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For weeks this has been going around. The only people I go through are Coach Faircloth and the superintendent. A LOT of information that has been stated as facts by some has been completely wrong during all this. Not specifically on message boards, but in the community. I think I'm up to seven or eight different guys that people "know for a fact" are the replacement coach. But the current coach as of this afternoon is still there. Until that changes we won't be reporting on it.

Fifteen years ago, Crosby and Barbers Hill were in different districts that were much less competitive than the modern day 22-5ADII. And as I recall, both schools were getting thumped by PN-G in both predistrict play and the playoffs. I recall Crosby losing 37-7 one year and 38-7 the next, and Barbers Hill losing to PN-G five consecutive times over four seasons. Fast forward to today, when both schools have 300+ students more than PN-G, a ton more upscale subdivisions in town and at least in Barbers Hill's case, lots of nice, new facilities and cash to spend on coaches from Allen, and it's a different story. If there was a program that we can legitimately say was punching above its weight class back then, it was Dayton. Look at them now.

Likely something along the lines that led to us having 20 cheerleaders and everyone makes NDNettes. Parents are soft. Kids are soft. If they are not good enough parents complain. Post on Facebook and get the PN rumor mill flowing. Before too long we will have STJFL rules where every kid gets at least 10 plays.

Trump Won!

People on the neighborhood watch are typically people who do not care about sports. They care about minding the gap at DQ. What just blew up and whose dogs are out running around. I would estimate we have roughly 5,000 fans show up to the game on Friday nights. Ten to fifteen percent of those leave after half time. Some are students and others are just there to socialize. I would say out of those 5,000 maybe 500 care enough to even know who all the coaches are. Now take that number and look at how many of those have a friend on the board or in admin. Then you see that there is a very small group that actually cares enough about football, the team moving forward and don't have a tie in that could cause grief by making a post and you have your answer why there is nothing on Facebook yet. I have heard so much speculation but nobody has the balls to post what is really going on. After the fact is too late to start spilling the truth. So here is a running list of the rumors I have heard. 1. His defensive coaches don't like him because he steals all the talent for offense. 2. The old guard group don't like him because he didn't hire PN-G guys when he first came in and treated some of the older guys with no respect. 3. He doesn't play board members kids enough. 4. Admin don't like him because he asks for too much. 5. He plays favorites and allows the better players to slide and makes examples of the lesser players. (This is a PNGISD problem) If your parents are tied in with the right friends your kids don't go to ISS or get reprimanded for the same issues other students do. 6. He voted for Joe Biden. (I don't know that but I might as well add my own stupid rumor)

The fact that it isn't on the All Things Nederland Facebook group makes me skeptical..lol

I got silsbee by 5

This is a must see for me. I think the young Tigers can upset IF and that's a BIG ALL CAPS IF they hit their 3's. Either way great game to watch, I'll have my bag of pop corn.

Looks like to me, All Crosbie needs to do is stay with a game plan. Eye on the prize (ball). Let LH make the mistakes. Geaux Cougs.

They already have who they want on stand-by. It doesn’t matter who applies. And if you’re in the know, you know who it is.

Faircloth leaves no good coach is going to want the job if after going 3 rounds deep you don't get renewed with that talent pool.

Silsbee trending in the right direction, but BU is capable of beating them by 25. No shame in that, either. If Silsbee wins it’ll be a shocker, with or without arceneaux

Fannett should have lost to Orangefield and got destroyed by Nederland. That's top 10 to you? I think Lumberton is closer to being ranked than Fannett when they get all there players healthy.

Where are the petitions?? Where is the outraged community?? I haven't seen this in any groups on Facebook. Nobody can cause a stink like the PNG community can. You don't like the cross in the park, we'll put thousands of crosses out. You don't like our mascot, we'll spell out INDIAN and Scalp'em on the football field with the band. And so on. Nobody is up in arms over this.

And I will add, I've never heard a negative comment about our Director. He is the best. And the Indianettes were awesome this season.

I think she said in a long winded way, the American ambassador of China does not get free tickets to the Olympics.

Good question, by maxpreps not one team that they have beaten has a winning record about the best record was 4-6. Three of them had no wins. They did beat that same St. Thomas Episcopal that we beat by 16. Episcopal does have a 5-6 record, so a little better than that 4-6.

