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bullets13, Calling Tarkington's kids or the people that live there names doesn't bother me. I'm not a part of the "offended" crowd. What gets me is the people on here that think or run their mouths like they truly know anything about the team or community. People that think that a certain coach was "run off" when they don't have a clue. I love how the group consensus is that ALL of Tarkington thinks their kids are D1 kids or that Tarkington parents are running coaches off in general. First off, every school and I mean EVERY from Chester to Duncanville has that one parent or set of parents that think the coach there is doing a horrible job. They could have won state last year, but wouldn't have lost that 1 game during the season if their kid would have played more downs, minutes, innings, etc. Even the guy that supposedly worked with Snelson in the 90's using him as the rarest example possible to prove that Tarkington parents from then didn't have a clue. I was around then and if there was anybody there that said that, I never heard it. The one thing I can tell you is I believe that was one of his early gigs and although I haven't had the chance to talk to him in forever, I promise you that the 2022 parents and kids could not handle a 90's Coach Snelson. He's a great man and I have nothing but respect for him, but I guarantee you even back then he rubbed somebody the wrong way and they were popping off at the mouth. If you guys want to have a discussion about things that are wrong at Tarkington, no problem, I'm in line to air my grievances as I've already done. But doesn't mean I going to sit idly by and watch some dude run his mouth about how they will never win and that they better schedule whatever school to ever get a victory just so he can get his jab in, then you are mistaken. I'm going to defend it EVERY time when it comes to that kind of thoughtless chatter (post).

I just read this whole thread, and there was literally one comment on the very first page like the ones you're describing that was completely out of line, and that poster had already received a warning from another moderator. The problem with threads like this is that some people can't handle any negativity about their communities and programs. This thread contains a lot of truths surrounding the shortcomings ofTarkington football (which would also hold true to several other struggling programs in the area, including my alma mater), and some folks get defensive and don't want to hear it. Apart from the one comment about inbreeding, for which the poster had already received a warning (I went back and just deleted the post), there's very little on here that criticizes the community or the school beyond issues pertaining to the football field. I couldn't find a single post about an individual player or coach that was out of line, and just the one about the community as a whole that crossed the line. Tarkington has averaged about 2 wins a year for the last decade. Honest talk about the program, and what they've done (and haven't done) to improve that is not "downgrading the kids and community".

For what it's worth, the rules about bashing coaches and players only apply to local high school coaches and players. Nobody cares if you want to talk crap about college or pro coaches and players.

I see what you are trying to say. Let's look at a few things; 2001, Jerry Vance shows up. 1913 to 2000, Tarkington type-ish record. In other words no State Titles. In 6 years, Vance has a State Title. Has another one the next year. OK, you talk about population growth causing this. Through the previous 87 years before Vance got there, don't you think maybe sometime towards the latter part of those 87 years, that there was population growth going on? I would think so. Hummm, but no State Titles. OK, Vance shows up with 2 State Titles. Later on, 2017 shows a new coach. The next 4 years -- still no State Titles. Let me ask you this: With everything you think that brings a State Title, what -- did all of this just stop after Vance was no longer the coach?! And if it was population, or whatever you think it was, then WHY was no other coach, except Vance, able to take advantage of this and win a State Title?

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Back in the early 70’s older guys used to talk about it. I thought they were a little out there but after a few years I started to see this stuff unfolding. A little reference here, a slip of the tongue there. Yep, it’s the plan. I still contend that the X-Files was so close to the truth it’s scary. A small group of elites controlling/manipulating the western world. Most of our politicians are their puppets. I’m convinced the DNC is under their control, and they have influence in the RNC. Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, they’re nothing but tools. Those elites are the same ones who took care of Hillary’s problems. I’m sure many will think I’m “out there”, as I did of those older folks, but just hang on. The NWO/OWG is coming down the road.

I had Mike Olliver as a substitute teacher while in Middle School, we didn't do any work in class those days, all we did was talk ball.

