Port Neches-Groves vs. South Oak Cliff Predictions

[BBtater984]

On 12/1/2025 at 9:33 AM, Stattrax said:

Im backkkk… just for a post or two. SOC, Randle, and IC, to me, are the top tier teams in the classification. I think we fall into tier 2. Does that mean we can’t win, no…. But it will take a perfect game and pull it out in the end type of situation. I will say this. And I’m a life long PNG fan. I have never seen more ignorance, racism, and utter negativity in my life from the PNG fans. From the crying about open enrollment, gloves, region, coaching, etc…. Suit up and play the game and see what happens. But speak with some football IQ folks. We are in the quarters. A undefeated season so far, great coaching staff, and good little  team. Have a QB, RB, and 2 WR, coming back next year. Versus all the negativity, shoot out some positive thoughts. 

Huh...???

[png9mon]

Any news on the ticket sales.  The link on PNG Athletics site takes you to the Bryan ISD ticket site and our game is not listed.

[FearTheSpear]

4 hours ago, Half Indian/Wildcat said:

I agree with your assessment of what you just text but since the La Porte game every single team has done the same thing against us defensively which is play man to man on our receivers and put every other available player in the box and run blitz on every single play. So when you have 8 in the box and one 6 lineman and HB to block for the RB you leave 2 players completely unblocked nearly every single play. High school coaches struggle to come up with ways to off set this. And our offensive coordinator and staff definitely struggled last week to come up with anything that worked. Go back and watch the 2023 state game against SOC and see how we schemed against them and hit repeatedly. We ran with a Sophomore QB option plays to the outside edge of the line of scrimmage which aided the inside trap plays, we ran wide receiver screens, crossing routes to receivers, screens to the RB and threw over the top to stretch the field and make the defense make plays 1 on 1 and we had success. Ashworth has athleticism use it this week because if our offense plays like it did against MH we will not advance past this game. And use the HB in the offense they rarely get covered because we never throw the ball to them. Run some RPO plays and hit the HB IN between the line of scrimmage and the safety when they are blitzing their LB on every play it’s wide open. Their is no help in the zone that they will receive the pass in and it’s a quick pass that can devestate a defensive. Our CB have to not let WR get behind them we have given up to many big plays the last couple of weeks and don’t need to. Our run defense has been very good all year but they have to make plays and get off the field and not let SOC have 10 -12 play drives that wear us down. Offensively control the clock be aggressive against their pressure and don’t be afraid to take chances down the field . Special teams will play a huge part in this game and the crowd needs to bring energy that the players feed off of. SOC is #1 because they earned it but they was #1 every time we have played them . Looking for a great game and atmosphere for high school football and praying that neither team comes out of it with any injuries because we have had way more than our share of injuries this season. Good luck to both teams and let the best team win.

This is the best post I’ve seen.  Bravo 👏.  If you see it, I see it, other fans see it, hopefully the OC sees it.  

[jayhawk]

5 hours ago, Half Indian/Wildcat said:

I agree with your assessment of what you just text but since the La Porte game every single team has done the same thing against us defensively which is play man to man on our receivers and put every other available player in the box and run blitz on every single play. So when you have 8 in the box and one 6 lineman and HB to block for the RB you leave 2 players completely unblocked nearly every single play. High school coaches struggle to come up with ways to off set this. And our offensive coordinator and staff definitely struggled last week to come up with anything that worked. Go back and watch the 2023 state game against SOC and see how we schemed against them and hit repeatedly. We ran with a Sophomore QB option plays to the outside edge of the line of scrimmage which aided the inside trap plays, we ran wide receiver screens, crossing routes to receivers, screens to the RB and threw over the top to stretch the field and make the defense make plays 1 on 1 and we had success. Ashworth has athleticism use it this week because if our offense plays like it did against MH we will not advance past this game. And use the HB in the offense they rarely get covered because we never throw the ball to them. Run some RPO plays and hit the HB IN between the line of scrimmage and the safety when they are blitzing their LB on every play it’s wide open. Their is no help in the zone that they will receive the pass in and it’s a quick pass that can devestate a defensive. Our CB have to not let WR get behind them we have given up to many big plays the last couple of weeks and don’t need to. Our run defense has been very good all year but they have to make plays and get off the field and not let SOC have 10 -12 play drives that wear us down. Offensively control the clock be aggressive against their pressure and don’t be afraid to take chances down the field . Special teams will play a huge part in this game and the crowd needs to bring energy that the players feed off of. SOC is #1 because they earned it but they was #1 every time we have played them . Looking for a great game and atmosphere for high school football and praying that neither team comes out of it with any injuries because we have had way more than our share of injuries this season. Good luck to both teams and let the best team win.

Iam a Dayton fan but wanted to say that was a very good  analytical take on the game Good luck PNG!

