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[quote name="skipper" post="1336992" timestamp="1353341384"] we can talk can talk untell were blue in the face -------------------------------silsbee will win this one big time [/quote] i wonder WWHHHYYY you don`t have any problem being so CONFIDENT that silsbee will win a game, and are so sure in the ineptness of THEIR opponent, but when it comes to WO-S, the school you went to and are supposed to be  supportive of. you`re always praising their opponent and talking about what WO-S is doing wrong??????? like i said before, whoever WO-S is playing in the future, you should wear THEIR jersey and sit on their side. WO-S can do without fans like YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote name="~Kville_Kats~" post="1327192" timestamp="1352635907"] It seems like every year WOS draws the weakest opponment for bi-district...Couple more links out of the chain and WOS will be a spectator..... ;) ;) ;) ;D [/quote] IF YOU`RE GOING TO RUN YOUR MOUTH ABOUT WO-S , OR ANY TEAM , YOU SHOULD AT LEAST BE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT HOW PLAYOFFS PAIRINGS WORK  " IN ALL SPORTS" PEOPLE WON`T KNOW HOW UNINFORMED YOU ARE IF YOU KEEP YOUR MOUTH CLOSED!!!! IN FOOTBALL (HIGH SCHOOL, COLLEGE, PRO) THE OBJECTIVE IS TO WIN YOUR DISTRICT, CONFERENCE, OR DIVISION) IN ALL CASES THE CHAMPION DRAWS A WEAKER OPPONENT FOR THEIR FIRST PLAYOFF GAME. WHEN WO-S STARTS MAKING THEIR OWN SCHEDULE, AND CHOOSING THEIR OWN PLAYOFF OPPONENTS, THEN YOU CAN SPEW YOUR NONSENSE ABOUT WHO THEY`RE PLAYING. UNTIL THEN , STOP LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW YOUR IQ WHEN YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote name="skipper" post="1318406" timestamp="1351949042"] the same goes for wo-s thay were flaged alot lastnight and dropen very easy passes that would have been easy touchdowns the kids were wide open and droped them as you can see mustangs need work [/quote]there you go again with your whining, uninformed comments! wo-s 3 penalties 30 yards. there isn`t a a team anywhere in the country that wouldn`t take that statistic every game. if you secretly don`t want wo-s to win , JUST SAY SO!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote name="skipper" post="1311892" timestamp="1351346725"] the next two weeks the wo-s fans will  see just how good thay are. bridge is no push over thay can move the ball on the ground and in the air this will be a good test for the kids at wo-s and then the game all of silsbee has been waiting for and we all should know how good silsbee  is and playing at home is a big plus very hard to win games there [/quote] VNUPE IS CORRECT, YOU DO SEEM TO ALWAYS HAVE NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THE MUSTANGS, CONSIDERING IT`S A TEAM YOU`RE SUPPOSED TO BE SUPPORTING. WHY DON`T YOU SIT ON THE OPPOSING TEAM`S SIDE FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON

[quote name="kicker" post="1071076" timestamp="1317491468"] Dude, give it up. Seriously. Can a mod please lock this thread? This guy is off his rocker. And the insult to me, well, obviously you don't know me. I'm tired of your rants and insults. Your true colors are showing also. [/quote]Seems like the only people that have their panties in a wad about this are the ones that couldnt cut the dicipline at WOS or are an outsider that has no clue about the program. Give it a rest and go back into your hole. I love when people get on here and hide behind an avatar. You have 5 posts, your opinion doesnt mean squat. now im sure you will post again with another name and cry. Man, you have some serious issues. You are beyond left field...your in the parking lot. insulted you?? i suppose those above quotes from you were all compliments????? seems as though someone can GIVE IT , But CANT TAKE. frankly i was just joking, but if a moderator locks this post, as you "begged" for them to do it`ll just prove my piont. HOW MUCH CLEARER CAN I MAKE MYSELF, I DO NOT DISLIKE OR HATE COACH THOMPSON OR ANY COACH AT WO-S, I DIDNT AGREE WITH THE POST GAME REMARKS BEING SAID &YOU SYNCHOPHANTS ACTED AS IF I HAD TALKED ABOUT HIS MOTHER. I TOLD WHAT I TAKE ISSUE WITH, IF YOU REALLY DON`T WANT TO HEAR FROM ME, THEN QUIT BEING A HYPOCRIT, BECAUSE I WILL CALL YOU ON IT, WITHOUT BEING PERSONAL AT ALL . TRUTH WILL ALWAYS WIN OUT. I WAS JUST SHOWING YOU WHAT A HYPOCRIT YOU ARE WHEN I MADE THE COMMENT, LOOK AT YOUR REACTION, YET U HAD NO PROBLEM GETTING PERSONAL WITH ME.

