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On 10/18/2022 at 3:54 PM, jimmyw said:
You are truly a keyboard warrior and have problems with smaller schools. I bet you are a liberal from California with a computer and hopeto show everyone how smart you are.. ( It aint working, be silent and I might give you credit for some knowledge or keep posting and prove you have lack of substance and very little knowledge). I have told you before that I think you have a Alligator mouth and a mockingbird or Cardinal rear-end. I do hope you grow up are quit stirring the pot as I know people (you) do. I remember a few people that got off to that stuff and those same people hid under the tables when the crap hit the fan Mr. keyboard warrior. Please don't be a pecker-less Cardinal and leave Newton alone.
I personally am about as opposite from a liberal from California can be. However... I agree with some of the things that you're responding to here. It's a fact that Newton was decades removed from a state title until UIl split districts into divisions. That's just a fact. Newton was bowing out to Cameron Yoe about every year until then. The same thing is true about WOS. They couldn't get out of the region until the split. Carthage was stopping them.. or Navasota.
Back to Newton. Don't pretend there's any competition for them until fairly deep into the playoffs. That said.. nobody at Newton can help what UIL does and they should definitely be commended for any success. The same is true with anyone.
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17 minutes ago, BEARCPA said:
Down years aren't supposed to happen when 16 starters return from a team that went 4 rounds deep in the playoffs though, and especially not with a program that has had this much historical success.
You aren't taking into account the fact that the other teams return kids and possibly even improve. Every year. You can look at the comparable results with both Silsbee and HF and tell that they are pretty stinkin good. I personally watched Jasper play and know that they're also loaded with talented, athletic kids. Those are not bad losses for WOS.. I don't care how many returners they have.
Calm down. The level of drama coming out of WOS over a few losses to some good teams makes me think that there isn't enough mental fortitude in the community to win any tough playoff games anyway.
Cry me a river. The school has more state titles than most SeTx schools will ever have and are still competitive in what is an obvious down year. Give the guy some time before putting a for sale sign in the yard.
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16 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:
Are you going to bring up the long history of academic shortfalls or just the record of a first year head coach? Just wondering…
Unfortunately.. nobody cares about academic shortfalls in comparison. That's why coaches get away with yelling/cussing at kids but teachers don't. That's why coaches get away with all sorts of physical punishment for behavior and/or missing a practice but teachers don't if a kid refuses to do an assignment or skips class. That's why threads get created about complaining to school boards for gripes about a football coach.. but not about a principal or teachers.
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This'll be ugly.
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15 hours ago, bullets13 said:
I was gonna say 75
It'll be whatever Newton wants it to be.
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17 hours ago, bullets13 said:
That EC is down this year, despite their record.
We've all mostly known that EC is a little down compared to a typical EC team. However, I wouldn't base it off this game alone. Anahuac isn't bad... arguably pretty good. Having said that, EC will be ok. It's hard to think other than EC will do what EC does moving forward. A "down year" every so often won't define the program. They have nice enough facilities, good location, and enough history to always be a threat for some move ins. Anahuac may take a few going forward but both still going to get some. I do predict this EC/Anahuac rivalry will stop being so one sided and produce better games in the future.
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I'm predicting a tie.
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My prediction was pretty close.
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11 hours ago, AP_5309 said:
Just a few miles up the road 5 mins from the stadium some of the best food around really good burgers also have a oyster bar fresh oysters from Smith Point
It's official.. I need to try this place.
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2 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:
Was asked to stick around some to help out.
Not doing the day to day stuff (schedules, standings, etc.)
I never said I was going away completely.
By all means... stay around as long as you want.
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14 hours ago, Lightning/Eagle said:
Yeah, having a good year. Reeascano is the real deal.
It doesn't get a whole lot more serious than Michigan State.
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5 hours ago, SmashMouth said:
Tell me which statement is true:
1. WOS players aren’t smart enough to learn a new system
2. A new coach should never implement his own system, just follow what they had before
3. Change is bad and even though it may produce good results down the road, we should never try anything new
4. Coaches (especially new head coaches) are human and subject to error, but we should bash them no matter what because they aren’t allowed any grace period to prove themselves
5. Football is more important than education, that’s why we slam the coaches so much but allow sub-standard academic results in our schools
It would appear that all of those statements are true.
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I would certainly think that Anahuac should win this game.... but..... I can't/won't bet against EC. I pick Anahuac but reserve the right to say that I believed the whole time EC figures out how to win.
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2 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:
WOS is 3-4
I knew that. Not sure why is said 1-5.. point remains. Losing record but they’re still a good team. Missing what they had but still loaded.
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65-6 Silsbee
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30 minutes ago, bullets13 said:
HF, the only good team EC has played this year, beat them 41-0. HF has 5 wins. The 5 teams EC has beaten also have 5 wins. Combined. EC is 5-1, with their 5 wins coming against teams with a combined 5-30 record (2 of their opponents played each other, so one was guaranteed to win or they would likely be 4-31). EC’s current signature win is a 2-touchdown win over 2-5 Buna. They’ve probably played the easiest schedule in the state to this point. If EC had started their season this year with their first 6 opponents from last year, they’d like be 1-5, 2-4 at best. It is what it is. Nobody is saying EC is terrible, but they’re absolutely down from last year.
