BC/LCM watch scandal?

[AggiesAreWe]

1 minute ago, bullets13 said:

May not have broken any rules, but that’s bush league. And any LCM fan acting like it wasn’t a major advantage, and quite likely the difference in the game is delusional. 

I can see that side of it. But keep this in mind:

The coach or coaches would have to know the terminology that BC uses for their play calling unless it's very basic terminology due to being high school players. Also, I am told the Offensive Co. doesn't send in play from tablet until just a few seconds before snap. That would be very difficult to get your defense ready for the play even if known right before the snap. It's very quick in real time.

Now I am not denying that some kind of advantage could have taken place. It just depends on how basic BC was with their terms and how quickly LC-M could pick up on it. 

[setxathlete14]

7 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I can see that side of it. But keep this in mind:

The coach or coaches would have to know the terminology that BC uses for their play calling unless it's very basic terminology due to being high school players. Also, I am told the Offensive Co. doesn't send in play from tablet until just a few seconds before snap. That would be very difficult to get your defense ready for the play even if known right before the snap. It's very quick in real time.

Now I am not denying that some kind of advantage could have taken place. It just depends on how basic BC was with their terms and how quickly LC-M could pick up on it. 

And were saying THE offensive coordinator relays the plays via watch? Personally every game I've seen its a standard play sheet and vocal or hand signals.

[AggiesAreWe]

1 minute ago, setxathlete14 said:

And were saying THE offensive coordinator relays the plays via watch? Personally every game I've seen its a standard play sheet and vocal or hand signals.

BC uses electronic wristbands or "watches". OC has a tablet and sends play to those devices. The offensive players wear these watch devices on their wrists. That was what was found on the field by an LC-M player and given to one of his coaches.

[Sabine River Pirate]

A lot of what ifs in that ... I'll just go with how the game played out . First half 17-0 LCM with BC play calls in hand .

 

Second half 16-7 BC against a watchless LCM Defensive Coordinator.

 

Another coincidence...that was probably the best half of football for the LCM defense this year.

[WOSdrummer99]

16 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

It just depends on how basic BC was with their terms and how quickly LC-M could pick up on it. 

Was told almost anyone would know what to do if they saw it.

[Lumbertonraider17]

No worse than stealing signs in baseball, BC fault for losing the device. No worse than coaches getting signals from teams on game film and if they don’t change it up it’s on them. Seems like BC is being petty to me. 

[AggiesAreWe]

Just now, WOSdrummer99 said:

Was told almost anyone would know what to do if they saw it.

I heard the same thing. Probably pretty basic.

But still, the timing is in question.

[marshman]

How did LC-M find this watch? Did a BC player lose it off his wrist but never knew it until almost halftime?

[AggiesAreWe]

1 minute ago, Lumbertonraider17 said:

No worse than stealing signs in baseball, BC fault for losing the device. No worse than coaches getting signals from teams on game film and if they don’t change it up it’s on them. Seems like BC is being petty to me. 

I cannot fault BC for loosing the device. When they realized one was missing, they then asked for it back. That's where LC-M dropped the ball in denying they even had the device even though game film afterwards showed they did indeed have it.

It's an ethics thing. Looks bad on LC-M part in claiming innocence of it all.

BC is not being petty at all in this instance.

[AggiesAreWe]

Just now, marshman said:

How did LC-M find this watch? Did a BC player lose it off his wrist but never knew it until almost halftime?

Lost it on the opening kickoff. Video (which I have personally seen) shows an LC-M player pick it up off the field and walk over to sideline and hand it to one of his coaches.

Player may have thought he left it in locker room. Not sure he was a starter or not.

[setxathlete14]

9 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I cannot fault BC for loosing the device. When they realized one was missing, they then asked for it back. That's where LC-M dropped the ball in denying they even had the device even though game film afterwards showed they did indeed have it.

It's an ethics thing. Looks bad on LC-M part in claiming innocence of it all.

BC is not being petty at all in this instance.

Absolutely correct here  im just curious what was bc looking to gain here bringing this situation to the table? I'd hate to be dragging this into multiple weeks preparation

[BLUE_LEFT_LEFT_ONE_ELEVEN]

21 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Lost it on the opening kickoff. Video (which I have personally seen) shows an LC-M player pick it up off the field and walk over to sideline and hand it to one of his coaches.

Player may have thought he left it in locker room. Not sure he was a starter or not.

It was not the opening kickoff, it was after LCM had the ball and scored on the opening possession. #14 lost the watch for BC. He is a backup tight end and only really plays on kickoff return. He didn’t report he had lost it to BC coaches until almost halftime. Guess he didn’t want to get in trouble for it falling off or he didn’t realize it was not on his wrist. The question was brought up why did he even have one on, when they only have 12 watches total (11 now, one is in cow bayou right by the old High Tides as you leave Bridge City 🤣) and he didn’t play an offensive snap in the game in question. The only thing LCM was found in violation of today was the offensive coach for LCM was found in violation of “code of ethics” for not giving the watch to a referee as soon as he received it. His punishment has not been determined, UIL will decide that later. Him being suspended a game is total speculation at this point. 
 

FYI: each watch is about $500 and the total system which comes with a tablet etc is 10k. But the term “watch” is not what Smalley calls them. His choice of word is “band”

[F150Dawgz]

1 hour ago, Sabine River Pirate said:

A lot of what ifs in that ... I'll just go with how the game played out . First half 17-0 LCM with BC play calls in hand .

 

Second half 16-7 BC against a watchless LCM Defensive Coordinator.

 

Another coincidence...that was probably the best half of football for the LCM defense this year.

I guess Huffman doesn’t wear watches.