[png9mon]

2 hours ago, png9mon said:

Any news on the ticket sales.  The link on PNG Athletics site takes you to the Bryan ISD ticket site and our game is not listed.

Ticket Link is up on PNG Athletics site for game.

[NHSBulldogFan]

On 12/1/2025 at 9:33 AM, Stattrax said:

Im backkkk… just for a post or two. SOC, Randle, and IC, to me, are the top tier teams in the classification. I think we fall into tier 2. Does that mean we can’t win, no…. But it will take a perfect game and pull it out in the end type of situation. I will say this. And I’m a life long PNG fan. I have never seen more ignorance, racism, and utter negativity in my life from the PNG fans. From the crying about open enrollment, gloves, region, coaching, etc…. Suit up and play the game and see what happens. But speak with some football IQ folks. We are in the quarters. A undefeated season so far, great coaching staff, and good little  team. Have a QB, RB, and 2 WR, coming back next year. Versus all the negativity, shoot out some positive thoughts. 

Open enrollment and gloves are legitimate gripes i think the UIL will address those issues eventually...PN-G has a couple of offensive lineman coming back in addition to what you mentioned and that's not including the defense PN-G will be good again next year 

[NHSBulldogFan]

7 hours ago, Half Indian/Wildcat said:

I agree with your assessment of what you just text but since the La Porte game every single team has done the same thing against us defensively which is play man to man on our receivers and put every other available player in the box and run blitz on every single play. So when you have 8 in the box and one 6 lineman and HB to block for the RB you leave 2 players completely unblocked nearly every single play. High school coaches struggle to come up with ways to off set this. And our offensive coordinator and staff definitely struggled last week to come up with anything that worked. Go back and watch the 2023 state game against SOC and see how we schemed against them and hit repeatedly. We ran with a Sophomore QB option plays to the outside edge of the line of scrimmage which aided the inside trap plays, we ran wide receiver screens, crossing routes to receivers, screens to the RB and threw over the top to stretch the field and make the defense make plays 1 on 1 and we had success. Ashworth has athleticism use it this week because if our offense plays like it did against MH we will not advance past this game. And use the HB in the offense they rarely get covered because we never throw the ball to them. Run some RPO plays and hit the HB IN between the line of scrimmage and the safety when they are blitzing their LB on every play it’s wide open. Their is no help in the zone that they will receive the pass in and it’s a quick pass that can devestate a defensive. Our CB have to not let WR get behind them we have given up to many big plays the last couple of weeks and don’t need to. Our run defense has been very good all year but they have to make plays and get off the field and not let SOC have 10 -12 play drives that wear us down. Offensively control the clock be aggressive against their pressure and don’t be afraid to take chances down the field . Special teams will play a huge part in this game and the crowd needs to bring energy that the players feed off of. SOC is #1 because they earned it but they was #1 every time we have played them . Looking for a great game and atmosphere for high school football and praying that neither team comes out of it with any injuries because we have had way more than our share of injuries this season. Good luck to both teams and let the best team win.

If you looked at the scoreboard of the state championship game in 2023 you wouldn't have thought PN-G did much offensively but it was a master class of offensive genius with the scheme you mentioned it was just much harder to get scores down inside the 20 because the safeties for SOC were able to play closer to the LOS Terrell had this same issue last week 

[aki1994]

On 12/1/2025 at 9:33 AM, Stattrax said:

Im backkkk… just for a post or two. SOC, Randle, and IC, to me, are the top tier teams in the classification. I think we fall into tier 2. Does that mean we can’t win, no…. But it will take a perfect game and pull it out in the end type of situation. I will say this. And I’m a life long PNG fan. I have never seen more ignorance, racism, and utter negativity in my life from the PNG fans. From the crying about open enrollment, gloves, region, coaching, etc…. Suit up and play the game and see what happens. But speak with some football IQ folks. We are in the quarters. A undefeated season so far, great coaching staff, and good little  team. Have a QB, RB, and 2 WR, coming back next year. Versus all the negativity, shoot out some positive thoughts. 

Just a slight correction.

Offense will have:

QB - Ashworth

RB - Henry

WR - Gohlke, Jackson, Benkert

HB - Romero, Hansing

OL - Reeves, Mattney

 

Defense will have:

DL - Trevino, Faul

OLB - Satcher, Flores, Phelps

ILB - P.A. Ross

CB - Malveaux

S - McLeod, Valcin

[Matthew328]

I am surprised this thread has been somewhat quiet...either PNG fans are worried or they know their team is laying in the weeds like 2023 ready to shock the state

[CS.]