[quote name="mustangproud" post="1071071" timestamp="1317491232"] [quote author=hondo1 link=topic=88803.msg1071065#msg1071065 date=1317490611] [quote author=Judex link=topic=88803.msg1069720#msg1069720 date=1317406905] [quote author=hondo1 link=topic=88803.msg1069691#msg1069691 date=1317403908] [quote author=Judex link=topic=88803.msg1069372#msg1069372 date=1317352510] Hondo, you are wrong. You have equated singling out a specific player with criticizing a group of players. They are not the same thing. It is not hypocrisy if there is a substantial qualitative difference in the comparison. Give it up. P.S. It is not a question of us worshiping Coach T. Some of us are just painfully aware of his importance to the program. Some of us want Toby to come back for the same reasons. There is something more than just rhetoric to the phrase "Mustang Football." If Coach T leaves without a worthy homegrown replacement, that program will die. The best thing that could have happened would have been for Toby to stay as OC til he could take the reigns from Coach T. Hopefully he will come back so that the legacy can live on. [/quote]please, Mr. JUDEX, and anyone else who wants to say anything, stick to facts and relevance PLEASE!!!!! NOW, whenever you`re trying to determine the validity of an action it never has anything to do with the number of people involved, whether it`s the person comitting the act or the person that the act is comitted to! I`ll make it real simple for you so you can GET the point! EXample 1. The UIL has determined that it is against the rules to play academically ineligible players, players that don`t live in the proper school zone etc... in the early 90`s WO-S had ONE player determined to be academically ineligible and had to forfeit several games and was disqualified for the playoffs, even though they would have been districts champs. that involved one player! Example 2. a few years ago Katy was one or two games away from playing for the state championship, a parent fed the whole team, the UIL determined that was a violation and they were kicked out of the playoffs. here is the point, and it doesn`t matter if it`s an individual, an organization, or what. IF IT`S WRONG TO DO SOMETHING, THEN IT`S WRONG TO DO IT, WHETHER IT`S DONE TO ONE PERSON OR A MILLION PEOPLE. whether you`re talking about how we treat each other in the community (manners, etiquette etc...) or following the rules of some governmental agency. the number of people involved is IRRELEVANT!!!! here`s something i think we all can agree on:for example it would be wrong to put an innocent man to death, because it`s wrong, not because of how many peolple were involved. FOLLOWING YOUR LOGIC, ONE PLAYER vs SEVERAL PLAYERS it would be ok to put one innocent man to death and it would only be wrong if several were put tp death, WHICH IS PATENTLY RIDICULOUS to your point about having a "home grown" coach be integral to the success of wo-s football: Steve Mccarty started that program, he had never coached in the district, neither had Dan Hooks. the community is the key to the success of wo-s football, the parents, along with the kids develop a passion to play football, and to play for wo-s long before they ever reach the seventh grade and they will play for whoever is the coach. as long as there is a high school in orange there will be a successful football program, where the coach is from has nothing to do with how good of a coach he is. Orange texas had a proud history of producing great high school football players who went on to play professional football, long before Dan Hooks & Cornell thompson showed up and it`l continue after they`re gone. LEARN YOUR HISTORY BROTHER, and please stop being willfully ignorant, because it is hypocritical [/quote] I know the history at least as well if not better than you. What Steve, Dan, and Cornell started together is what the program has become and there was nothing like it in Orange before. There's a reason that Dan did not lightly pass the torch. If you want to get down to it, Ronnie Anderson was arguably as big a loss to football as he was for the baseball program. You see what has happened to the Mustang Baseball program since his departure. You can shout big words all day and it doesn't make you any more intelligent or right. Embarrassing an individual kid by calling them out specifically is entirely different than calling out the team or a section of the team. Picking on one player is wrong for a reason that ipso facto does not apply to a "group" of players. Perhaps it is [i]your[/i] willful ignorance that is the problem. If you want to make this an intellectual pissing contest with me, you better head back to the store for some bigger boots and a wet suit. You are in way over your head. [/quote] once again MR.JUDEX: Deny Facts as a Modus Operrandi! "What Steve, Dan, and Cornell started together is what the program has become and there was nothing like it in Orange before". do you know why one use`s quotation marks when writing?? it`s to show exactly what someone else has said, IN THIS CASE WHAT YOU SAID! have you ever heard of "coach" Willie Ray Smith ?? who happens to have a yearly award named after him, of which several wo-s players have been the recepient. I submit that his legend speaks for itself and is of national prominence, and guess what? he started his legendary career in ORANGE TEXAS, where