Nederland Coaching

[Couch.Coach]

What's going on with Nederland? I thought their new coach was going to do something. I was wrong.

[myrecordwashorrible]

32 minutes ago, Couch.Coach said:

What's going on with Nederland? I thought their new coach was going to do something. I was wrong.

Uncle spidey???

[Football_Fan11]

2 hours ago, Couch.Coach said:

What's going on with Nederland? I thought their new coach was going to do something. I was wrong.

They had a very good season last year.

People who instantly blame the coaches every time something goes wrong show their ignorance regarding athletics. 

Most nights they are outmanned athletically, success isn’t always linear  Let’s give the guy a 4 year window to see a freshman class through before we claim he  isn’t doing anything  

 

 

 

 

[Couch.Coach]

7 minutes ago, Football_Fan11 said:

They had a very good season last year.

People who instantly blame the coaches every time something goes wrong show their ignorance regarding athletics. 

Most nights they are outmanned athletically, success isn’t always linear  Let’s give the guy a 4 year window to see a freshman class through before we claim he  isn’t doing anything  

 

 

 

 

They did have a good year last year. That was the previous coach's efforts. This year is Rich. 

Ignorance of athletics....far from it. They aren't outmanned, just out coached. 

4 year window? Stop it. Are you serious? They way kids are leaving the program, there won't be one in 4 years.

 

[NHSBulldogFan]

15 minutes ago, Couch.Coach said:

They did have a good year last year. That was the previous coach's efforts. This year is Rich. 

Ignorance of athletics....far from it. They aren't outmanned, just out coached. 

4 year window? Stop it. Are you serious? They way kids are leaving the program, there won't be one in 4 years.

 

Even Bobby August got 3 years 

[TommyShep]

40 minutes ago, Couch.Coach said:

They did have a good year last year. That was the previous coach's efforts. This year is Rich. 

Ignorance of athletics....far from it. They aren't outmanned, just out coached. 

4 year window? Stop it. Are you serious? They way kids are leaving the program, there won't be one in 4 years.

 

Next year will say a lot about the program.. 17 starters returning so they should show major improvements.. inexperience won’t be an excuse next year 

[outanup]

39 minutes ago, Couch.Coach said:

They did have a good year last year. That was the previous coach's efforts. This year is Rich. 

Ignorance of athletics....far from it. They aren't outmanned, just out coached. 

4 year window? Stop it. Are you serious? They way kids are leaving the program, there won't be one in 4 years.

 

I've heard kids are leaving the program also .Hope this isn't true. Rich may or may not be the answer but he should and will likely get another year or possibly 2.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Kids leaving the school or just leaving the program?? 

[pakronos]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Kids leaving the school or just leaving the program?? 

i'd say leaving the program. I mean they not showing up at PAM, but with this season and if theres a deep playoff run, it might bring kids back to PAM.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

2 minutes ago, pakronos said:

i'd say leaving the program. I mean they not showing up at PAM, but with this season and if theres a deep playoff run, it might bring kids back to PAM.

Who's to say those kids ever been in Port Arthur ISD let alone Memorial HS??

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Any word on what the snapshot number is for Nederland?? Png perhaps??

[navydawg31]

Kids leaving the program is a first I heard of that one… both freshman and JV football teams will be District Champs… tons of sophomores on varsity getting some serious minutes… I find it very hard to believe that kids are leaving the program… in fact a few kids came back into the program… 

[PNGFaithful]

2 hours ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Any word on what the snapshot number is for Nederland?? Png perhaps??

Heard PNG a little over 1700

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

2 minutes ago, PNGFaithful said:

Heard PNG a little over 1700

Thanks. That's on par with what they had last time. 

[Darth Texas]

4 hours ago, Football_Fan11 said:

They had a very good season last year.

People who instantly blame the coaches every time something goes wrong show their ignorance regarding athletics. 

Most nights they are outmanned athletically, success isn’t always linear  Let’s give the guy a 4 year window to see a freshman class through before we claim he  isn’t doing anything  

 

 

 

 

I wouldn’t call last season “very good.” Other than beating PNG, there’s not much to point at. They dropped their last three games, including getting pummeled in the first round. 
 

And, I disagree that Nederland is outmanned athletically. They aren’t. They’re big, well-conditioned, they run to the ball. They can toe up physically with anyone in the district. Nederland doesn’t need to wait for a better crop of players. They have good players right now. The problem is entirely in execution, and that’s on the coaches. 

[spidersal]

The season is a combination of coaching and poor athletic ability. The QB struggles big time passing. If he does throw a decent pass the receivers drop it more times than they catch it. The LB’er and secondary play is about as bad as you can get. The tackling is atrocious (how many missed tackles on Huntsville’s last 2 offensive TD’s)

Yes I would say a definite combination of coaching and poor athletic ability

[outanup]

14 hours ago, Darth Texas said:

I wouldn’t call last season “very good.” Other than beating PNG, there’s not much to point at. They dropped their last three games, including getting pummeled in the first round. 
 

And, I disagree that Nederland is outmanned athletically. They aren’t. They’re big, well-conditioned, they run to the ball. They can toe up physically with anyone in the district. Nederland doesn’t need to wait for a better crop of players. They have good players right now. The problem is entirely in execution, and that’s on the coaches. 

I agree......And the elephant in the room, " Nederland is YOUNG'' is really true. Rich is in a tough spot as his measuring stick is the guy across the tracks. The dogs need coordinators, let's see if this happens. 

[pakronos]

18 hours ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Who's to say those kids ever been in Port Arthur ISD let alone Memorial HS??

chances are those kids have families in PA. It's the old "i hate PAISD" parents that run to nederland and PNG. So yes, it's very possible they can come BACK to PA.

