BC/LCM watch scandal?

[Setxhasbeen]

Who has the details on this? I’m sure someone does around here! Let’s hear it! 

[CS.]

I know only what I’ve heard which is second hand info.

 

[AggiesAreWe]

I know all the details.

Was asked to keep it off the site until today's 10-4A DI Supt. meeting was over and an official decision was made.

I have been told the vote and the decision. Will post the details very soon.

 

[JackofAll]

Unanimous decision in favor of LCM.

The End.

[AggiesAreWe]

Just now, JackofAll said:

Unanimous decision in favor of LCM.

The End.

Was not unanimous.

Vote was 3-3. BC and LC-M did not vote.

[JackofAll]

4 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Was not unanimous.

Vote was 3-3. BC and LC-M did not vote.

Not what I was told and you may be right. 

Still an absolute crock. The superintendent and athletic director of Bridge City should be ashamed of the accusation with the lack of evidence. 

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

👀☕

[AggiesAreWe]

6 minutes ago, JackofAll said:

Not what I was told and you may be right. 

Still an absolute crock. The superintendent and athletic director of Bridge City should be ashamed of the accusation with the lack of evidence. 

I got text of the actual vote. Who voted for. Who voted against.

3-3 vote results in no forfeiture of game. But, an LC-M assistant coach will get a one game suspension.

LC-M AD/HC will not receive any punishment but the program will likely receive a public reprimand.

As for evidence, there was video evidence. 

IMO, a forfeit was not warranted in this situation.

[CS.]

3-3 decision is correct

more of an integrity issue over anything else 

no real rules broken but it’s definitely shady and sad

[PolkHighLegend]

Anybody want to elaborate on what the hell this is about?

[AggiesAreWe]

Just now, CS. said:

3-3 decision is correct

more of an integrity issue over anything else 

no real rules broken but it’s definitely shady and sad

100% agree.

[AggiesAreWe]

1 minute ago, PolkHighLegend said:

Anybody want to elaborate on what the hell this is about?

When I get the green light, I will give the details.

[JackofAll]

4 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

As for evidence, there was video evidence.

Can you expound on that?

[AggiesAreWe]

Just now, JackofAll said:

Can you expound on that?

HUDL film of the game. 

From what I was told it showed evidence of what was voted on.

I'll explain in my post with the details that is coming.

[Matthew328]

My sources indicate a 3-3 vote regarding forfeit  (I did not think forfeit was warranted personally)

[AggiesAreWe]

1 minute ago, Matthew328 said:

My sources indicate a 3-3 vote regarding forfeit  (I did not think forfeit was warranted personally)

Correct.

I agree. No forfeit was warranted.

[navydawg31]

Wow…  this is very alarming. I’ll be waiting to hear the story behind this…. But for a LCM coach to be suspended makes you go hmm… 

[BLUE_LEFT_LEFT_ONE_ELEVEN]

vote was 3-3, it takes a majority vote for penalty to be taken of the alleged violation 

 

HJ, Lumberton and Vidor voted in favor of LCM

Huffman, Liberty, Livingston voted in favor of Bridge City

 

[Lumbertonraider17]

Smalley being a sore loser

[AggiesAreWe]

Here are the details that I know.

In the LC-M/BC game of two weeks ago an incident happened at the beginning of the game that caused BC to raise questions. BC has electronic wristbands for their offensive play calling. The offensive players wear these "watches" and the offensive co. gives the play call from his tablet to these watches. This is the first year that UIL has allowed teams to use these devices. BC and a couple of other area teams use these devices. I hear they are pretty expensive. But that's here nor there.

At the beginning of the game (opening kickoff) an LC-M player found one of these "watches" and instead of giving it to a game official (which in NCAA rules, you are required to) he gave it to one of his coaches. The coach never gave it to an official. It was shown on game film the coach being handed the "watch". It was also shown on game film during the game that this coach, who is an offensive coach, stayed very close to the defensive co. all during the first half.

BC did not learn of the watch missing until right before halftime. They asked for it back. But it is not the responsibility of game officials to ask the opponent for it. School admins, coaches have to get involved. TASO has no say so in the matter. They are only responsible when given the device to get it back to rightful team. BC even had coaches and admins search LC-M sidelines during halftime to look for watch.  There is also no in game penalty to access the team who confiscated the device.

LC-M claimed they did not have the device and has yet to turn it over. But video evidence shows otherwise. What the video doesn't prove if the coach or coaches were able to use the device to their advantage. But the halftime score was 17-0 in favor of LC-M. BC stopped using their devices in 2nd half. Final score was 24-16, LC-M.

A meeting today of the district supts. to discuss this issue and vote on a possible forfeiture or reprimands. The vote was 3-3. So no forfeiture.

This is definitely an ethics situation and not necessarily a rules violation. DEC and UIL would have to govern and determine what type action. 

IMO, it's a black eye on all involved but like I stated earlier, should not warrant a forfeiture of game.

[spidersal]

Coach Smalley is an excellent coach and a good person. What an asinine statement by a Lumberton fan on him being a sore loser. For the LC-M coach that did not give the watch back, he should be suspended 

[Sabine River Pirate]

Gaining a competitive advantage is 100% a part of sports. Sign stealing , deflating footballs, ect..ect

 

Why shouldn't Smalley be pissed in the scenario above. I think anyone on his side of the situation is pissed right now.  At the time that game goes a long way for the DC. At the end of the day no rules were truly broken. Lying during and afterwards on having the watch is definitely low on the integrity scale ... especially if video shows otherwise.

[setxathlete14]

So the watch is why lcm won the game? C'mon. Right wrong or indifferent move on.

[Sabine River Pirate]

I would say it didn't hurt. Come on acting like having every offensive play call in the first half didn't play a part is naive 😂

[bullets13]

May not have broken any rules, but that’s bush league. And any LCM fan acting like it wasn’t a major advantage, and quite possibly the difference in the game is delusional.