I'm not near as nervous as last year. Last year I thought we had virtually no chance of stopping them, that offense was a machine. They're just not as potent this year. I also have more confidence in our new DC this year, Coach Poth would've called a shutout in a regional final if our dbs would get their heads around to the ball. I don't think we're better in the front seven than last year but I do think we have more of an advantage in general than last year. We actually did pretty well against their offense early on before they started throwing it on us which is what I would imaging they're working on this week too. On the offensive side of the ball I think our coaches are licking their chops. LH's defense isn't just bad, it's pretty awful. Their offense is their best defense. If Rouse or AH had any type of running game they would've both dropped 50+ on LH. I think Jones and Myles are going to have all types of space to run in and you can look at the passing numbers against them the last couple of weeks and see their dbs/scheme are very conducive to actually covering people. Long as we play clean I don't think LH's defense is going to have much success against us at all. Plus, time after time it's being proven that our coaching staff is better than what's across the field from them.

I don’t think it has anything to do with kids seeing the field. As stated above, one of those kids started/saw significant time playing and the other was on special teams and also saw playing time. Both of those members are not the type to go looking for a man’s job. Something else seems to be a foot here.

If Saban was available, Barbers Hill would have already paid him.

Let’s Go Brandon!! FJB!!

I believe Joe Dale Cary was 36-31 as head coach at 4A Crandall for 6 years & 4-6 last year as head coach of 4A Hondo, 5 out of 7 years making playoffs, that comes out to a 40-37 record in 4A. Langston went 5-5 last year in his 1st year as Westbrook head coach, no playoffs. Faircloth is 102-51 as PNG head coach & 12 playoff appearances out of 13 years. Love him or hate him the fact is he wins 67% of the games coaching at PNG & goes 2 or more rounds deep into the playoffs like 90% of the time. Renew that mans contract.

I hope the game is injury free and as good as all the hype and lip service- lace them up and and dont take it "A-W" personal...."Harlem Nights" LoL !! 409 strong....Free BBQ Crow at the door on your way out. LoL....Dropped the mic...

Silsbee with the upset with Terrance sidelined 👀

Yes, that thread is a mess. I thought rumors/speculation was against site rules?

Very Creative.

Facts !

Enough of the moral victories stuff , we taking over tonight !!!! Let’s go!!!!!!!

I always sit on the Silsbee side. I am a fan of those young Tigers. I just think United has too much fire power.

Lot's of history in both of those old gyms. EC old gym didn't even have A/C but the atmosphere was great!!!

7. Lying to your boss.

Ok thanks for the non answer. I'll try to find "facts" somewhere else.

Without Arceneaux it'll be another close game especially if those 3's are falling for Silsbee. Again jmo...

There's more to lose than gain playing a less than 100% Arceneaux vs Silsbee. District starts Dec.18 that would be the Appropriate time to bring him back. No style points are needed just get the "W" LoL jmo....

No

I’ll fix and update tomorrow.

Not the bears I am talking about.

I know I’m right !

Aint a bad one in the bunch !

It amazes me that I’ve heard only good things about our current board and admin until now. I personally know and am friends with several of these guys and there straight up awesome dudes. I’m not gonna comment about the coach situation until we know one way or the other what is going on. I will say there’s some people here smearing good people that volunteer there time to make out district great and its pissing me off. To say you’ll boycott there business is ridiculous. I’ll put my name to my posts in due time I hope some of you tough guys willing to do the same.

I’m always on the side of less action from our government.

I was a band parent, mine graduated this year. I've never been apart of a more supportive group. The band is huge. It takes a lot. The band gets the visitor concessions. The only time that side is packed is MCM.

But in this case, they did (apparently) follow the law. Part of “the law” is court rulings. The United States Constitution in Article III says that if there is a constitutional question, the Supreme Court of the United States is the final answer. The SC has yet to throw out those seizure laws.

Not UNTIL the facts are actually known!!

This starting to sound like a nightmare.

Both of those players have seen the field. I've seen one on Special teams, and his Dad isn't the type to do something petty like this. The other kid has seen the field also, on defense. Can't see his dad doing this either. Coach Faircloths own son doesn't see the field every play either. Sooooo, I don't know.....if he does leave, I'm going to miss those high octane offenses of his. PAM should scoop him up. Can you imagine what he could do with those athletes on offense.

