BC/LCM watch scandal?

[setxathlete14]

Just now, TheMissingBand said:

Well, if a district is weak because your team is in it, what does that say about your team?

Y’all need to ask yourselves why that state championship caliber coach can’t get the Bears out of the first round. 

Never claimed to be anything but better than bridge city most years. Most have always recognized how weak this district is. And that's why bc wanted to try and take advantage of some more wins.

[LamarCard2011]

4 minutes ago, marshman said:

I’ve read this week that a forfeiture wasn’t ever a real possibility so if that true I’m  left wondering why BC took it to this to this level? I completely understand the ethics issue and totally support that, but if the BC folks knew getting the game results overturned was not going to happen then it makes them look like they just had it out to shed negative publicity on LCM and to discredit Coach Gonzales and Peevey.  LCM definitely didn’t handle this the right way, but if that’s all BC wanted to do then that’s wrong as well and two wrongs don’t make one right. But I don’t have a dog in this fight it’s just my simple observation. 
 

Where did you read a forfeiture was never a possibility? If they would have had more evidence, better quality video it could have been it sounds like from the hearing.

[setxathlete14]

Just now, LamarCard2011 said:

Where did you read a forfeiture was never a possibility? If they would have had more evidence, better quality video it could have been it sounds like from the hearing.

UIL mentioned that.

[setxathlete14]

54 minutes ago, Old Bald Man said:

Do any teams in this  district have a chance to win a game in round 1? Only if you host and only if you get Chapel Hill, all the others will be IN TROUBLE!

Very very little chance regardless lol

[TxHoops]

2 hours ago, bullets13 said:

no competitive disadvantage could be proven through a preponderance of evidence. Big difference that you guys need to learn. 

I think I could have worked with the preponderance of the evidence here.  Beyond a reasonable doubt, no way.  But convincing 10 of 12 laypeople shenanigans were at work from the video, I like my chances. 

[PhatMack19]

6 minutes ago, setxathlete14 said:

UIL mentioned that.

The district voted on the forfeiture.  The UIL went by what the district said.

[pine curtain]

BC is one of the last schools that should be pointing the finger about ethics.

[AshlyHasBeen]

12 minutes ago, marshman said:

I’ve read this week that a forfeiture wasn’t ever a real possibility so if that true I’m  left wondering why BC took it to this to this level? I completely understand the ethics issue and totally support that, but if the BC folks knew getting the game results overturned was not going to happen then it makes them look like they just had it out to shed negative publicity on LCM and to discredit Coach Gonzales and Peevey.  LCM definitely didn’t handle this the right way, but if that’s all BC wanted to do then that’s wrong as well and two wrongs don’t make one right. But I don’t have a dog in this fight it’s just my simple observation. 
 

The DEC voted to send the assistant coach to face the UIL because he did not follow procedures and turn in the watch immediately. An ethics violation. That's why they met today. The UIL mentioned that they were making a decision on personnel, but they also wanted to give their opinion on competitive advantage. They could not conclude that it made any difference in the outcome of the game. All members had all the video that was presented during the DEC to review before this morning. 

People have to remember that these meetings are also used to clarify things for the future and admitted that making a ruling on the outcome of the game after the DEC chose not to would lead us down a bumpy road. 

[ACTupp]

On 11/5/2025 at 4:12 PM, AggiesAreWe said:

Same

What was the incident?

[Mountain Goat]

4 hours ago, setxathlete14 said:

Someone help me here. I watched the entire thing. NOT 1 single time did BC bring up just wanting their watch back and/or ethical decision making or lack there of, recouping funds. Why they needed the watch back....

 

BCs ONLY discussion and complaint and commments were on lcm competitive advantage. And bringing up stats and their loss since we're talking about tones. Bc only wanted lcm forfeiture here. They didn't expound on anything else complaint wise.

BC responded to the questions that were directly asked to them by the UIL. 

[abPNUT]

Wow. I went to LCM until HS and now I'm ashamed. L-ie C-heat M-aybe-get-away-withal-it.

I saw theft IMHO

that's wrong

that's all I'm gonna say

[TxHoops]

Very interested to see how both of these teams perform tonight with everyone fighting for a share of the district title.  Not sure you could possibly have more distractions all the way around. 

[Tiger33]

35 minutes ago, abPNUT said:

Wow. I went to LCM until HS and now I'm ashamed. L-ie C-heat M-aybe-get-away-withal-it.

I saw theft IMHO

that's wrong

that's all I'm gonna say

One guy made a bad decision. To come to find out this is his second time maybe it’s time for him to find another school and reevaluate  his career. But for the most part LCM and community is good place. People/teams cheat on every level to gain the upper hand. 

