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Do you have any idea how many schools need teachers right now? She and any other teacher could probably go wherever they want.

I’m on the fence.. simply because “slow playing” is often used as a means of strategy for high school teams that lack offensive abilities. I do believe a shot clock would help the game in many situations but make not so good basketball teams lose games by even more embarrassing numbers. Teams that have good teams and/or good players don’t hold the possession for longer than a shot clock period anyway.

It seems like folks don’t understand the costs of things. Typical.

Surely you jest. Remember.. he’s not athletic director. I’m not sure if he can hire anyone.. at all. Hopefully he’s at least in on the interviews and making suggestions. But..

More so than you think.

They missed 3A D2. They will never be 2AD1 with anything remotely close to the numbers they typically have.

Transferring for athletic purposes. That’s why those deemed to have done so are barred from varsity competition for 1 calendar year. It’s not difficult to get around, though.

I’m sure Art Briles would bring a championship by the time these JH kids graduate. Sorry.. I couldn’t even finish typing without laughing.

It happens everywhere. Bigger ISDs have the luxury of apartment complexes that can be a new "permanent address" at the drop of a hat. But it's not unique to the metroplex. What I have suggested previously is to make all transfers sit a calendar year regardless of the reason. That would hurt some but eliminate the illegal transfers. Anyway.. just my opinion.

Valid response.

Not arguing that.

In all seriousness.. SP could be a lot better in athletics because of Port Arthur. However, their priorities are Academic UIL and One Act Play.. So that’s the type of transfer they attract. Which is fine.. but if PA were utilized better they really could be competitive.

Hard to argue. There are some definite Honorable Mentions that could be in the argument. Gotta like WOS and Newton in terms of area football. A few East/North Tx football schools that'd be good are like Gilmer, Celina, Pilot Point, and Lake Travis. Just about any head coaching job include the likes of East Bernard and Brock. My personal favorite as far as where I might have wanted my kids to go to school in this day in age for a great sports experience would be either Aledo or Brock. Any sport.

There has to be potential down there, no question. But nothing that happens at lower levels guarantees anything in the future.

Only point I was trying to make.

The conversation has been had before, but.. the Benson Williams kid was a better player than Angel. Not taking anything away because they were both great players. Especially for that classification. Point still taken. He didn't win it all with them.. but people don't realize how many things have to go right in order to win it all. I'd still take Foster to captain the ship over anyone in the area.

This is not the first time I've seen/heard of youth or junior high football teams in Hardin having some ability. I've never one time seen it translate to varsity success.

I have no problem being called bro.. I'm probably a little old to be called that or call someone that. But, whatever. And it's not an argument. You are actually helping prove the point. Half of the schools you listed will never play Hardin in football. As if it matters anyway.. because I guarantee that a vast majority of the kids that play little league football in those schools won't represent the actual varsity players when those 12 year olds get to high school. And even the relative same sized schools isn't a good representative either. Saying that Hardin is talented as 6th graders because their 6th graders beat whoever's 6th graders is similar to claiming a kid will go pro because they pitched a no-hitter in the local little league. Assume those 12 year old kids possess some ability. They won't EVER play against only the kids in their same grade once they get to high school. When they're 9th graders, they get to play everybody's 9-12 graders. That's a huge difference. Especially considering the other schools will likely have more coaches, better facilities, and more transfers. I'm sorry, but predicting the future success based on what is seen in 6/7/8 grade simply won't do anything. I won a spelling competition in my 3rd grade class one time.. does that mean I should have been a national spelling bee champion? Not hardly.

I have never nor will ever believe that a few represent the whole.. but there were 100% multiple people on this site saying that TW would bring a title by a certain year. Maybe it was the same guy that created multiple accounts but it happened. Like you said, it doesn't matter now as it didn't then. I'll agree that having an experienced coach like TW was a great hire and BH definitely benefited from it. Best of luck in the future.

I'm aware.. bro.. but what are you basing their level of talent on? 12 year old kids don't play football against other 12 year old kids that they'll play against in high school. Not at all, actually. So.. who are the 12 year old football players from Hardin playing football against that you can say they're talented? 12 year olds from East Chambers? From Woodville? Anahuac? And the number of kids that move, fail, quit, stop growing, etc. between the ages of 12 and 18 makes your comment a little useless.

How can you tell that a group is talented in 6th grade?... And.. a whole lot changes between grades 6 and 12.

My apologies.

I said that my memory was sharp.. not my mind.

I get what you're saying.. I do. But.. how long has the school been in existence? The 40s I think I read one time.. and I'm pretty sure the football history is pretty pathetic. So, up to this point.. they either CAN'T compete or they WON'T do what it takes to compete. Am I wrong about that? There's no question that the girl's side is a local power house, but what successes have been had in football? I'm genuinely curious.

Nah.. I specifically remember the conversations on this very site about him right after the hire. There were most definitely multiple people with very unrealistic expectations. Including state titles by a certain year after his hire. I may be old but my memory's as sharp as ever..