West Orange-Stark (35) Waco Robinson (21)---FINAL

[ladybug33]

The good thing about it is that the players don't care what people think or say about them for gaslighting or districting because, some WO-S people just don't get that outsiders need to have negativity to stay full. Let's Go Mustangs, Happy Thanksgiving, be thankful we are still playing and, ignore the B.S stay focused. 

[marshman]

3 hours ago, hondo1 said:

No , yall  are triggered, yall been whining for 4 years that yall Superheros are gone and yall didn’t get WHO YALL wanted, with his 48% winning percentage, to lead this program. I know that FACTS hurt y’all’s tiny feelings and dispels yall fantasies, but here’s some facts for yall to cry over. Hooks and Thompson were handed a winning program, that was on the rise , and was absolutely loaded with talent, and there was more than 3 times as many students to choose from to field a team. What did they do with this promising program , RAN IT STRAIGHT IN THE GROUND. Coming off a district championship, with a team that had the greatest Safety to ever play high school football in the Golden Triangle, Lawrence Hardin (a high school All American) at a time when players really had to be great to be named All American, at least 5 athletes on the team that received Division One scholarships, once again at a time when players didn’t have the ability to promote themselves and appear better than they really were. They finished second (I don’t wanna hear about the second place didn’t go to the playoffs, they had the same opportunity to win as TJ and all the other teams had, and they had just beaten the hell outta TJ the year before, with Dodge and Dijon on the team. WOS had a different coach the previous year 🙄. Hooks and Thompson took the team from District Championship, to dead last in four years, and the they still hold the record for the worst single season record in WOS history 3-7 , remember what WOS stood for in 1983 ???? Win One Soon, that’s right y’all’s heroes were abject failures in their first four years and no one in the state of Texas thought they were worth a dam as coaches. More facts, yall denigrate this current staff to no end, but did you know that Hooks and Thompson’s record is IDENTICAL to Hickman’s record after their first 40 regular season games coached 25-15, I already know what you gonna say, Hickman had a losing record in the playoffs, as it currently stands his playoff winning percentage is 50% , you know why you can’t compare his playoff record to Hooks and Thompson after their first 4 years???? Their genius asses never made the playoffs in their first four years ( they had an equal opportunity to do so as all of the teams that did , with a helluva lot more talent than some teams they were losing to. To shut yall asses up , not only was Harold Green , one of the Greatest athletes and running backs to ever suit up for football or Track in this area, but every junior and senior on that 85 team was in the program in 83, so tell everyone why them two geniuses couldn’t figure out how to win more than 3 games with 3 times as much talent as there is currently in the program??? And guess what, Alex Durley, one of the greatest coaches in Texas high school history , took a Brand New school, and somehow was able to bring everyone together and won a State Championship, hmmm , I wonder how he was able to do that????  .You know what the difference is between now and then, Hooks and Thompson were given time and grace to figure it out, to learn and to grow, and they ended up doing great things, but yall BIASED, myopic asses, and most likely some other things also, feel as though this current staff is undeserving of the same opportunity and grace, to this point in their respective careers (their first four years) Hickman had had way more success, and before you open your mouth, everybody today is playing by the exact same rules, Hickman has no control over how many teams go to the playoffs or who is in the district or the region, just as Hooks and Thompson did!!! But go ahead and tell everyone how infallible Thompson was , tells us how it wasn’t Thompson’s fault when they BLEW an 18 point  halftime lead, in a state championship game, how that “ great “ coach let that happen and in 2017 , while playing a team that literally had not thrown the ball 40 times in 15 games combined , but that team knew they didn’t stand a snowball chance in hell  of winning that game without throwing , why didn’t this GREAT GURU have the team prepared for Pleasant Grove to throw the ball, every body in the stands was screaming of the first play of the game “ they’re going to throw the ball , be ready for the pass” not only were they not ready for that first pass, they got burned by that same  play, for big plays at crucial times, at least 5 times!!! So please shut up about the current coaching staff!!!!

 

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Thank you. You kinda just proved my statement was correct. 

[SmashMouth]

17 hours ago, Tiger33 said:

Must be a current WOS staff member 

Or anyone on here reading they same whiny bs that finally had enough. Just my guess though...

[SmashMouth]

10 minutes ago, ladybug33 said:

It's a good way to past the time away while we get ready for the game. What's wrong with thinking about the past?

