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7 minutes ago, KF89 said:

Most of the coach critics were\are trash youth league coaches & too embarrased to put their record or real name out here.😎 

I've said this very thing before.  

10 hours ago, vhs said:

Good thing he was 68-56 last twelve years

Do you know what Bill Belichick's record is without Tom Brady?  You should look it up.

And remember.. for the better part of a decade, Belichick was considered one of the greatest football minds alive.

2 minutes ago, OGVillain said:

Correct, does that mean it’s the right decision. There is more to being a High School Coach than just Wins. But debatable!

Not the right decision in my opinion.  Sometimes change is necessary for various reasons.. but wins/losses are influenced by much more than the ability to coach.  Many times, coaches only have what they have and nobody could've done any better.  But making boys into good citizens, that's quite a feat. 

On 1/22/2023 at 4:11 PM, OGVillain said:

You can measure a coaches successes in many ways, by wins, championships, or in lives changed. Wins are good, Championships are great, but there is no substitute to changing a young athletes life. I’ll take a good coach who can mold a young athletes life, over a great coach that gets wins but doesn’t connect with his players. 

Coaches all over the state are fired all of the time for not producing in the "W" column... even if they greatly impact the lives of the players they coach.  

14 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

I never said that…

it just seems to me like Newton was making deep runs almost every year but they’ve been pretty quiet since that last trip to Dallas with the old man… have they made it out of the third round since?

First of all.. I wasn't saying that you said that.  There's a frequent poster here that believes in the "7 years or you're gone" philosophy.  That person knows that I'm referring to them.

Second... um... Newton was 12-2 this year.  They lost in round FOUR.  What are you talking about?

1 minute ago, CardinalBacker said:

It seems like they made deep, deep runs on a pretty regular basis.  It just doesn't seem like that these last few years.  I'm too lazy to go check the records.

 

Doesn't matter.. even if you're correct.  State title or bust, right?  7 years to get it done or you're fired. 

4 minutes ago, gogo173489 said:

No, I want competent officials. Officials that don't call technical fouls for kids coming on to the court during a timeout because he had no idea another official granted the time out. Then, refuse to correct himself because being right was more important than getting it right. Intentional fouls called on kids simply trying to foul at the end of a game to put the other team on the line. An official that understands that going through someone's back to get a rebound is different than a taller player simply jumping higher. You know, simple things. No one is asking for perfection here, just improvement of consistency.

Incompetent officials?  Thanks a lot, Russia. smh

48 minutes ago, gogo173489 said:

Yet another response saying "everyone who has an issue with officials should become one." It's quite a silly suggestion. Some probably have an issue with the window person at McDonald's getting their order wrong all the time. Does that mean they should go work part-time at McDonald's to correct the issue? Maybe a part-time gig at Academy because you can never get help there when needed? How about going to work at your local grocery store part-time because the check out lines are slow? 

Anyone who eats at McDonald's expecting to get their order correct... deserves it to be wrong.  Similarly, expecting much help from any minimum wage employee might lead to disappointment.  Expect it. You can always accept the fact that human error is a part of it and know that if you're seeing missed calls, it's probably happening to the other team as well.  Evens out.  They'll get better with experience and believe it or not, there's pretty extensive training they have to go through.  Much more than McDonald's employees I'm sure.

Know what post I've never seen?  I've never seen someone say, "I decided to become an official and help.  I've heard there's a shortage and I'm not satisfied with the product I've seen during games when it comes to officiating... So I'm going to be proactive."

What I HAVE SEEN... is a seemingly endless amount of whining and complaining.  I suppose it's easier to be an expert from the bleachers. 

49 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

I'm curious how long it will be before Coach Johnston's seat starts warming up in Newton.... Are any of the locals out behind the ag barn plotting for changes, or is the job his-win or lose?

Curtis Barbay won two state titles in 36 years.  That's a lot of "7 year windows" that he didn't get it done.  Maybe they should just leave him alone.

When a high school coach has a great year in the first year they're there, they did it with someone else's kids.  Players that were technically developed by the coach/coaches that were there before they took the job.  Same thing could be said about college/pro.  Unless... they're bringing their own players or players showed up the same year.  Or... something as simple as a league/classification change literally makes all the difference in the world.  That's happened so many times that it can't even be imagined.  Which is another conversation.  It is definitely plausible to assume that they changed the system or used the players in a different capacity... but they're still not "their" players.

However.. when a coach does have significant time to actually develop players and implement a system and set of expectations... that doesn't mean that the players will have championship caliber ability.  Maybe they became better and more competitive than they ever would've been otherwise.  That would be masked by a less than "expected" season according to the mob/community.  Everyone will always have different definitions of success.  To some, it's a championship. That should always be the goal but there's a long path from playoffs, district championship, area championship, region championship.... to state championship.  And assuming that 4-7 years is the "deadline" to make it happen.. the number of factors that influence that other than the right coach is immense.  Stop growing, move, lose interest, classification change, fail, get a girl pregnant, opposing teams transfers (the getting of), and so many other factors that can change a season that the coach has zero control of it's not even funny.  These conversations just make me shake my head.