While I agree that EC may be down.. using the records of teams they’ve played isn’t always an accurate measuring stick. Being a combined 5-30 could mean the same as a combined 30-5. Maybe it means they’re good/bad.. or maybe it means that matchups caused various outcomes.
I just read comments all week of multiple people saying Buna would win this game. EC may be down but they’re still winning games. Their lone loss coming to a talented HF team. The same HF that was 20 or so yards away from losing to a 1-5 WOS team last night. According to your thinking.. WOS should be included as a bad team. But I watched them play last week and they have athletes everywhere. You can’t speculate on “what ifs”. Kids can only play who’s on their schedule and EC keeps winning. I personally think they won’t stop OF and I’d bet they lose to Anahuac but who knows. I also thought Anahuac would run the table but I obviously miss sometimes.
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The answer, clearly, is to add more schools. Not consolidate. I think BISD should instead invest in having twelve 3A schools. Or eighteen 2A schools. Yes.. definitely that.
Or.. not do anything. United has shown (obviously) to be extremely successful in basketball. That doesn't translate to football just like having good football teams doesn't always translate to being good in other sports.
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On 10/1/2022 at 9:19 PM, LCMAlumtiger32 said:
Im pretty sure peewee coaches get bashed too. You can hear the parents yelling alot better from the sideline then a highschool game because there is no band. Everyone wants tommy playing quarter back or running back. They have the next Joe Montana and Barry Sanders. If you know what im talking about lol
There isn't a doubt in my mind. I'm saying that those who bash high school coaches and even beyond are likely peewee coaches that "know more" than the varsity/college/pro coaches that actually get paid to do so.
To clarify.. I'm not saying that coaches are mistake free. There are definitely coaches that are better or worse than others. I'm implying that there's often a lot more that goes into winning games than simply strategy/preparation. One being talent. And parents/fans often refuse to believe that their little babies just aren't any good. So coaches catch the blame.
People need to realize that Bill Belichick is 71-80 withOUT Tom Brady. So.. is he a worse coach? Or.. did he have one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever take a snap? It wasn't very long ago that he was considered the best football coach to have ever lived. And I have no doubt that he knows more than I ever will. But.. know what I mean? Kind of like Phil Jackson. Who coincidentally has zero championships without MJ or Kobe/Shaq.
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I like HF in this one.. that said: After watching the Liberty/Jasper game, I feel Jasper is tough to stop when ground heavy. Their qb is athletic and potentially dangerous as a runner but not a strong passer. Based on what I hear HF will be a tough beat. I like HF but gut feeling says coin flip.
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3 minutes ago, highsky said:
And that in turn can lead to major abuses in how the athletics money is being spent. I can tell you that has absolutely happened. The HFC/AD can take more than their equal share to spend on football and not other sports. He would then justify it with what you just said, "football is the majority moneymaker/spender within athletics." With a separate AD, that doesn't happen.
It sounds like you have an axe to grind against Hardin. I was not trying to "justify the fact" as you put it about the separate AD and HFC positions. Matter of fact, if you go to the Hardin ISD page, and click on "Athletics", then "Football", you will see a subheading of "Hardin Hornets Coaching History." If you read that, then you will see that with the exception of Haynes, the majority of coaches lasted 2-4 years and that is a lot of turnover at the AD/HFC position. As I said before, the separation of AD & HFC was to create a sense of consistency in the athletic program as a whole. If you don't like it, tough. Go whine somewhere else about how "Hardin is going to scare away coaches" because you're not going to convert me.
In all honesty, I couldn't care less what Hardin does or how they do it. There's no axe to grind here... I'm simply offering an opinion as to how the school can make strides towards being more competitive. You mention the word consistency.. there is no bigger advocate for consistency in a head coach than me. That's evident in my responses to any thread on this site about any school. There's no doubt that being consistent will be a good first step. It seems to me, though, that the hiring of a very qualified, seasoned coach would take a little precedence considering that a usual alternative would be a young guy looking to eventually (probably sooner rather than later) bounce into a more favorable job. That is my thoughts on ANY school doing this very thing. Kountze and anybody else. My only beef with any school would be pretending to want what's best for a head coach of any sport only to limit success for unlimited reasons. Support, money, consistency, fan support (lack thereof), or anything. I'm not the one that said the former coach didn't get the support he wanted so he left. I heard some similar rumblings but don't know. If Hardin has any history of mismanaging athletic funds, that's a completely different issue. I'll argue that's not the case for MOST of the programs with an AD/HFC. And maybe you aren't trying to justify it but saying that it's starting to be common just because you gave 3 area examples just isn't true.
Know what... go ahead, Hardin. Do Hardin. Keep changing coaches every 2-4 years and wonder why the attempt at being consistent failed. I'll pass on going to the website and take your word for it. Again, I couldn't care less. I'll forever defend any coaching staff that's only as good as the limited potential they're dealt and sleep just fine.
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Here's the way I look at it.. they don't split the divisions for any other sport. The schools at the bottom of 3ADII are competing for the same championship as the schools at the top of 3ADI. That's basketball, baseball, softball, golf, tennis, track, etc.. In my opinion, they should either split the districts for everybody or split them for nobody. That's just my opinion.
I understand that enrollment can provide advantage but that's true even if in the exact same classification. There are other things that provide advantage also... Location, industry, # of kids in athletics, average household income, and others.