Hey Drew, the refugio/shiner game should be a freebie for everyone because it was played on thursday night, and then several more people made their pickems friday. If this is the case, I should be at 23, and several others would move up a spot. @AggiesAreWe isn't this correct?

Nick Saban's not for sale. Texas learned that lesson the hard way. These rumors of Coach Fairlcoth's possible departure are disturbing. The kind of disturbing that lures a long-dormant messageboard user out of hibernation the same night his college alma mater wins a conference title over the #1 team in the country. I know very little regarding Coach Faircloth's future at PN-G from firsthand knowledge. Generally, I avoid spreading rumors when I don't know the information to be accurate from firsthand knowledge, and on the occasions when I think it's necessary to discuss those rumors, I always make certain to note that I can't speak to their actual veracity. This is one of those occasions. Simply put, I have no idea whether it's true that Coach Faircloth's position at PN-G is in jeopardy. Here's what I do know. I first heard word that Coach Faircloth's tenure at PN-G may be at risk six weeks ago. I've heard several different iterations of that rumor in the weeks since. I trust, and deeply respect, many of the sources that have brought these rumors to my attention, but in each case, those sources have only been able to provide me with information on a secondhand basis. What little direct evidence I've been able to glean for myself has, if anything, contradicted rumors of Faircloth's impending departure, or at least rumors that the school board has chosen not to renew his contract. For these reasons, and in light of a highly successful 2021 football season that saw the Indians exceed all expectation, I've been highly skeptical of these rumors, and have deliberately chosen only to discuss them when someone else brings them up. I remain skeptical of these rumors now, though I'll admit to some concern in the face of their apparent durability and, now, their growing prevalence among PN-G fans. Brandon Faircloth has been the best head football coach and athletic director PN-G has had in at least 40 years. That is not a statement I make lightly; the evidence is overwhelming. PN-G's all-time win ratio on the football field is .610. Coach Faircloth's win ratio at PN-G is .667, the best of any PN-G coach since Danny Malone. The Indians currently have an active playoff streak stretching back nine consecutive appearances, an all-time school record. The Indians have gone three rounds deep in the playoffs four of the last six seasons, the most consistent streak of deep playoff runs PN-G has had since Doug Ethridge's tenure at PN-G in the 1970s. Coach Faircloth has both more wins and more playoff appearances to his name than any football coach in PN-G history. Statistically speaking, the indisputable best quarterback in PN-G history, several runners-up at the quarterback position, the indisputable best receiver in PN-G history, several runners-up at that position, two of the best runningbacks in PN-G history, and perhaps the best kicker in PN-G history have all been coached by Brandon Faircloth. The best offenses to ever play for PN-G have been coached by Brandon Faircloth, and one of the best defenses in school history was coached by him as well. Coach Faircloth has fielded one of the only four PN-G players in school history to earn All-American honors. He's coached a school record 39 players to achieve All-State honors - fifteen more than Coach Ethridge. Dozens of PN-G players have simultaneously earned academic honors. Coach Faircloth has sent more football players on to play college ball than any coach in PN-G history. Roschon Johnson, Blake Bost, Adam Morse, Tate Sandell - the list goes on. You can verify all of these statistics and all of these facts on our outstanding fan-made website, www.pngindians.com. The lone accomplishment claimed by other PN-G coaches that has eluded Coach Faircloth as a head coach is a state championship appearance. No Golden Triangle team in the same classification as PN-G (4A prior to 2014, 5A since then) has made a state championship appearance since West Orange-Stark in 2000. Take this from a die-hard PN-G native turned reluctant Austin-area resident: the amount of wealth, funding, resources and talent concentrated in suburban Texas football programs far and away exceeds anything small town schools like PN-G are able to amass, and even exceeds what PN-G was able to pull together in the days before Robin Hood. Given the amount of money he threw into Highland Park's program, there's an argument to be made that Jerry Jones effectively bought his grandson a state championship. Schools like Westlake, Lake Travis, Cedar Park, Austin Vandegrift, Euless Trinity, Southlake Carroll, Aledo and Katy Cinco Ranch have backing from dozens of multi-millionaires, professional players, coaches and trainers alike, and in some cases, literal billionaires. This was not the case in the 1950s, the 1970s or the 1990s. The reason that you see programs like Crosby and Barbers Hill on the rise is because they're rapidly becoming suburban programs