you said no one had ever achieved anything remotely similar to what Dan & Steve & Cornell had(paraphrasing of course, would`n want to put words in your mouth). perhaps he wasn`t a "REAL MAN" like Cornell, Steve, & Dan, or maybe he was only 3/5 of a man. How about Wallace High School ?? where coach Smith coached them to back to back state championships. the high school that all the citizens of Orange were proud of and bragged about to their friends and family throughout the area and the state, where the crowds would be standing room only on many occassions.How about Ernie Ladd, Garland Boyette, Charles Johnson, just to name a few football legends from ORANGE TEXAS who went on to play in the NFL. the building is still standing, just as the LEGEND STILL STANDS, unless the boundaries of Orange Texas changed since last night, then everything i just mentioned happened in Orange and the people who made the accomplishments did it as CITIZENS of ORANGE TEXAS!!!! without ANY help from DAN ,STEVE, or CORNELL!!!!!! perhaps you`ve heard of Andre Robertson, the first black to play baseball at UT& he went on to be a star outfielder for the NY YANKEES, ask Roderick(who i`m sure you`ve heard of) who was the better football player him or Andre. West Orange went to the playoffs several times before there ever was a merger as did Stark. I could go on but I know facts are irrelevant to you and your "Crowd". to once AGAIN address your ridiculous point about how many people were involved & whether or someone`s name was called. If Jason Garrett goes on ESPN & says I have the sorriest tight ends in the league, that`s not calling anyones name specifically, but everyone in the entire universe who follows the NFL wuold know exactly who he`s talking, that would be his perogative to do that, but do you think it help or hinder his relationship with those players???? Now, HOW HARD IS IT FOR ANYONE WHO FOLLOWS WO-S FOOTBALL TO KNOW WHO HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE CALLED OUT HIS SENIORS????????? its not like they have a hundred man roster. Let me answer this post for you. what happened at Wallace was a long time ago, we`re talking about "RECENT HISTORY" how am i doing so far???? it`s been 10 yrs since wo-s played for & 24yrs since they won a championship. I`ll assume you`re a Dallas fan, when you brag about Dallas, do you only mention their most recent dreadful playoff record, or do you brag on their entire history, including ALL of their Super bowls (I DO) once again, either you`re willfully ignornant, biased against anyone or anything that doesn`t fit your WORLDVIEW, or you`re incapable of acknowdledging the TRUTH. PS: as far me being in over my head with an intellectual "LIGHT WEIGHT" like you PLEASE. if you had said I was  over, as in standing over, your pal KICKERS` head, then I could have understood that. Kicker, there is medicine for "SHORT MAN SYNDROME" [/quote] LOL. Judex and Kicker, stop while your behind. This man is armed with facts and you just make yourself look stupid everytime you try and dispute it. Truth be told, some of you need to totally support the Mustangs by going watch the Little Mustangs football team. You will see this is where these great WO-S players are developed and guess what, they are coached by ex Mustang players who should have be given a chance to coach the High School team. These kids are dominating people and you don't see Thompson or any of the other coaches out there supporting these kids. By the time these high school coaches get these players, they are already developed as players. The credit needs to go to these Little league coaches who develop these players and don't get a pay check. [/quote]that would be asking Tooooo Muchhh for them to support the Whole system and give anyone else any credit, it might ruin their fantasy

[quote name="Judex" post="1069720" timestamp="1317406905"] [quote author=hondo1 link=topic=88803.msg1069691#msg1069691 date=1317403908] [quote author=Judex link=topic=88803.msg1069372#msg1069372 date=1317352510] Hondo, you are wrong. You have equated singling out a specific player with criticizing a group of players. They are not the same thing. It is not hypocrisy if there is a substantial qualitative difference in the comparison. Give it up. P.S. It is not a question of us worshiping Coach T. Some of us are just painfully aware of his importance to the program. Some of us want Toby to come back for the same reasons. There is something more than just rhetoric to the phrase "Mustang Football." If Coach T leaves without a worthy homegrown replacement, that program will die. The best thing that could have happened would have been for Toby to stay as OC til he could take the reigns from Coach T. Hopefully he will come back so that the legacy can live on. [/quote]please, Mr. JUDEX, and anyone else who wants to say anything, stick to facts and relevance PLEASE!!!!! NOW, whenever you`re trying to determine the validity of an action it never has anything to do with the number of people involved, whether it`s the person comitting the act or the person that the act is comitted to! I`ll make it real simple for you so you can GET the point! EXample 1. The UIL has determined that it is against the rules to play academically ineligible players, players that don`t live in the proper school zone etc... in the early 90`s WO-S had ONE player determined to be academically