be back in Texas!!;great win I see.wos#1 fan probably one of the insightful people you may know on here.brings me to a scripture prov 12:1 to learn, you must love discipline;it is stupid to hate correction.it leads to wisdom!! With that been said HH has truly took on the assignment head on and won.it real doesn't matter what happens in the state game because he has already over achieved.cant blame someone for trying something different!! Even he will tell you he got back to what the kids know and the discipline that came with it.first few years he was trying to hard to fit in with the kids.where in practice kids pretty much did what they wanted too.ive seen it with my own eyes.i have even seen a player dad want to fight him because the kid lied and said a coach told him that he was the worse player in w.o history.and what no one on here knows.I know him really well and talk with him to leave that alone.so, HH didn't deserve that.!!at the end of the day the community wasn't exactly wrong about something's.even then instead of folding he went out and got an unsong hero who no one gives any credit too.is the new DC who is in sink on what they need to run on defense.so, no one on here could say they saw this coming!? #4 Jefferson has always been different every since little league.and his cousin Terrance Brown #34 helping him along the way.so, HH has to get a lot of credit once again.he learned not to change things just add too it.and that works. DRH and CT discovered something that brought the best out of orange,TX kids. the thing about this if you never saw the program from practice,games,to Saturday meeting and so on.and listening to what the board members had to say.some are truly outsiders watching the game.and the biggest one is never played here.a pair lips will say anything!! LLDRH !!!3 points
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Yes, WOS coaches did not become "competent" or "smart", "all of a sudden". The program has been rounded into form with the same quality coaching that has been present and in practice since Day 1.3 points
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Port Arthur Memorial (28) Smithson Valley (31)---FINAL
1970 and 2 others reacted to TimHampton for a topic
Thank you all for the entertaining few months. Thank you PA Titans and coaches. I look forward to seeing how each young man takes this entire experience and transition into real life. You may not have reached the ultimate goal on the field, but you most certainly can reach your ultimate goal in life!3 points -
I really hope Randle sends SOC and their coach packing. I honestly feel bad for their kids. Football should be a place to learn discipline. Have some role models. Their coach is 3/4 of the way across the field trying to fight other coaches and players. The UIL is truly cowards.3 points
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West Orange-Stark (28) Sinton (3)---FINAL
AggiesAreWe and 2 others reacted to Gasilla for a topic
One more Mustangs! Total domination tonight, score could've easily been 55-3. Defense and Offense played 4 quarters. This team amazes me. Biggest turnaround in WOS history!3 points -
El perro es un buen jugador de futbol. Fifi juega para la Copa Mundial de la FIFA. 😁3 points
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RIP Coach Hooks
WOSdrummer99 and 2 others reacted to dj for a topic
Gasilla,ladybug33,wosdrummer99,wos#1,Mmustangfan and so on this site.hard to put in words what he meant to all of us. And the program!! He wasn't just a coach a leader.i don't know anyone who wouldn't have loved to play for him.i know many say we were spoiled for all the years we were winning.and now today's game has changed.but, the toughness he and CT expected out of all of us was unmatched.looking on FB it is sooo many ppl.sending love and support.and if y'all get a chance look at what Kevin smith wrote about him.its truly a sad day for all of us.as them kids get ready to play in the semifinals.we all gotta give the current staff credit for going back to the way things were.trust me they even tackling more in practice and even hitting the sled again after practice!! I truly believe HH learned the lesson of it wasn't broke don't try to fix it.LOL,OC well any way!! But I truly have seen a lot of the old stuff that made us great.i know he is smiling down on all of us. The ol ball coach rip dan ray hooks !!3 points -
Why harsh words in the time of death?
Reagan and one other reacted to thetragichippy for a topic
Appears their scripture is as selective as their outrage......2 points -
Another Trump Victory
thetragichippy and one other reacted to LumRaiderFan for a topic
All you have to do is click on the link for each author and scan their previous articles on Trump, lol.2 points -
Some interesting games on tap tonight
BC1568 and one other reacted to Cu Chulainn for a topic
Orangefield handled HJ more easily than they did BC earlier this year even though they were both convincing wins for us. However, HJ had their football guys and BC didn't. BC is a different team with Mungy on the floor and he is the catalyst that gets Bush going. No knock on HJ at all, but I got BC by 15.2 points -
West Orange-Stark vs Carthage - State Final
Mr. Buddy Garrity and one other reacted to ctown81 for a topic
He was VERY respectful to WOS and raved about the RB. Were you really expecting them to pick WO-S?2 points -
The difference is one was a political assassination, while the other was an internal family matter. Neither should be condoned. Just like disrespecting either death shouldn't be condoned.2 points
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West Orange-Stark vs Carthage - State Final
Mr. Buddy Garrity and one other reacted to 89Falcon for a topic
Carthage is 4AD2 because of their enrollment but make no mistake that they would win 4AD1 going away. As far as the WOS fans go, there is endless transcript of who they blame. Everyone can read it easily enough. Check out WOS/HF thread for a good example.2 points -
The Mustangs have a good physical team and a lot of speed, but that will not be enough. Carthage's defense is playing lights out and is peaking at the right time. We all know defense wins the big game. Give me Carthage by 14 to 21. Go Dawgs!2 points
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He is Hickmans protector,nobody can say anything negative about him…funny thing is he just showed up this year to tell us about ourselves..last 4 years I wonder where he been?2 points
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West Orange-Stark vs Carthage - State Final
Morris_era and one other reacted to setxathlete14 for a topic
If you think he didnt make a big schematic change to what they do best you're really oblivious and if you cant see when that happened this year. Thats a different discussion..2 points -
28-3. They can’t stop #42 points
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This is the best first half they’ve played all year. They look like they want to go to Dallas.2 points
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BC-77 Montgomery-642 points
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Barbers Hill (35) Port Arthur Memorial (48)---FINAL
CavemanFootballJunkie and one other reacted to BMTSoulja1 for a topic
This is what I do know. There are certain people in this fan base that don’t have any knowledge of football and no school spirit but just show up to cause confusion. This may be the case here, however, there seem to be belligerent people like this In all of our local fan bases.2 points