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48 minutes ago, gogo173489 said:

Yet another response saying "everyone who has an issue with officials should become one." It's quite a silly suggestion. Some probably have an issue with the window person at McDonald's getting their order wrong all the time. Does that mean they should go work part-time at McDonald's to correct the issue? Maybe a part-time gig at Academy because you can never get help there when needed? How about going to work at your local grocery store part-time because the check out lines are slow? 

Anyone who eats at McDonald's expecting to get their order correct... deserves it to be wrong.  Similarly, expecting much help from any minimum wage employee might lead to disappointment.  Expect it. You can always accept the fact that human error is a part of it and know that if you're seeing missed calls, it's probably happening to the other team as well.  Evens out.  They'll get better with experience and believe it or not, there's pretty extensive training they have to go through.  Much more than McDonald's employees I'm sure.

Know what post I've never seen?  I've never seen someone say, "I decided to become an official and help.  I've heard there's a shortage and I'm not satisfied with the product I've seen during games when it comes to officiating... So I'm going to be proactive."

What I HAVE SEEN... is a seemingly endless amount of whining and complaining.  I suppose it's easier to be an expert from the bleachers. 

49 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

I'm curious how long it will be before Coach Johnston's seat starts warming up in Newton.... Are any of the locals out behind the ag barn plotting for changes, or is the job his-win or lose?

Curtis Barbay won two state titles in 36 years.  That's a lot of "7 year windows" that he didn't get it done.  Maybe they should just leave him alone.

When a high school coach has a great year in the first year they're there, they did it with someone else's kids.  Players that were technically developed by the coach/coaches that were there before they took the job.  Same thing could be said about college/pro.  Unless... they're bringing their own players or players showed up the same year.  Or... something as simple as a league/classification change literally makes all the difference in the world.  That's happened so many times that it can't even be imagined.  Which is another conversation.  It is definitely plausible to assume that they changed the system or used the players in a different capacity... but they're still not "their" players.

However.. when a coach does have significant time to actually develop players and implement a system and set of expectations... that doesn't mean that the players will have championship caliber ability.  Maybe they became better and more competitive than they ever would've been otherwise.  That would be masked by a less than "expected" season according to the mob/community.  Everyone will always have different definitions of success.  To some, it's a championship. That should always be the goal but there's a long path from playoffs, district championship, area championship, region championship.... to state championship.  And assuming that 4-7 years is the "deadline" to make it happen.. the number of factors that influence that other than the right coach is immense.  Stop growing, move, lose interest, classification change, fail, get a girl pregnant, opposing teams transfers (the getting of), and so many other factors that can change a season that the coach has zero control of it's not even funny.  These conversations just make me shake my head.

I can't emphasize this enough: There are multiple places in the state/country that could NOT have won it all with the current players they have, no matter who the coach is or how long they've been there.  I really don't care who disagrees with that.

14 hours ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

The rich gets richer. 

Can't stop it.

7 hours ago, Reagan said:

A few things for your consideration:  Whatever happens will be totally up to the PNG coach.  Elite coaches usually take less than 7 years to win their first State Title.  If's my feeling that it'll be known whether or not they have what it takes to win a State Title within 7 years.  I think we all knew within 7 years that the previous PNG coach wasn't going to win a Title when he hit the 7 year mark.  So, as we know, 5 years was wasted.  On the other hand, which I don't think he will, what if the PNG coach goes 2-8 for the next 6 years?  Do we wait 20 more years for a State Title?  One good thing in his favor though, is that PNG appears to set their limit at 12 years.   

I think we all knew within the first 7 years the previous Nederland coach wasn't going to win one.  Same for the coach Nederland has now.  Unfortunately how long will the Nederland faithful be stuck with him?!  Too bad Nederland can't wise up and make a change so that the Nederland fan base can experience the thrill of a State Title run like the fans at PNG has done 4 times since 1975!  It's all about the choices you are willing to make and willing to live with!

Imagine responding to a post seriously... not knowing that you're being made fun of.

13 hours ago, whsalum said:

if they played Warren to +12 Hardin is probably the only other district club they would have beaten last night 

Looks like Hardin played KV to a couple possession game.  Don't discount them as a potential win either.

1 hour ago, AHUDDLESTON said:

I'm just wondering, if Joseph stays at PNG for 6 more years and they never win a state championship, will it be time to fire him?

I think 7 is all you get.. according to some.  Of course, very rarely does anyone stay that long for various reasons. 

17 minutes ago, gogo173489 said:

Much closer. Buna didn't play well, and was fortunate they were playing Warren and not EC, OF, or Anahuac. Maybe they were looking ahead to EC on Friday, 

Or Kountze?.. 