with that kind of cash on hand. The days of the upper level classifications in Texas high school football (i.e., the 6A and 5A divisions) being dominated by rural schools like PN-G, Odessa Permian, Tyler Lee, Waco Midway and the like are, at least for the moment, gone. The fact that Coach Faircloth has managed to keep PN-G competitive despite our area's relative disadvantage is a testament to his coaching prowess in and of itself. Moreover, Coach Faircloth's accomplishments are not limited to his coaching on the football field. As athletic director, it was Brandon Faircloth who made the brilliant decision to hire Coach Carter as head baseball coach. Coach Carter brought PN-G its first state title in baseball just four years ago. If I'm not mistaken, that also constituted PN-G's first state title in any sport since Coach Comeaux's last state championship run with the Rock-a-Noos in 1989. In the Faircloth era, both the boys' and girls' soccer teams have repeatedly made deep playoff runs, ending several seasons on the cusp of the state tournament. Our basketball teams, consistently PN-G's least successful athletic programs, have found their way to the playoffs. Our success in track and field has improved tremendously. To put it succinctly, the last time PN-G experienced the level of athletic success across the board that it has had with Brandon Faircloth in the fieldhouse, I wasn't born yet. I know and respect several members of the PN-GISD administration and school board; in truth, my skepticism of these rumors is partly based on my faith in their ability to exercise good judgment. I went to school with Jake Lefort's son and Dallon James's younger sisters. I've shared lunch with Lana Parker. Scott Ryan was my assistant principal in middle school. I went to church with Jon Deckert and his family for several years. Julie Gauthier has been a workhorse for both PN-GISD and the City of Port Neches, and the fruits of her labors are demonstrable. I have been very pleased with their leadership the last several years. The PN-G community is two years or less away from all new elementary schools in the district, only ten years after replacing both middle schools and the stadium, and completely renovating the high school. In my opinion, PN-GISD made the best decisions of any school district in the state with respect to its COVID response, and navigated all the controversies of 2020 as best as anyone could expect. From cybersecurity breaches to explosions to hurricanes to freezes, the district's leadership has repeatedly shown its ability to maintain a high quality of education despite substantially greater adversity than anything the rest of the state has had to contend with. The district is in good fiscal shape, and has shown sustained success in non-athletic extracurricular pursuits, including the band, which is obviously of particular significance to me. The district also secured excellent ratings in all the state's academic metrics prior to COVID, and has consistently been rated one of the best school districts in the state in independent studies conducted by third party entities. Personally, I take immense pride in the fact that PN-GISD actually outscored Austin's best local school district by a point in the state's scoring system in 2019. There's no doubt in my mind PN-G continues to offer the best public education you can find anywhere in this state east of IH-45. Speaking from personal experience, Austin's policy circles are familiar with the district's strong reputation. But if my skepticism of these rumors is misplaced, and if it is in fact the case that in spite of Coach Faircloth's clear, undeniable accolades and accomplishments, either PN-GISD will decline to renew Coach Faircloth's contract, or Coach Faircloth will voluntarily leave PN-GISD under pressure from the school board or administration, it will be the first time in several years that I've had good reason to reconsider the faith I have in the party or parties responsible for his departure. Forcing Coach Faircloth's ouster, whether directly or through indirect means, would reflect a severe error in judgment which would have consequences for PN-G students for generations to come - a mistake even worse than running off Danny Malone, which will likely result in similar or worse consequences, and the same lingering shame and regret. To say nothing of losing Coach Faircloth's demonstrated ability to develop successful PN-G athletes and programming, it would also clearly signal to any potential replacement that a three round playoff run capping off thirteen years of unquestionably and consistently successful leadership is not enough to satisfy the powers that be at PN-G, or worse yet, to overcome local political grudges. Ending Coach Faircloth's tenure prematurely would be a grave disservice to the PN-G community and, more importantly, its kids. I have no doubt whatsoever that I am not the only member of the PN-G community who feels this way. For PN-G's sake, here's hoping these rumors are nothing more than idle gossip. Scalp 'em, Indians.

Man I dont like this at all

Sorry Joe, I forgot about your season last year. I wouldn’t want to live in Hondo either