ineligible and had to forfeit several games and was disqualified for the playoffs, even though they would have been districts champs. that involved one player! Example 2. a few years ago Katy was one or two games away from playing for the state championship, a parent fed the whole team, the UIL determined that was a violation and they were kicked out of the playoffs. here is the point, and it doesn`t matter if it`s an individual, an organization, or what. IF IT`S WRONG TO DO SOMETHING, THEN IT`S WRONG TO DO IT, WHETHER IT`S DONE TO ONE PERSON OR A MILLION PEOPLE. whether you`re talking about how we treat each other in the community (manners, etiquette etc...) or following the rules of some governmental agency. the number of people involved is IRRELEVANT!!!! here`s something i think we all can agree on:for example it would be wrong to put an innocent man to death, because it`s wrong, not because of how many peolple were involved. FOLLOWING YOUR LOGIC, ONE PLAYER vs SEVERAL PLAYERS it would be ok to put one innocent man to death and it would only be wrong if several were put tp death, WHICH IS PATENTLY RIDICULOUS to your point about having a "home grown" coach be integral to the success of wo-s football: Steve Mccarty started that program, he had never coached in the district, neither had Dan Hooks. the community is the key to the success of wo-s football, the parents, along with the kids develop a passion to play football, and to play for wo-s long before they ever reach the seventh grade and they will play for whoever is the coach. as long as there is a high school in orange there will be a successful football program, where the coach is from has nothing to do with how good of a coach he is. Orange texas had a proud history of producing great high school football players who went on to play professional football, long before Dan Hooks & Cornell thompson showed up and it`l continue after they`re gone. LEARN YOUR HISTORY BROTHER, and please stop being willfully ignorant, because it is hypocritical [/quote] I know the history at least as well if not better than you. What Steve, Dan, and Cornell started together is what the program has become and there was nothing like it in Orange before. There's a reason that Dan did not lightly pass the torch. If you want to get down to it, Ronnie Anderson was arguably as big a loss to football as he was for the baseball program. You see what has happened to the Mustang Baseball program since his departure. You can shout big words all day and it doesn't make you any more intelligent or right. Embarrassing an individual kid by calling them out specifically is entirely different than calling out the team or a section of the team. Picking on one player is wrong for a reason that ipso facto does not apply to a "group" of players. Perhaps it is [i]your[/i] willful ignorance that is the problem. If you want to make this an intellectual pissing contest with me, you better head back to the store for some bigger boots and a wet suit. You are in way over your head. [/quote] once again MR.JUDEX: Deny Facts as a Modus Operrandi! "What Steve, Dan, and Cornell started together is what the program has become and there was nothing like it in Orange before". do you know why one use`s quotation marks when writing?? it`s to show exactly what someone else has said, IN THIS CASE WHAT YOU SAID! have you ever heard of "coach" Willie Ray Smith ?? who happens to have a yearly award named after him, of which several wo-s players have been the recepient. I submit that his legend speaks for itself and is of national prominence, and guess what? he started his legendary career in ORANGE TEXAS, where you said no one had ever achieved anything remotely similar to what Dan & Steve & Cornell had(paraphrasing of course, would`n want to put words in your mouth). perhaps he wasn`t a "REAL MAN" like Cornell, Steve, & Dan, or maybe he was only 3/5 of a man. How about Wallace High School ?? where coach Smith coached them to back to back state championships. the high school that all the citizens of Orange were proud of and bragged about to their friends and family throughout the area and the state, where the crowds would be standing room only on many occassions.How about Ernie Ladd, Garland Boyette, Charles Johnson, just to name a few football legends from ORANGE TEXAS who went on to play in the NFL. the building is still standing, just as the LEGEND STILL STANDS, unless the boundaries of Orange Texas changed since last night, then everything i just mentioned happened in Orange and the people who made the accomplishments did it as CITIZENS of ORANGE TEXAS!!!! without ANY help from DAN ,STEVE, or CORNELL!!!!!! perhaps you`ve heard of Andre Robertson, the first black to play baseball at UT& he went on to be a star outfielder for the NY YANKEES, ask Roderick(who i`m sure you`ve heard of) who was the better football player him or Andre. West Orange went to the playoffs several times before there ever was a merger as did Stark. I could go on but I know facts are irrelevant to you and your "Crowd". to once AGAIN address your ridiculous point about how many people were involved & whether or someone`s name was called. If Jason Garrett goes on ESPN & says I have the sorriest tight ends in the league, that`s not calling anyones name specifically, but everyone in the entire universe who follows the NFL wuold know exactly