Agreed. But continuous complaining can get overbearing. Especially for the kids who read our crap.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

11 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:

Agreed. But continuous complaining can get overbearing. Especially for the kids who read our crap.

Preach! Seen it within other fanbases on here, WOS isn't the worst one(s).

[SmashMouth]

22 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Preach! Seen it within other fanbases on here, WOS isn't the worst one(s).

I laugh cuz I know who you’re talkin about. Lol. 

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

14 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:

I laugh cuz I know who you’re talkin about. Lol. 

Several folks smh. Some migrate between forums. 🤦🏾‍♂️

[setxathlete14]

1 hour ago, SmashMouth said:

Or anyone on here reading they same whiny bs that finally had enough. Just my guess though...

Personally speaking. I haven't seen or known anyone besides that 1 person here say that CT and/hooks were in short, a by product of the players mainly. And trying to point out that HH is in the same realm as good of a coach. They just dont have the same talent.

[hondo1]

3 hours ago, wo-s#1 said:

I for one couldn’t care less what happened 45+ years ago(and likely not alone) I care about now and the future,If he hadn’t came and changed up the entire program and kept it the same..I wouldn’t have any problems,he knew the program and what brought the success…he is getting it back together as we seen Friday!

Then why care about what happened 10 years ago, or last year??? So the only parts of the past that you care about are the ones that Glorify who you want glorified, but the parts that are not flattering to them should be disregarded?? got ya. Please tell everyone why it was ok for your heroes to change everything about the program they inherited, completely fail with the changes they made, keep making changes until they finally got something to work, but this man can’t be himself, and do things the way he sees fit to do it , he had to try to be someone else??? There is not just ONE way to win and be successful! The man applied for and got the job, clinging to the past or trying to be someone else was not a prerequisite, every profession out there when a person succeeds a successful person they want to make a name for themselves, not be a copycat or a clone of someone else. Just like Hooks and Thompson, Hickman deserves the opportunity to succeed or fail on his own terms doing things the way he sees fit. You know EXACTLY what you are and everyone else who thinks like you and says the same trash are. Neither the school nor the athletic program exists to please you !!   

[wo-s#1]

18 minutes ago, hondo1 said:

Then why care about what happened 10 years ago, or last year??? So the only parts of the past that you care about are the ones that Glorify who you want glorified, but the parts that are not flattering to them should be disregarded?? got ya. Please tell everyone why it was ok for your heroes to change everything about the program they inherited, completely fail with the changes they made, keep making changes until they finally got something to work, but this man can’t be himself, and do things the way he sees fit to do it , he had to try to be someone else??? There is not just ONE way to win and be successful! The man applied for and got the job, clinging to the past or trying to be someone else was not a prerequisite, every profession out there when a person succeeds a successful person they want to make a name for themselves, not be a copycat or a clone of someone else. Just like Hooks and Thompson, Hickman deserves the opportunity to succeed or fail on his own terms doing things the way he sees fit. You know EXACTLY what you are and everyone else who thinks like you and says the same trash are. Neither the school nor the athletic program exists to please you !!   

[wo-s#1]

19 minutes ago, hondo1 said:

Then why care about what happened 10 years ago, or last year??? So the only parts of the past that you care about are the ones that Glorify who you want glorified, but the parts that are not flattering to them should be disregarded?? got ya. Please tell everyone why it was ok for your heroes to change everything about the program they inherited, completely fail with the changes they made, keep making changes until they finally got something to work, but this man can’t be himself, and do things the way he sees fit to do it , he had to try to be someone else??? There is not just ONE way to win and be successful! The man applied for and got the job, clinging to the past or trying to be someone else was not a prerequisite, every profession out there when a person succeeds a successful person they want to make a name for themselves, not be a copycat or a clone of someone else. Just like Hooks and Thompson, Hickman deserves the opportunity to succeed or fail on his own terms doing things the way he sees fit. You know EXACTLY what you are and everyone else who thinks like you and says the same trash are. Neither the school nor the athletic program exists to please you !!   

Thompson and Hooks are both hall of fame coaches,Hickman is at best a mediocre coach..that may change and when it does I’ll be the first to congratulate him…until then stop comparing them because there is no comparison.You do know he wasn’t even qualified for the job,the crooked superintendent had to change some stuff up to get him in..that’s politics that shouldn’t be in schools but it is and it’s disgusting for taxpayers and that would be me,do you still live here and involved in some of this mess?