I can't emphasize this enough: There are multiple places in the state/country that could NOT have won it all with the current players they have, no matter who the coach is or how long they've been there.  I really don't care who disagrees with that.

14 hours ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

The rich gets richer. 

Can't stop it.

7 hours ago, Reagan said:

A few things for your consideration:  Whatever happens will be totally up to the PNG coach.  Elite coaches usually take less than 7 years to win their first State Title.  If's my feeling that it'll be known whether or not they have what it takes to win a State Title within 7 years.  I think we all knew within 7 years that the previous PNG coach wasn't going to win a Title when he hit the 7 year mark.  So, as we know, 5 years was wasted.  On the other hand, which I don't think he will, what if the PNG coach goes 2-8 for the next 6 years?  Do we wait 20 more years for a State Title?  One good thing in his favor though, is that PNG appears to set their limit at 12 years.   

I think we all knew within the first 7 years the previous Nederland coach wasn't going to win one.  Same for the coach Nederland has now.  Unfortunately how long will the Nederland faithful be stuck with him?!  Too bad Nederland can't wise up and make a change so that the Nederland fan base can experience the thrill of a State Title run like the fans at PNG has done 4 times since 1975!  It's all about the choices you are willing to make and willing to live with!

Imagine responding to a post seriously... not knowing that you're being made fun of.

13 hours ago, whsalum said:

if they played Warren to +12 Hardin is probably the only other district club they would have beaten last night 

Looks like Hardin played KV to a couple possession game.  Don't discount them as a potential win either.

1 hour ago, AHUDDLESTON said:

I'm just wondering, if Joseph stays at PNG for 6 more years and they never win a state championship, will it be time to fire him?

I think 7 is all you get.. according to some.  Of course, very rarely does anyone stay that long for various reasons. 

17 minutes ago, gogo173489 said:

Much closer. Buna didn't play well, and was fortunate they were playing Warren and not EC, OF, or Anahuac. Maybe they were looking ahead to EC on Friday, 

Or Kountze?.. 

8 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Their QB left them. He's at China Spring. 

Maybe Wimberly should've offered  better classes.

3 minutes ago, Tim Riggins said:

Carthage has won district in 14 out of the past 16 seasons so if your team is in their district you know going in that you’re basically playing for 2nd place …..

It seems like the rest of the state is playing for 2nd place as well.

23 minutes ago, goldenstick said:

Carthage belongs in 5a.. lol

Have you seen 'Welcome to Wrexham'?  It's on HULU.  I actually think it's pretty good.  Anyway.. I didn't know this beforehand but in this setting, soccer teams actually move up "classifications" or down depending on the previous year's season results.  The premise is that this particular football (soccer) club is trying to be promoted into the next leagues up.  I like it.

I said that to say this.. That's soccer European Soccer.  This is Texas Football.  Even if Carthage is clearly dominant in their classification, it's still their classification regardless.  I understand what you're saying, though.

Anyone surprised by the Albany/Mart outcome.. has obviously never spent any amount of time in Albany, Texas.

11 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

My source at the game said neither team led by more than 5 the whole night.

BH led pretty much the whole 2nd half.

Two very good teams that will make noise come playoff time.

Excellent.  I would've like to have watched.

Seems like it was a good game.

1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I did think the Mustangs would have faired better than losing by 50 but this HF team is really really good.

Mustangs did lose a lot from graduation.

How much help will HF get from football?  I gotta say.. this is the second fairly impressive win I've seen without the varsity football players.

Franklin has some impressive kids in the backfield.  A two-back offense with a lot of toss sweeps out of a slot-t look.  On their clips in MaxPreps they'll send the slot guy in motion away from the play.  Honestly it doesn't look overly impressive.  Having said that.. having your defense in the right place and tackling those backs are two different things.

Best of luck, Anahuac.  They're not 11-0 for no reason.

1 minute ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

He saw more than a few of them already this season. They focused on the favorite to win district instead of PNG. And lost to both.

I hope every team we lost to wins the championship. I always do. But usually that's actually possible.

I'm rooting for

PNG - 5A D2

Newton - 3A D2

Bellville, HF, and Silsbee?

If 3 of those schools win the championship, our season won't seem as bad. Good losses? Never. CT loved losing early to expose weaknesses. CT would say we've had some suspects on the sidelines

This is more than once I’ve seen someone refer to “good losses”. They weren’t good losses.. they just weren’t bad losses.  There’s a difference. 
 

You just said CT loved losing early to expose weakness.  Whatever the reason.. I’d argue that it’s impossible to love losing. Maybe since he viewed them as serving a purpose, they weren’t bad losses.