who he`s talking, that would be his perogative to do that, but do you think it help or hinder his relationship with those players???? Now, HOW HARD IS IT FOR ANYONE WHO FOLLOWS WO-S FOOTBALL TO KNOW WHO HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE CALLED OUT HIS SENIORS????????? its not like they have a hundred man roster. Let me answer this post for you. what happened at Wallace was a long time ago, we`re talking about "RECENT HISTORY" how am i doing so far???? it`s been 10 yrs since wo-s played for & 24yrs since they won a championship. I`ll assume you`re a Dallas fan, when you brag about Dallas, do you only mention their most recent dreadful playoff record, or do you brag on their entire history, including ALL of their Super bowls (I DO) once again, either you`re willfully ignornant, biased against anyone or anything that doesn`t fit your WORLDVIEW, or you`re incapable of acknowdledging the TRUTH. PS: as far me being in over my head with an intellectual "LIGHT WEIGHT" like you PLEASE. if you had said I was  over, as in standing over, your pal KICKERS` head, then I could have understood that. Kicker, there is medicine for "SHORT MAN SYNDROME" PS: I have no problem with Coach Hooks, Mccarthy, or Thompson, really like all of em. my problem is with TWO FACED HYPOCRITS, i dont expect any of you to change, or stop being hypocritical, don`t expect me to stop calling you on it!!!!!!!!

[quote name="Judex" post="1069372" timestamp="1317352510"] Hondo, you are wrong. You have equated singling out a specific player with criticizing a group of players. They are not the same thing. It is not hypocrisy if there is a substantial qualitative difference in the comparison. Give it up. P.S. It is not a question of us worshiping Coach T. Some of us are just painfully aware of his importance to the program. Some of us want Toby to come back for the same reasons. There is something more than just rhetoric to the phrase "Mustang Football." If Coach T leaves without a worthy homegrown replacement, that program will die. The best thing that could have happened would have been for Toby to stay as OC til he could take the reigns from Coach T. Hopefully he will come back so that the legacy can live on. [/quote]please, Mr. JUDEX, and anyone else who wants to say anything, stick to facts and relevance PLEASE!!!!! NOW, whenever you`re trying to determine the validity of an action it never has anything to do with the number of people involved, whether it`s the person comitting the act or the person that the act is comitted to! I`ll make it real simple for you so you can GET the point! EXample 1. The UIL has determined that it is against the rules to play academically ineligible players, players that don`t live in the proper school zone etc... in the early 90`s WO-S had ONE player determined to be academically ineligible and had to forfeit several games and was disqualified for the playoffs, even though they would have been districts champs. that involved one player! Example 2. a few years ago Katy was one or two games away from playing for the state championship, a parent fed the whole team, the UIL determined that was a violation and they were kicked out of the playoffs. here is the point, and it doesn`t matter if it`s an individual, an organization, or what. IF IT`S WRONG TO DO SOMETHING, THEN IT`S WRONG TO DO IT, WHETHER IT`S DONE TO ONE PERSON OR A MILLION PEOPLE. whether you`re talking about how we treat each other in the community (manners, etiquette etc...) or following the rules of some governmental agency. the number of people involved is IRRELEVANT!!!! here`s something i think we all can agree on:for example it would be wrong to put an innocent man to death, because it`s wrong, not because of how many peolple were involved. FOLLOWING YOUR LOGIC, ONE PLAYER vs SEVERAL PLAYERS it would be ok to put one innocent man to death and it would only be wrong if several were put tp death, WHICH IS PATENTLY RIDICULOUS to your point about having a "home grown" coach be integral to the success of wo-s football: Steve Mccarty started that program, he had never coached in the district, neither had Dan Hooks. the community is the key to the success of wo-s football, the parents, along with the kids develop a passion to play football, and to play for wo-s long before they ever reach the seventh grade and they will play for whoever is the coach. as long as there is a high school in orange there will be a successful football program, where the coach is from has nothing to do with how good of a coach he is. Orange texas had a proud history of producing great high school football players who went on to play professional football, long before Dan Hooks & Cornell thompson showed up and it`l continue after they`re gone. LEARN YOUR HISTORY BROTHER, and please stop being willfully ignorant, because it is hypocritical

[quote name="football04" post="1068840" timestamp="1317306392"] Hondo, while I agree with your thoughts on Coach Thompson, why would you bring politics into this conversation, I for 1, think your "conservative psychosis" sounds more like liberal BS to me, but I'll leave at that since this is a sports forum. [/quote] i never mentioned anything about politics, i`m talking about a frame of mind, a way of thinking, and acting. i don`t care about your politics, just about you being consistent and honest when you "try" to argue a point.