[AggiesAreWe]

3 minutes ago, wo-s#1 said:

Thompson and Hooks are both hall of fame coaches,Hickman is at best a mediocre coach..that may change and when it does I’ll be the first to congratulate him…until then stop comparing them because there is no comparison.You do know he wasn’t even qualified for the job,the crooked superintendent had to change some stuff up to get him in..that’s politics that shouldn’t be in schools but it is and it’s disgusting for taxpayers and that would be me,do you still live here and involved in some of this mess?

If you are going to compare, then you have to compare the first 4 years for each and not the entire body of work. Otherwise it's not a fair comparison.

Not sure why Hickman wasn't qualified.

Also, debating that he should or should not have been hired is kind of irrelevant now. 

I said all along that following two HOF's would be a very difficult job for a first year head coach.

I think H and the Mustangs are headed in the right direction. It just wasn't fast enough for some. 

 

[setxathlete14]

There is nothing wrong with wanting the best for the kids. History shows these groups will ALWAYS be capable with the RIGHT leader no matter who it may be..... The standard is the standard. Live up or move on.

[wo-s#1]

18 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

If you are going to compare, then you have to compare the first 4 years for each and not the entire body of work. Otherwise it's not a fair comparison.

Not sure why Hickman wasn't qualified.

Also, debating that he should or should not have been hired is kind of irrelevant now. 

I said all along that following two HOF's would be a very difficult job for a first year head coach.

I think H and the Mustangs are headed in the right direction. It just wasn't fast enough for some. 

 

Honestly I’ve never compared but I will try just for the heck of it,need a old head to tell me when he took over.

[wo-s#1]

Why being a first year coach would you change everything? To do it his way right? Well why is things going back now since his way didn’t work? He’s realizing his way didn’t work or does he believe his days are numbered and he better do something?

[hondo1]

Just now, AggiesAreWe said:

If you are going to compare, then you have to compare the first 4 years for each and not the entire body of work. Otherwise it's not a fair comparison.

Not sure why Hickman wasn't qualified.

Also, debating that he should or should not have been hired is kind of irrelevant now. 

I said all along that following two HOF's would be a very difficult job for a first year head coach.

I think H and the Mustangs are headed in the right direction. It just wasn't fast enough for some. 

 

 

Just now, AggiesAreWe said:

If you are going to compare, then you have to compare the first 4 years for each and not the entire body of work. Otherwise it's not a fair comparison.

Not sure why Hickman wasn't qualified.

Also, debating that he should or should not have been hired is kind of irrelevant now. 

I said all along that following two HOF's would be a very difficult job for a first year head coach.

I think H and the Mustangs are headed in the right direction. It just wasn't fast enough for some. 

 

The man has a Masters degree and any idiot would know that if you've met all of the requirements to work as an assistant coach,  there's no additional requirements one would have to meet to become a head coach,  unless the requirement is to be Nincompoop approved by  people who never wanted you to have the job in the first place and will never accept you no matter what. The operative word in your comment is fairness, which these (fill in the blank) clearly are not interested in 

[AggiesAreWe]

39 minutes ago, wo-s#1 said:

Honestly I’ve never compared but I will try just for the heck of it,need a old head to tell me when he took over.

Why was H not qualified?

He does have a Masters.

[hondo1]

Just now, wo-s#1 said:

Why being a first year coach would you change everything? To do it his way right? Well why is things going back now since his way didn’t work? He’s realizing his way didn’t work or does he believe his days are numbered and he better do something?

First of all , every comment u make u tell on yourself,  Hooks and Thompson didn't invent some play or scheme that never existed,  are u giving the person they learned from credit for what THEY DID??? Of course not, but somehow whatever success this man has , it can't be attributed to him, people who have been gone for years should be credited for his success,  but any failures,  all his, as I said before,  You open your mouth,  and everybody knows who and what you are,  and it's not commendable !!!!

[wo-s#1]

42 minutes ago, hondo1 said:

First of all , every comment u make u tell on yourself,  Hooks and Thompson didn't invent some play or scheme that never existed,  are u giving the person they learned from credit for what THEY DID??? Of course not, but somehow whatever success this man has , it can't be attributed to him, people who have been gone for years should be credited for his success,  but any failures,  all his, as I said before,  You open your mouth,  and everybody knows who and what you are,  and it's not commendable !!!!

I’ve never said nobody invented anything but there was a system in place which your whatever he is to you knew..why did he change it? Why has he changed it back now?