[PN-G bamatex]

Scott Rich is a good coach. I don't think he's the problem.

In my opinion, there are a few key factors to consider when gauging Nederland's success this season. The obvious ones are the injuries, the youth and inexperience of this Bulldogs team, and the fallout from the coaching change. But the most significant, long term factor--and the most overlooked, in my opinion--is the difference in enrollment.

PN-G is sitting just a hair over 1,700 students in total enrollment, which is squarely in the middle of the 5A enrollment spectrum and in the upper half of the 5A-DII classification. Nederland is sitting a hair over 1.400 students, which is less than a hundred students above the dividing line between 5A-DII and 4A-DI.

To put that in perspective, when I was in school 15 years ago, PN-G and Nederland were both hovering around the 1,400 student enrollment mark. PN-GISD has soaked up all the growth in Mid-County while Nederland ISD's enrollment has been stagnant. We could debate why and it's probably a confluence of factors, not just any one, single reason. But whatever the cause, the simple fact is that Nederland's talent pool isn't as strong as its competition on average.

[oldman]

22 hours ago, Couch.Coach said:

They did have a good year last year. That was the previous coach's efforts. This year is Rich. 

Ignorance of athletics....far from it. They aren't outmanned, just out coached. 

4 year window? Stop it. Are you serious? They way kids are leaving the program, there won't be one in 4 years.

 

So what would you do differently than Coach Rich and his staff?

What scheme would you base out of?  Player-wise who would you put where and why?

Gotta have WHY with your viewpoint from the COUCH.

[purpleeagle]

23 hours ago, Football_Fan11 said:

They had a very good season last year.

People who instantly blame the coaches every time something goes wrong show their ignorance regarding athletics. 

Most nights they are outmanned athletically, success isn’t always linear  Let’s give the guy a 4 year window to see a freshman class through before we claim he  isn’t doing anything  

Serves you right, may not be coaching but may be the athletes or lack of athletes. 

 

 

 

 

[Couch.Coach]

1 hour ago, oldman said:

So what would you do differently than Coach Rich and his staff?

What scheme would you base out of?  Player-wise who would you put where and why?

Gotta have WHY with your viewpoint from the COUCH.

First, if you don't have a quarterback that can throw...run an offense that caters to his talents. Option, Wing T, whatever.....figure it out by properly evaluating the talent you have on hand. Put the fullback back in the game. Stoker did a good job last year at FB lead blocking for Thomas, and picking up tough yards on dive plays. Rich moved him to TE, barely touched the ball this year. Just one of many bad decisions.

Second, if your offense keeps the defense on the field all night, there should be more than the first team touching the field. Keep fresh kids rotating on the field without lowering the intensity/ability. First team is tired. 

I have more info, but I will end with, "The Standard, Is The Standard". If Rich is going to have expectations for participation, it should be across the board. Depending on the player/parent/donor.......some are held to different standards. 

 

[Couch.Coach]

4 hours ago, PN-G bamatex said:

Scott Rich is a good coach. I don't think he's the problem.

In my opinion, there are a few key factors to consider when gauging Nederland's success this season. The obvious ones are the injuries, the youth and inexperience of this Bulldogs team, and the fallout from the coaching change. But the most significant, long term factor--and the most overlooked, in my opinion--is the difference in enrollment.

PN-G is sitting just a hair over 1,700 students in total enrollment, which is squarely in the middle of the 5A enrollment spectrum and in the upper half of the 5A-DII classification. Nederland is sitting a hair over 1.400 students, which is less than a hundred students above the dividing line between 5A-DII and 4A-DI.

To put that in perspective, when I was in school 15 years ago, PN-G and Nederland were both hovering around the 1,400 student enrollment mark. PN-GISD has soaked up all the growth in Mid-County while Nederland ISD's enrollment has been stagnant. We could debate why and it's probably a confluence of factors, not just any one, single reason. But whatever the cause, the simple fact is that Nederland's talent pool isn't as strong as its competition on average.

Thanks for bringing the numbers up. In several cases the enrollment doesn't reflect the athletic participation. Even though Nederland is around 1400 kids, i would bet they have more kids in their high school program than Memorial. No one ever talks about the amazing job PA has been able to do. They are around 1700 students also, but over half of their enrollment in hispanic, with absolutely no interest in American football.  For many, english is their second language. So while Memorial plays in 5A-D1, their program has the involvement of a Silsbee..........and they still handle business.

Maybe Nederland doesn't have as many students enrolled, but they definitely compete in program size & participation....for now.

I disagree Rich is a good coach. Maybe a good assistant. But as your first head coaching job, this one might not be the one. Maybe a smaller school, with less visibility and a weaker district. I think he's a good guy, just in over his head. He should have started at an Evadale, not the #1 high school rivalry in the nation.

Edited 9 hours ago by Couch.Coach
Added the end part

[Couch.Coach]

21 hours ago, Darth Texas said:

I wouldn’t call last season “very good.” Other than beating PNG, there’s not much to point at. They dropped their last three games, including getting pummeled in the first round. 
 

And, I disagree that Nederland is outmanned athletically. They aren’t. They’re big, well-conditioned, they run to the ball. They can toe up physically with anyone in the district. Nederland doesn’t need to wait for a better crop of players. They have good players right now. The problem is entirely in execution, and that’s on the coaches. 

They slipped from first in district to fourth, by a few plays. Thomas saved them in several games. 

I agree they have good players right now. He just needs to figure out how to get the best players on the field, at all positions. 

 

[Couch.Coach]

On 11/1/2025 at 3:33 PM, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Kids leaving the school or just leaving the program?? 

Both