[quote name="Majestyk" post="1068832" timestamp="1317305455"] Hondo, you talk like a man with a wooden neck.  I started reading your post but didn't finish. [/quote] a wooden neck huh?? i suppose you communicate with inanimate objects all the time? im not suprised you didn`t finish reading my post  :)

[quote name="kicker" post="1068250" timestamp="1317222862"] [quote author=hondo1 link=topic=88803.msg1068100#msg1068100 date=1317181731] [quote author=Gasilla link=topic=88803.msg1067194#msg1067194 date=1317091050] [quote author=mustangproud link=topic=88803.msg1067184#msg1067184 date=1317090430] [quote author=Gasilla link=topic=88803.msg1067159#msg1067159 date=1317089706] [quote author=sportsfreak2008 link=topic=88803.msg1067112#msg1067112 date=1317087440] Wow is all I can say.  Just because a guys around for 30+ years we are suppose to forget the fact he blamed the players for the loss.  Kids are gonna make mistakes they are human but don't throw them under the bus when it was very obvious the play caller clearly didn't have his act together so therefore it's going to cause the players to look as though they don't know what they are doing.  I don't recall him being "thrown under the bus" on public radio. Just sayin' [/quote] I heard the interview a little while ago. He talked about some players being selfish and not being team players. Personally, I think they should play it again on the loud speakers at practice so everyone can hear it because he was right on the money. Ridiculous to accuse him of throwing someone under the bus. It's motivation and is absolutely necessary at times and this is one of them. [/quote] Well it should be looked at the same way when the coach is being criticize because he's not getting it done. Some of you are such hypocrites. You guys never think it's justified to criticize the coaches, but have no problem criticizing children. If the kids can't get it then it still goes back to the coaches. These same kids had no problem getting it last year. [/quote] Are you calling me a hypocrite? I haven't said a thing to you about your little rants. I think people are freaking out for no reason and that's my opinion. Am I not entitled to my opinion? And besides, who is criticizing children? I'm not and neither has anyone else. Cornel Thompson criticized the attitude of some of his players which is his job to do, he is the coach. He is not a whinny complainer on a public message board. Surely, even you can see the difference. [/quote] it may be thompson`s job to critique his players, but he didnt have to do it publicly. when you start publicly critcizing your children, or anyone in high school, then you`ll have a legitimate claim. it seems to me all of you hypocrits on here who want to build some monument to coach thompson, and crucify anyone who questions his coaching style, or suggest that he could possibly have done anything wrong, like publicly calling out his players, then you want to say the players are "almost" grown men and they should be able to take it. well, i remember a few years ago when one of wo-s` assistant coaches son was the the QB, and people criticized his play, you all ran to his defense, and said how no one should be criticizing a high school kid. DO YOU REALLY THINK THE SENIORS ON THIS TEAM DON`T THAT THEY ARE SENIORS ?????/  , AND THAT ANYONE WHO PICKS UP A PROGRAM DOESN`T KNOW WHO THEY ARE? IT DOESN`T MATTER THAT HE DIDN`T CALL A SPECIFIC NAME, HE BESMIRCHED ALL OF THE SENIORS BY CALLING THEM OUT. SO MAKE YOUR MINDS UP, YOU CAN`T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS [/quote] You know, I would be willing to bet that you have been "besmirched' by Thompson, or maybe have a beef with the program itself. Im not sure where you get off calling us hypocrites or "building a monument of Coach T", but we give respect where respect is due. WOS has always been different because of the blunt coaching. That is the MUSTANG way, not Coach T's or anyone elses. Seems like the only people that have their panties in a wad about this are the ones that couldnt cut the dicipline at WOS or are an outsider that has no clue about the program. Give it a rest and go back into your hole. I love when people get on here and hide behind an avatar. You have 5 posts, your opinion doesnt mean squat. now im sure you will post again with another name and cry. [/quote] typical conservative psychosis:           1. demonize anyone you disagree with           2. deny facts           3. wear hypocrisy as a badge of honor           4. no objectivity fact 1. having respect for a man has absolutely nothing to do with the rightness, or wrongness of his actions. fact 2. the issue is not who is the most in love with cornell thompson, but, is it acceptable to publicly criticize high school athletes for their play on the field. as i previously stated, it was you & everyone else on this board who thinks like you, who , when a certain coaches son played QB for WO-S ( whom you all supported) was being criticized, you all said it was wrong, and these were high school kids, and they read these boards, and their feelings might get hurt if they saw that criticism. at that time you supported that player and didnt care for the people doing the criticizing. Now, we have a more egregious situation, it`s not some annonymous person that the players dont know thats publicly criticizing them, but it`s their own coach, but you happen to  rabidly support the person who did the criticizing this time, so now it`s ok to publicly criticize high school athletes( some WO-S senior players)  either it`s ok to publicly critcize high school athletes or not , it cant be both, or based on how you feel about the parties involved.      