It's hard to believe but the high school football season is about 5 months away. That fact is not lost on SETXSports.com! We are already making preparations for broadcasting games next season and that is where some of you might come into the picture. Ask yourself a few questions... 1. Do you love high school sports in general and specifically high school football? 2. Are you someone who is always in the stands supporting "MY" team or just going to games because you love the game? 3. Would you like to have an excuse to be at every single game your team plays in this coming season? If you answered yes to those questions then you just might be someone we would like to talk to! We are set for Silsbee, Newton, Woodville and West Sabine but we would be interested in increasing the number of teams and games that are broadcast on SETXSports.com and you could help us do just that. If you have ever or never done any kind of broadcasting we can train you to be the voice of your team on SETXSports.com. We have some who do games all by their selves and others that recruit a team, we leave that up to you! We need to replace Mike Sanchez who is stepping away into retirement. He did East Chambers last year. We would love to go back and broadcast Kirbyville and literally any area school and even into new territory north of Houston we would love to talk to you. If you are interested please email me with your name and phone number and the best time to talk to you. The pay is not always great and it depends on getting advertising sponsors for the broadcasts, but you almost always get to be in a press box. that means you get air conditioning when its hot, a heater when its cold and a dry place when its raining. Believe me that is worth plenty. So contact me and lets talk about you becoming the voice of your school's team! Scott Loar SETXSports.com Sales Manager and Broadcaster for the last 10 years [email protected]

It didn't take long for Toby Talk to take over this thread. I hope he gets a job soon so only the fans of that school will roast him instead of the rest of us. 😄

There's no point in trying to talk sense into any of the Briles jock-riders.

I was just saying that to my wife last night. Everybody was bad mouthing PNG when it was the first in the area to get it. Saying it’s a bunch of spoiled rich kids and all kinds of other trash talk. Now those same people are praising their schools for getting it…..My how hypocritical some people are. Jealousy goes to praise when you are getting what YOU want.

I'm surprised there hasn't been any talk about expanding the bleachers, especially on the visitor's side.

All you do is get on every sports page and talk trash about each team. Please tell us how you did playing sports in college? also, Sam Houston got blown out tonight against Rice. If you liking talking so much smack about everyone, throw your name out so we can how good you were? I’m betting you didn’t play sports.

This Russian Newswoman came on the set during another broadcast with a sign blaming Putin for Russian aggression in the Ukraine. Talk about testicles. Doubt we’ll ever see or hear from this lady again, but I admire her bravery. Needless to say, she’s been taking into custody. [Hidden Content]

First of all I believe it to be nothing but disgruntled talk. If there is an investigation, I think it would have come up before the state tourney. I imagine Dallas Carter and others in that region would have brought this to light. No different rule/precedent other than what happens when a school has ineligible player(s). They have to forfeit games that were played with these players. If this is the case, then look for Hirschi to be declared state champs with an *. I honestly do not think this to be true.

Me and @Yeoj talk about it all the time. Inconsistency.

This one explains a lot. Talk about tying it up in a neat little box. The Bankers will ensure we stay in debt. The Pharmaceutical companies will ensure we stay sick. The Weapon manufacturers will ensure we keep going to war. The Media will ensure we’re prevented from knowing the truth. The Government will ensure all of this is done legally. ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND THIS, YOU UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING!

How do you he’s the right person when he’s hasn’t coached a down. Let’s talk again after 2022 season.

With the Ukraine situation, now is not the right time for any candidate to talk about taking our guns. Might be an election killer. My wife often shares crazy stories with concern going on around the country and I tell her we don’t have worry about that, we live in Texas. If Beto were to get elected, that would change everything.

i dont know who you are but your post wins the entire year !!!!!!!!! and i am from warren and totally feel this to my core. as much as I give a hard time to HD, we could not talk crap about them until after the 2000's ( last 20 year ) because as we all know, they did beat the dogpiss out of a lot of good setx programs for a many of years prior.

The typical voter is uninformed. The typical hardliner is misinformed. The fact remains that one has to woo the uninformed or risk being right, but beaten. A candidate can't say "okay, I did all of these things to make myself unlikable to the uninformed, but when those people vote against me, it's because they're stupid." No, they voted against you because you were so freaking unlikable. The fact remains that roughly 77% of voting-age Texans are registered to vote. Then, take into account that right at 17% Registered voters (that's right, 17% OF 77%) bothered to vote in the Texas Primary Election last week. The general population IS uninformed. The fact that any of us even bother to talk politics online puts us in a very, very, VERY small percentage of the population. Face it... the gen pop (or the "Great Unwashed," as my economics professor used to say) ARE uninformed. What you can't have is a candidate that is so polarizing that he awakens the sleeping giant of uninformed voters to come out just to vote against him. None of what you've accomplished matters if you motivate the masses to vote against you.

But he can damn sure talk about his son. Like the post above, biden is a big piece of 💩

Another team to watch out for is Somerset..! I haven't heard anyone talk about them and all year they been winning.

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Yes I heard lots of talk about body control….