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You have a great thing going over here. The people on here talk football. I am a Dawg homer and get carried away sometimes, but I like the way y’all talk about your teams. Not a lot of smoke blowing but facts.

I hear a lot of talk about a coach who can "change" the culture and pin their hopes on that. As a graduate of a school that has that culture, I can tell you that it not the way it works, ladies and gentlemen. Yes, culture requires the commitment of the players and the coach.....it also requires the commitment of the community. Yes, it requires discipline in the program coming down from the coach and learned by the player....it also requires that the individual parent refrain from going to school officials when their particular son is subjected to that discipline. Yes, it takes a strong defense, but it also takes a parent who doesn't question why his or her son is at safety or linebacker instead of quarterback or running back. The point is a big part of culture is getting off of the coaches back and letting him do his job. A history lesson. Dan Hooks took over the West Orange-Stark head coaching job from Steve McCarty in 1981. He took over a team that was 9-1 in 1980 and subsequently coached the Mustangs to 7-3, 6-4 and 3-7 (the first ever losing season in WO-S history) records over the next 3 seasons. At the end of his seventh season, the Mustangs had 2 state championship trophies in their trophy case. A second history lesson, Hooks' successor, a guy some of y'all might know, lost 3 of his first 4 games as Mustang head coach after he surmised the offense would be better off from the I formation rather than the spread. And that was after his first coaching stint where he went 1-9 and was known around East Texas as the "guy who kept Adrian Peterson on the junior varsity." Despite all that, the Mustangs have never been less than 4 rounds deep in the playoffs with Cornel Thompson as head coach, have made 4 more trips to the state finals' made and put 2 more state championships trophies in the trophy case over on Newton Street in West Orange. Not every decision of Hooks or Thompson did not pan out. But the community as a whole let these guys coach their team. Sure, like any community, the Greater Orange area had their share on village idiots who made their feelings known........they still do. But these guys were given the opportunity to coach their teams. The Lumberton ISD could hire a coach who has a resume of accolades to span goal line to goal line at Raider Stadium to replace Chris Babin. First, they will not find anybody who cares for his kids as much as Coach Babin. Second, even if the resume is better, they will fare no better if the community doesn't get off of his back.

Money does talk. However, your facilities is a completely different pool of money than your salaries. I'm not sure the case with Lumberton, but last time I checked the pay scale was pretty embarrassing. Even though I doubt it, administrator salaries are normally negotiable. Lumberton probably has an admin pay range or so like a lot of SeTx schools. But say I'm wrong... lets assume Lumberton opens up the checkbook for a big name coach. You think assistant coaches will be lining up to make whatever Lumberton pays (probably not much) on a probable undersized staff? There more that goes into it than just paying one person 100K to be your football coach.

You talk like a man with a wooden neck. Where'd you spend this season? Neptune? You must be from that blowinsmoke.com palace of wisdom. Go back, we'll let you know when you're missed. If I'm wrong, go back anyway.

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Good season HD. Real talk

You've always been more level-headed than some of your Tiger fans also. Tonight was tough and I hope you guys play Carthage tougher than we did. We'll never be fans of each other's teams, but I'd have a cold one and talk some football with you any day...

Sry for Jasper. Real talk.

Good lawd son! I’m waiting for the follow up that starts off with “Psyche!”. I had the same epiphany 3 years ago. I only talk bad about posters now... Cuz it’s fun! 🤩

Me and a guy I work with could hold off a small army. You’re right, come to the country with that crapola and it would be like stepping in an ant bed. Talk about hell to pay!

Now that we all agree that a Traditional Color Change is in order, ditch the grey (also we need those zig zag designs back) aka awesome looking uniform designs from the past!, lets talk football. PNG must take no one lightly, or this team is bound to fall in a weird upset. We need an all out total offense & defense effort tonight. Especially having to go to Crosby next week. Execute tonight, build skill, confidence & change the defense around to see what works. Otherwise we will struggle the rest of district, regardless of which teams we have left to play. However, let me reiterate, GOT TO LOVE THOSE INDIANS!!! I have now for 55 years worth of pride & tradition!!!🏈

You should talk him into running for mayor so Vidor can get a real football coach. Its no reason for the pirates to not be winning more in this classification.

you are so clueless. be careful what you wish for. i will take that as an invite...... lol you are the last person who should talk about feelings. don't get yours hurt and leave AGAIN......

Tough talk behind a keyboard.

I don't mean to say this at you, but as it was brought up, the talk of the Hamshire-Fannett movein pipeline needs to stop either. Any kid that moved in and puts on a Longhorn uniform went through the same process that the Ardoin kid did. That means at least a majority of the coaches in the district didn't have a problem with them. If they didn't then why should we? Trying to imply that Coach Rideaux is somehow recruiting a team to HF is just as bad as what was stated this morning about Coach Davis, Dr. Breithaupt and Dr. Harrison. Both are trying to attack the character of an area coach and we can't have that.

Neither party represents us anyway. So we should snuff out every chance they have for reelection. We always talk about choosing the lesser of two evils. Why can't we come together and form better party? Call it the "Less-Evil Party". No platform needed. Just common sense solutions to everyday problems.

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Had HD in this one but hearing talk around last couple days I don’t know which way to call it.

You’re inhaling too much of that Motiva fumes. I have NO beef whatsoever with Baytown, guy. Was that something you just came up with during your hallucinations? ‘Trill talk’ my arse...

So lame. Get your own material, Mr. Trill Talk...🙄

Talk to you in a couple weeks!

Our Republican Party is weak. They won’t do anything. It’s sickening. All talk & no action. EVER! Why isn’t Hillary in prison? Were charges even brought against her? WEAK! I’m tired of this crap.

I don’t think I’ve seen a Nederland Seniors coach on this site all year..... One thing to talk trash but another thing to try to get them to get on here and argue. Take your win move on. If you’ve got trash to talk be a man and talk it to them in person. Not on a message board.

You are correct on many levels but if the coaches can't come on here and take a little smack talk between rivals then they need to stay off the site.

True. I hear more talk of WO-S and Jasper than the subjects of the thread.