definition:  hypocrite  (1) A person who engages in the same behaviors he condemns others for. (2) A person who professes certain ideals, but fails to live up to them. (3) A person who holds other people to higher standards than he holds himself.       in case you`re still wondering why you`re a hypocrit, you can not be on both sides of the same issue. you`re condemed by your own words, you know exactly what player i`m talking about, just as everyone who follows WO-S football does, and you know everything that i`ve said is true. You said it was wrong to criticize that player, what makes the current players any different????? to your friends who insinuate that someone has an agenda, or is trying to cause dissension, i defer to my previous comment about not having any objectivity. it seems to me that if ANYONE has done anything to cause dissension it`s thompson himself. did anyone pay him, or coerce him to say what he said? NO, is he NOT RESPONSIBLE for what comes out of his mouth? regardless of what you think of me, the players , or thompson, we wouldn`t be having this conversation if he had kept his mouth shut. contrary to what you may believe, I admire coach thompson too, but that doesn`t mean I cant  criticize him when i think he`s wrong. i don`t owe any man blind loyalty. what person is in your life that you have never found fault with anything they`ve said or done ???????? that person doesn`t exist !   PS: to the person that asked, I heard the whole interview. coach thompson can tell his players anything he likes within the "family" of the team, in the privacy of "their" locker room, but when any coach steps to that microphone, for the sake of team unity, he has to speak as they are all in it together, as one, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HE IS REALLY FEELING

[quote name="Gasilla" post="1067194" timestamp="1317091050"] [quote author=mustangproud link=topic=88803.msg1067184#msg1067184 date=1317090430] [quote author=Gasilla link=topic=88803.msg1067159#msg1067159 date=1317089706] [quote author=sportsfreak2008 link=topic=88803.msg1067112#msg1067112 date=1317087440] Wow is all I can say.  Just because a guys around for 30+ years we are suppose to forget the fact he blamed the players for the loss.  Kids are gonna make mistakes they are human but don't throw them under the bus when it was very obvious the play caller clearly didn't have his act together so therefore it's going to cause the players to look as though they don't know what they are doing.  I don't recall him being "thrown under the bus" on public radio. Just sayin' [/quote] I heard the interview a little while ago. He talked about some players being selfish and not being team players. Personally, I think they should play it again on the loud speakers at practice so everyone can hear it because he was right on the money. Ridiculous to accuse him of throwing someone under the bus. It's motivation and is absolutely necessary at times and this is one of them. [/quote] Well it should be looked at the same way when the coach is being criticize because he's not getting it done. Some of you are such hypocrites. You guys never think it's justified to criticize the coaches, but have no problem criticizing children. If the kids can't get it then it still goes back to the coaches. These same kids had no problem getting it last year. [/quote] Are you calling me a hypocrite? I haven't said a thing to you about your little rants. I think people are freaking out for no reason and that's my opinion. Am I not entitled to my opinion? And besides, who is criticizing children? I'm not and neither has anyone else. Cornel Thompson criticized the attitude of some of his players which is his job to do, he is the coach. He is not a whinny complainer on a public message board. Surely, even you can see the difference. [/quote] it may be thompson`s job to critique his players, but he didnt have to do it publicly. when you start publicly critcizing your children, or anyone in high school, then you`ll have a legitimate claim. it seems to me all of you hypocrits on here who want to build some monument to coach thompson, and crucify anyone who questions his coaching style, or suggest that he could possibly have done anything wrong, like publicly calling out his players, then you want to say the players are "almost" grown men and they should be able to take it. well, i remember a few years ago when one of wo-s` assistant coaches son was the the QB, and people criticized his play, you all ran to his defense, and said how no one should be criticizing a high school kid. DO YOU REALLY THINK THE SENIORS ON THIS TEAM DON`T THAT THEY ARE SENIORS ?????/  , AND THAT ANYONE WHO PICKS UP A PROGRAM DOESN`T KNOW WHO THEY ARE? IT DOESN`T MATTER THAT HE DIDN`T CALL A SPECIFIC NAME, HE BESMIRCHED ALL OF THE SENIORS BY CALLING THEM OUT. SO MAKE YOUR MINDS UP, YOU CAN`T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS

[quote name="kicker" post="1044859" timestamp="1314724958"] Here is my take....referees are human, they miss calls. Some go in favor and some dont. I do recall a blatant holding by Nederland that wasnt called but also remember a blatant hold by WOS that wasnt called. The point is that the refs let the kids play. When you are playing a team like Nederland, you cant make mistakes. Obviously it bit us. Coach T had a great gameplan and we will be getting better and better. Losing to the Dogs is alot differentr than losing to an inferior team. Those boys in Mid- County can flat out play ball. We are fine guys...we lost a close, hard nosed game. Nederland is good and so are we. On paper, Nederland SHOULD win. We have been on the winning side of the series for quite a while it was just Ned's time. Both teams are going to make some noise this season and I look forward to following both. Now lets go beat up on some other Mustangs.....I mean seriously, who wears baby blue?? lol [/quote] just pointing out that assinine statement you made "on paper nederland should win" nobody in the entire state of texas , except maybe Bob West, picked nederland to win that game, and for good reason. nederland will NEVER have more talent on the field than WO-S. JUST BECAUSE A SCHOOL HAS MORE STUDENTS , IT DOES NOT TRANSLATE INTO THEY "SHOULD" BE BETTER. the designations of 5a, 4a 3a etc... only tells you how many students there are at a school. there are 100`s of 5A schools in the state that wish they had the talent wo-s has, or a lot of other 3a schools. more does not automatically mean better. just as everyone who is taller than you , doesnt automatically make them a better basketball player than you. people always want to make that ridiculous assumption in sports. why do you think wo-s has had to travel so far to get non-district games, bigger schools don`t want to play them!!!!!!!!

[quote name="bigdog" post="1044835" timestamp="1314724022"] [quote author=hondo1 link=topic=87285.msg1044480#msg1044480 date=1314673758] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=87285.msg1043734#msg1043734 date=1314596897] [quote author=hondo1 link=topic=87285.msg1043694#msg1043694 date=1314588341] Nederland hasn`t won a championship of any kind in football since 1960, and if it werent for 2nd, 3rd, 4th, & 5th place teams going to the platoffs they wouldn`t have gone to the playoffs since 1960. Ned & PNG are the only teams in the area that gets to play with 16 players, their 11 plus the five referees. hooks had a reason for not using local referees when he played them. thompson is too conservative, every coach at every level that plays "not to lose" but doesn`t play to win, always ends up losing. Go  watch the U on ESPN, Jimmy Johnson shows how the game is supposed to be played [/quote] Get over yourself.  WOS has benefited from 2nd or 3rd on a couple of playoff appearances also.  Ned didn't quit and they beat you. [/quote] first of all, everyone can quit singing the praises of nederland for "not quitting" how many teams do you know of that quits` playing before the game is over, of course they didn`t quit, neither did their other 5 players, the referees, quit! so until nederland wins a championship of some sort, quit trying to brag on how many times they have been to the playoffs ect... when all they have been is 2nd, 3dr or 4th best. history is not written about the second best`s of the world [/quote] Nederland has one less championship than WOS.  As far as calls go, they go both ways and believe me WOS has benefited from favorable calls plenty. [/quote] nederland has been around, and playing football 3 times longer than WO-S. we`re talking about modern times, you know, after intergration, when EVERYONE got to participate equally, not prehistoric times( pre 1970) what has nederland done since 1970 ?????? NOTHING. you don`t get to talk feces, if you never have been the best. WO-S has a winning record against every school in this area, by a wide margin. the only schools in the entire state that has a winning record against wo-s are Lamarque, and the schools they have lost to that they only played one time. in the 34 years since wo-s started playing they have played in 4 state championships, and won 2. nederland has played in 0, in 34 years wos has 1 losing record, nederland has too many to count in the last 34 years, wo-s has had over 100 players go on to play DIV 1 football and at least 8 play professional football. nederland has produced how many??????? like i said , quit all the pretenses as if nederland is competing for a championship of any kind, everybody knows they aren`t. nederland has a decent program, but they are not , and never has been in WO_S` league. winning a game against WO-S was yall`s superbowl, as it would be for most schools