8 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Their QB left them. He's at China Spring. 

Maybe Wimberly should've offered  better classes.

3 minutes ago, Tim Riggins said:

Carthage has won district in 14 out of the past 16 seasons so if your team is in their district you know going in that you’re basically playing for 2nd place …..

It seems like the rest of the state is playing for 2nd place as well.

23 minutes ago, goldenstick said:

Carthage belongs in 5a.. lol

Have you seen 'Welcome to Wrexham'?  It's on HULU.  I actually think it's pretty good.  Anyway.. I didn't know this beforehand but in this setting, soccer teams actually move up "classifications" or down depending on the previous year's season results.  The premise is that this particular football (soccer) club is trying to be promoted into the next leagues up.  I like it.

I said that to say this.. That's soccer European Soccer.  This is Texas Football.  Even if Carthage is clearly dominant in their classification, it's still their classification regardless.  I understand what you're saying, though.

Anyone surprised by the Albany/Mart outcome.. has obviously never spent any amount of time in Albany, Texas.

11 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

My source at the game said neither team led by more than 5 the whole night.

BH led pretty much the whole 2nd half.

Two very good teams that will make noise come playoff time.

Excellent.  I would've like to have watched.

Seems like it was a good game.

1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I did think the Mustangs would have faired better than losing by 50 but this HF team is really really good.

Mustangs did lose a lot from graduation.

How much help will HF get from football?  I gotta say.. this is the second fairly impressive win I've seen without the varsity football players.

Franklin has some impressive kids in the backfield.  A two-back offense with a lot of toss sweeps out of a slot-t look.  On their clips in MaxPreps they'll send the slot guy in motion away from the play.  Honestly it doesn't look overly impressive.  Having said that.. having your defense in the right place and tackling those backs are two different things.

Best of luck, Anahuac.  They're not 11-0 for no reason.

1 minute ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

He saw more than a few of them already this season. They focused on the favorite to win district instead of PNG. And lost to both.

I hope every team we lost to wins the championship. I always do. But usually that's actually possible.

I'm rooting for

PNG - 5A D2

Newton - 3A D2

Bellville, HF, and Silsbee?

If 3 of those schools win the championship, our season won't seem as bad. Good losses? Never. CT loved losing early to expose weaknesses. CT would say we've had some suspects on the sidelines

This is more than once I’ve seen someone refer to “good losses”. They weren’t good losses.. they just weren’t bad losses.  There’s a difference. 
 

You just said CT loved losing early to expose weakness.  Whatever the reason.. I’d argue that it’s impossible to love losing. Maybe since he viewed them as serving a purpose, they weren’t bad losses.

4 minutes ago, wo-s#1 said:

Majority of setx is NOT WOS…that’s all

I’ll die on the hill that WOS didn’t have a burst of success until the classifications split into divisions.  Before that it had been roughly a couple decades before y’all could get out of the region.  It was.. blow through SeTx then buzzsaw about round 3/4 (Carthage or whoever).

At fault of nobody.  Still.. being the state power like those early years of 4A D2 just weren’t sustainable maybe.  Perhaps other schools have caught up talent wise.  Silsbee and Jasper have a lot of talent.. again.. the losses being complained about aren’t bad losses.

The school picked the coach with the blessing of CT, right? Give him some time.

3 minutes ago, ladybug33 said:

What is the name of your team sir? How did they do in the playoffs?

I’m not even from the area.. but I enjoy high school sports.  Coincidentally, I have numerous friends/family in the coaching profession.  That’s part of the reason I sympathize for what they deal with.. such as being attacked after 1 season for several losses that weren’t really bad beats.  A majority of SeTx would’ve loved to had the season WOS is complaining about.

1 minute ago, wo-s#1 said:

Maybe in your mind,in mine Silsbee and maybe just maybe Jasper weren’t…HF and Bellville are bad losses

How does that make sense? HF, Silsbee, and Jasper were all within 4 of each other.  And Bellville went undefeated in their district.  Albeit a bit weaker.. they’re still winning.  Which is all that some care about.

3 minutes ago, wo-s#1 said:

Finished 5-6,far from a good season 

Again.. Silsbee, HF, Jasper, and Bellville were not bad losses.

Y’all just played a #1 within 7.  In district, Silsbee and HF both won their playoff games big tonight.  They’re pretty good.  Not sure about why Jasper lost but they have lots of talent too.

Quit whining.  Good season.

Done.

Lumberton has best football season in school history… fans question the coaching strategy.

Yep.  Sounds about right.