1 hour ago, Matthew328 said:

I am surprised this thread has been somewhat quiet...either PNG fans are worried or they know their team is laying in the weeds like 2023 ready to shock the state

What else are we supposed to say honestly?  You guys (I love your stuff, no kidding) but you promote and glorify teams along with the UIL who gain advantages.  Everyone knows what's coming and it's extremely difficult to compete with it.  And somehow it's "racist" to bring up recruiting?  Still haven't figured that one out.  It is what it is man.  The rules are there that allow it currently but it doesn't impress me.  They have the most transfers in the state.  That should not be allowed OR the school should be able to do it if they move up to a much higher classification.  It's common sense to most but not all for some reason.  Crown them.  We are still coming, and we are bringing hell with us.  

[WOSdrummer99]

Flashback to 2023 and the OT win vs WOS. Never doubt a sophomore PNG QB

[AggiesAreWe]

DCTF has SOC a 2 point favorite.

[Guest AledoAlumni]

4 hours ago, CS. said:

What else are we supposed to say honestly?  You guys (I love your stuff, no kidding) but you promote and glorify teams along with the UIL who gain advantages.  Everyone knows what's coming and it's extremely difficult to compete with it.  And somehow it's "racist" to bring up recruiting?  Still haven't figured that one out.  It is what it is man.  The rules are there that allow it currently but it doesn't impress me.  They have the most transfers in the state.  That should not be allowed OR the school should be able to do it if they move up to a much higher classification.  It's common sense to most but not all for some reason.  Crown them.  We are still coming, and we are bringing hell with us.  

Are you PNG93 on the smoaky forum? Regardless, hope Oak Cliff rolls yall. 

[PNG4LIFE91]

5 hours ago, Matthew328 said:

I am surprised this thread has been somewhat quiet...either PNG fans are worried or they know their team is laying in the weeds like 2023 ready to shock the state

I’d say it’s a bit of both!  

[aki1994]

2 hours ago, AledoAlumni said:

Are you PNG93 on the smoaky forum? Regardless, hope Oak Cliff rolls yall. 

🙃

Edited December 4, 2025 by WOSdrummer99
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[1970]

What a classy thread. Classy. 

[CS.]

2 hours ago, AledoAlumni said:

Are you PNG93 on the smoaky forum? Regardless, hope Oak Cliff rolls yall. 

Are you trying to date me bro?

[Guest AledoAlumni]

41 minutes ago, CS. said:

Are you trying to date me bro?

Negative. Just seemed like the same tone of post, so I just thought I would ask. 

[Matthew328]

8 hours ago, CS. said:

What else are we supposed to say honestly?  You guys (I love your stuff, no kidding) but you promote and glorify teams along with the UIL who gain advantages.  Everyone knows what's coming and it's extremely difficult to compete with it.  And somehow it's "racist" to bring up recruiting?  Still haven't figured that one out.  It is what it is man.  The rules are there that allow it currently but it doesn't impress me.  They have the most transfers in the state.  That should not be allowed OR the school should be able to do it if they move up to a much higher classification.  It's common sense to most but not all for some reason.  Crown them.  We are still coming, and we are bringing hell with us.  

JMO but I dont like any public school thats open enrollment, but when the charters came in and the political parties and politicians at the time wanted this system probably because it lined their pockets...but once charters etc came into being the UIL was left IMO with antiquated rules that dont apply into today's world...but thats another topic for another day...

Just found it interesting how much more talk PNG-SOC had last year vs this year, even on the Dallas-centric forums....maybe folks are getting PNG-SOC fatigue....I said it on TepAndStepp I think it's a much more competitive game this year....

[navydawg31]

1 hour ago, Matthew328 said:

JMO but I dont like any public school thats open enrollment, but when the charters came in and the political parties and politicians at the time wanted this system probably because it lined their pockets...but once charters etc came into being the UIL was left IMO with antiquated rules that dont apply into today's world...but thats another topic for another day...

Just found it interesting how much more talk PNG-SOC had last year vs this year, even on the Dallas-centric forums....maybe folks are getting PNG-SOC fatigue....I said it on TepAndStepp I think it's a much more competitive game this year....

They are and for that reason I hope UIL moves PNG and Nederland back to Reg 3… no reason to be playing DFW schools in bidistrict or this early in the playoffs…

[Boyz N Da Hood]

Cliff 21+.... Randle only team that can beat em JMO...

[cal81]

PN-G nearly beat SOC in 2022, did beat them in 2023 so there is no reason to think the Indians won't beat them in 2025.

[1970]

1 hour ago, cal81 said:

PN-G nearly beat SOC in 2022, did beat them in 2023 so there is no reason to think the Indians won't beat them in 2025.

Except that PNG has some key injuries, a Soph QB (although very talented, apparently), and SOC is stacked.  I do believe that PNG will hold their own better than last season; and who knows, anything can happen. Anyway, tomorrow is game time, so we will all see.  Today the special teams for both are probably getting some extra work, and the receivers are running routes. 

[BBtater984]

13 hours ago, CS. said:

Are you trying to date me bro?

In Aledo they usually date things with four legs. 

[cal81]

No excuses.  Next man up.  11 on 11.