[setxathlete14]

11 minutes ago, Tiger33 said:

One guy made a bad decision. To come to find out this is his second time maybe it’s time for him to find another school and reevaluate  his career. But for the most part LCM and community is good place. People/teams cheat on every level to gain the upper hand. 

Though technically wrong in this situation...I do believe lcm is better with him on the sidelines. Thats a pretty decent loss with him out imo. 

[Tiger33]

16 minutes ago, setxathlete14 said:

Though technically wrong in this situation...I do believe lcm is better with him on the sidelines. Thats a pretty decent loss with him out imo. 

He might be a great coach, but when you make ethical mistakes over and over again it’s time for a change. When a student has enough sense to hand it to an adult and the adult doesn’t have enough sense to give it to the proper chain of command there is an issue with that. Hunter was a good player at LCM and most likely wants to win at all cost. Thats why I said maybe he needs to go somewhere he is not so close too 

[TheMissingBand]

22 minutes ago, Tiger33 said:

He might be a great coach, but when you make ethical mistakes over and over again it’s time for a change. When a student has enough sense to hand it to an adult and the adult doesn’t have enough sense to give it to the proper chain of command there is an issue with that. Hunter was a good player at LCM and most likely wants to win at all cost. Thats why I said maybe he needs to go somewhere he is not so close too 

That’s kind of my point. I recognize that he’s just one man and responsible for his own actions.  
 

Keeping him on the staff means that it’s not just him, the HC/AD and administration ARE cut from the same cloth if they keep him around after two such incidents.  It’s a pattern. 
 

My opinion is that he locked his job down by taking the fall for the rest of the staff. Gonzales wasn’t hawking signals for himself and the offense.  The defensive staff was obviously in on it, too. I honestly thought Peevey was a good coach who wanted to take his talents back home, even if it meant he’d never make it back to Dallas (or out of the region, for that matter). Love for Alma mater over the gold ring-I respect that. Now I think he’s dirty. 

[Tiger33]

2 minutes ago, TheMissingBand said:

That’s kind of my point. I recognize that he’s just one man and responsible for his own actions.  
 

Keeping him on the staff means that it’s not just him, the HC/AD and administration ARE cut from the same cloth if they keep him around after two such incidents.  It’s a pattern. 
 

My opinion is that he locked his job down by taking the fall for the rest of the staff. Gonzales wasn’t hawking signals for himself and the offense.  The defensive staff was obviously in on it, too. I honestly thought Peevey was a good coach who wanted to take his talents back home, even if it meant he’d never make it back to Dallas (or out of the region, for that matter). Love for Alma mater over the gold ring-I respect that. Now I think he’s dirty. 

Peevy is Orangefield graduate. I do believe Peevy probably had no idea until after the game. They just did damage control after they found out because you would have to suspend the defensive coaches and most likely forfeit the game. 

[mat]

Terrible situation for the program. Poor decisions were made. However the degree that they are being called terriblecheaters may be a bit much. It’s not like they orchestrated a cheating scheme. If you’re a coach and it’s game time and the opponents plays fall in your lap, how many would actually take the high road? I’m not defending their actions or justifying anything. Just saying. The ruling was just.

[BEARCPA]

8 minutes ago, mat said:

Terrible situation for the program. Poor decisions were made. However the degree that they are being called terriblecheaters may be a bit much. It’s not like they orchestrated a cheating scheme. If you’re a coach and it’s game time and the opponents plays fall in your lap, how many would actually take the high road? I’m not defending their actions or justifying anything. Just saying. The ruling was just.

Agreed. Lots of people acting like it was a premeditated deal where they drove to BC, broke in to the football offices, and stole the watches. Premeditated or not, still a stain on the football team for not being up front about what happened

[Sabine River Pirate]

Did anyone believe the LCM HC today during the UIL meeting when he stated he didn't even know BC wore wrist bands for play calls ?

[bullets13]

10 minutes ago, BEARCPA said:

Agreed. Lots of people acting like it was a premeditated deal where they drove to BC, broke in to the football offices, and stole the watches. Premeditated or not, still a stain on the football team for not being up front about what happened

I will say this: when the player found that watch he looked like he knew exactly what he was expected to do with it, and it wasn’t to hand it to the ref. That struck me the first time I saw the video, and nothing that’s happened since has shaken my original impression. 

[Setxhasbeen]

1 minute ago, Sabine River Pirate said:

Did anyone believe the LCM HC today during the UIL meeting when he stated he didn't even know BC wore wrist bands for play calls ?

Coaches watch a stupid amount of film, everyone knows they wear em! Playing dumb i guess helps.