West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED

[WOSdrummer99]

37 minutes ago, wo-s#1 said:

I thought Hebert was DL coach,he must just coach Defensive Ends?

I went back and looked at the previews, Hebert was ends coach

[Morris_era]

2 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

I went back and looked at the previews, Hebert was ends coach

While Coach T was there he is the only one that’s going to coach LB’s

[SmashMouth]

On 1/15/2022 at 1:36 PM, WOS1986 said:

It is wrong because most applications tend to include qualifications such as head coach experience. 

Hickman- no experience and not loyal or passion with Mustangs way plus will not stay longer. Does he really dream this job? No I don't think so.

Toby- yes experience and very loyal or passion with Mustangs way plus will stay long time. Does he really dream this job? Yes for sure. 

That is big difference and picture.

I really hope that Orange community do something since they paid the taxes. They have to right and speak out.

Something is not right and fishy to me.

If Hickman is who Coach T wants, then why do you have an issue? Do you know for a fact that he is not passionate about this opportunity? Do you know for a fact this isn’t his dream job? The only thing you said that is factual is that he lacks head coach experience. 

[tvc184]

2 hours ago, SmashMouth said:

If Hickman is who Coach T wants, then why do you have an issue? Do you know for a fact that he is not passionate about this opportunity? Do you know for a fact this isn’t his dream job? The only thing you said that is factual is that he lacks head coach experience. 

I have spent some time studying this subject and I can say with 100% certainty, every head football coach at any level, never held a head coaching position before he was selected the first time. 

[purpleeagle]

Would it not be something if the list came out and Toby was not on the list.

 

[WOSdrummer99]

1 hour ago, purpleeagle said:

Would it not be something if the list came out and Toby was not on the list.

 

Maybe. Since we're thowing hypotheticals out there to see what sticks... What if he's on a different list for a rival school?

[purpleeagle]

Wos1986 would have a heart attack.

[idk]

Good God would they please hurry up with this hire. lol, 23 pages. Yes I know I can just hit the back button, but it is kinda like a train wreck you just can't not look. 

[tvc184]

4 minutes ago, idk said:

Good God would they please hurry up with this hire. lol, 23 pages. Yes I know I can just hit the back button, but it is kinda like a train wreck you just can't not look. 

Watch what happens if it’s not the coach that  “the community wants”.

It will be another 23 pages of…….

[wo-s#1]

2 hours ago, tvc184 said:

Watch what happens if it’s not the coach that  “the community wants”.

It will be another 23 pages of…….

I guess it happens that way when you’re the best program around,everybody is on the edge of their seat waiting to see which way WOS will go!

[DP#1FAN]

Jack Alvarez would be a interesting candidate.

[idk]

I do have a serious question. We all know that WOS has a storied program. That is not a question and we all know that most (not all) of the community wants Toby (that too is not a question). We hear about keeping the tradition going and that also is important. I am asking wouldn't it be a lot important to get a guy who will take WOS to the next level (as in a Carthage), not just keep the tradition alive?

[wo-s#1]

44 minutes ago, idk said:

I do have a serious question. We all know that WOS has a storied program. That is not a question and we all know that most (not all) of the community wants Toby (that too is not a question). We hear about keeping the tradition going and that also is important. I am asking wouldn't it be a lot important to get a guy who will take WOS to the next level (as in a Carthage), not just keep the tradition alive?

Defense wise idk…Offense wise,that’s Toby…overall there’s no telling with whoever gets it!

[tvc184]

6 hours ago, wo-s#1 said:

I guess it happens that way when you’re the best program around,everybody is on the edge of their seat waiting to see which way WOS will go!

Really just which way the thread will go…..  

[WOSdrummer99]

1 hour ago, tvc184 said:

Really just which way the thread will go…..  

30k views and counting

[oldschool2]

15 hours ago, tvc184 said:

Really just which way the thread will go…..  

Unless there is just a mass exodus of students.. WOS will remain locally dominant at least I'm guessing. Newton went through two great coaches and is still Newton. The kids just traditionally have more than everyone else in their respective classification/area.  WOS will do the same.

[Mr. Thornton Melon]

We wouldn't know if WO-S made a bad hire until they got to the playoffs because the district isn't that competitive  . The Stangs could probably win district without a coach

[Mr. Thornton Melon]

23 hours ago, DP#1FAN said:

Jack Alvarez would be a interesting candidate.

It would be hard not to pick him if he were in the running. I just couldn't see passing on the opportunity to get a great coach like that

[One4All]

Well I definitely can say that the superintendent and school board( Majority)  aren't seeing  eye to eye own this hire 

[wo-s#1]

15 minutes ago, One4All said:

Well I definitely can say that the superintendent and school board( Majority)  aren't seeing  eye to eye own this hire 

And it’s safe to say the referral and help from Cornel to hire the best is irrelevant also!

[CardinalBacker]

I'm not gonna lie... I was completely surprised that we didn't have an announcement yesterday on MLK Day.

 

Winning football games is nice, but when you have the chance to right the wrongs of the past 400 years, you hire the black coach. 

 

Sorry, Tow-B. 

[One4All]

36 minutes ago, wo-s#1 said:

And it’s safe to say the referral and help from Cornel to hire the best is irrelevant also!

 Well I also can say with great confidence that it's not who most want as WOS Leader.

Cornel referral that is... 

And people trying to tell me that someone in that family is Cornel's best friend...

[Reagan]

1 hour ago, wo-s#1 said:

And it’s safe to say the referral and help from Cornel to hire the best is irrelevant also!

I've been wanting to make the following comment for a while:  Since you brought this up, now's a good time: 

Having CT advise is a double edged sword.  Sure, his experience is invaluable.  This is the good part.  But -- there's also another side that is called loyalty.  Coaches are a loyal breed.  That can be good; can also be bad.  The coach with the losing record hasn't been around for 9 years.  Coaches on the present staff, who wishes to apply, will probably get the nod from CT.  You know, out of loyalty they have shown CT.  

[ladybug33]

Racist remarks from a dumb arse! Not you Reagan!

[Cougar14.2]

1 hour ago, CardinalBacker said:

I'm not gonna lie... I was completely surprised that we didn't have an announcement yesterday on MLK Day.

 

Winning football games is nice, but when you have the chance to right the wrongs of the past 400 years, you hire the black coach. 

 

Sorry, Tow-B. 

Lol, it's ingrained in you deep huh? Don't worry, I'm sure God has a segregated place in heaven that's up to your suiting. Hopefully you get to check it out sooner than later?  

On a serious note, the brother-in-law hire is probably the best route for WOS. I highly doubt they have the lure/money to pull MLK Day coaches like Jahmal Fenner, James Williams or Jason Todd away from their programs.