thetragichippy

[quote name="NB94" post="1294598" timestamp="1349707544"] This is the result of not having a proper draft per STJFL Bylaws. [/quote] So are you accussing the Beaumont Team of breaking the rules because of a score? Really?

[quote name="cantbeat23" post="1294007" timestamp="1349628427"] First off, in that post I say nothing about its all about fundamentals. That was a response to a post that said they lost a 2-0 game due to their pitching being hamstrung and not giving BC any credit for their pitching and defense. 2-0 not 75-0,  that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. you can try and twist this all you want, but the fact of the matter is, it was not right.... [/quote] The FACT is you said and I quote " at this level.. it's about instructing them on the fundamentals of the game, team concept, and good sportsmanship, they are 7&8 yrs olds." Then you post other comments claiming a victory  :o  Either its about the win or it's not. And by the way, I read all 31 one of your post, and only one post even mentioned fundamentals....... Now spin that anyway you want, but that is what you said. I think 75-0 does seem a bit much....BUT I was not there (as you admitted you were not) and the opposing coach was fine with it.  If they did not break any rules, the opposing coach was fine with it, then we should be fine with it.  if you want to be Captain America, instead of griping on this forum, go to an STJFL meeting and stand up for what you think is right. That will help your cause WAY more that stirring the pot in this forum.....

[quote name="cantbeat23" post="1293939" timestamp="1349624613"] 1stdown you are clueless, this is not about how good bmts 1st, 2nd or 3rd string are. this simply put is a lack of sportsmanship on behalf of Bmt. What did they expect to accomplish scoring 75 on png-g ataboys? I don't think so... I believe they blatantly scored 75 to try and prove a point, and they clearly got their point across. But the reality is, all they proved was their lack of class, integrity and respect for the game. In this case the score showed they won the game, but lost thier focus on the big picture and what the stjfl represents and promotes. [/quote] I love going back and looking at peoples post to see how they love to point fingers.....Cantbeat you said it was all about fundamentals but yet I posted a quote from you (that you never responded to) that showed you talking about a peewee game and it was NOT about fundamentals.....  Then there was this quote: [quote author=cantbeat23 link=topic=100778.msg1235514#msg1235514 date=1342148359] Oldballcoach dont hate on BC because they took care of business Thursday and rapped up district 32 in a 3 gm sweep, it's not our fault y'all could'nt handle y'alls, it is what it is, [b][size=14pt]play better is all i can tell ya[/size].[/b] I watched y'all sat against WE and I have to say, i was very impressed with Jasper's bats, but hamstrung on pitching is not the reason y'all lost tue against BC, it was 2-0 let's give BCs pitching and defense a little credit. Besides last I checked you had to score at least 1 run to win a baseball game. Must of forgot those bats in jasper Tuesday. Good luck to y'all and "God Bless" [/quote] ^^^^^^^^so...is this "fundamentals" you speak of????  ^^^^^^^^

[quote name="wish u knew! Don't YA!" post="1293629" timestamp="1349579964"] [quote author=Bambam10 link=topic=103944.msg1293141#msg1293141 date=1349561202] 28 to 6 ?? I guess they are a litter faster than u thought! [/quote] No, not at all!![quote author=thetragichippy link=topic=103944.msg1293189#msg1293189 date=1349564196] [quote author=wish u knew! Don't YA! link=topic=103944.msg1287401#msg1287401 date=1349044405] [quote author=bradyb link=topic=103944.msg1287390#msg1287390 date=1349043156] [quote author=wish u knew! Don't YA! link=topic=103944.msg1287222#msg1287222 date=1349023955] BIG SCHOOL 1. PNG-W.......VERY GOOD TEAM, will win it all 2. Lumberton-W.... Good D, well coached    3. PNG-P ....Solid Team            4. Lumberton-B... Good D, play calling? 5. Nederland... Don't count them out 6. Vidor.... up and down, you never know what team your gonna get 7. Beaumont... plays hard till the end you can put 2-5 in any order! SMALL SCHOOL 1. WOS 2. BC 3. Orangefield 4. LC 5. Kountze [/quote] I agree with all but Lum blue is not 4th.. It's hard to rank them but in my eyes it would be 1st/2nd Lum W/ Lum B 3rd PNG W PNG P [/quote] hey bradyb, if you don't know PNG-W is 5-0. So how do you have them 3rd. [/quote] Hey "wish u knew"......what did you think of Lumberton blues play calling?  8) [/quote] Same as what I thought! Great game to both teams. Hopefully we will see yall again. [b]Maybe will have all our players back then.[/b] [/quote] Excuse???

[quote name="cantbeat23" post="1293633" timestamp="1349580073"] It's obvious y'all just don't get it, I don't care how good Bmt b is you just don't do that at this level.. it's about instructing them on the fundamentals of the game, team concept, and good sportsmanship, they are 7&8 yrs olds. [/quote] [quote author=cantbeat23 link=topic=102096.msg1252405#msg1252405 date=1346077318] OF#4 REALLY!! C'MON OCHO DONT LET THAT SCORE DESTORT YOUR JUDGEMENT LOL! THEY PLAYED A PRETTY WEAK WOS WHITE TEAM  AND ONLY WON 18-0. OF IS NOT VERY BIG, BUT WOS WHITE LOOKED EVEN SMALLER THAN THEM, BUT THEY DO HAVE SOME SPEED AND THEY ARE WELL COACHED,  BUT I WOULDNT PUT THEM # 4 JUST YET LET THEM PLAY A TEAM THATS BIG WITH SOME ATHLETES ON IT AND IF THEY WIN THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL I GIVE THEM CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. [/quote] Might want to practice what you preach........ Didn't you say it's about instructing them on the fundamentals of the game, team concept, and good sportsmanship, they are 7&8 yrs olds. 8)

[quote name="Tarheel23" post="1293210" timestamp="1349565527"] 42-20 final. Way to go lum-blue!! [/quote] Great Job Lumberton Blue!!!

[quote name="wish u knew! Don't YA!" post="1287401" timestamp="1349044405"] [quote author=bradyb link=topic=103944.msg1287390#msg1287390 date=1349043156] [quote author=wish u knew! Don't YA! link=topic=103944.msg1287222#msg1287222 date=1349023955] BIG SCHOOL 1. PNG-W.......VERY GOOD TEAM, will win it all 2. Lumberton-W.... Good D, well coached    3. PNG-P ....Solid Team            4. Lumberton-B... Good D, play calling? 5. Nederland... Don't count them out 6. Vidor.... up and down, you never know what team your gonna get 7. Beaumont... plays hard till the end you can put 2-5 in any order! SMALL SCHOOL 1. WOS 2. BC 3. Orangefield 4. LC 5. Kountze [/quote] I agree with all but Lum blue is not 4th.. It's hard to rank them but in my eyes it would be 1st/2nd Lum W/ Lum B 3rd PNG W PNG P [/quote] hey bradyb, if you don't know PNG-W is 5-0. So how do you have them 3rd. [/quote] Hey "wish u knew"......what did you think of Lumberton blues play calling?  8)

Lumberton W  14 kountze            7

Based on what I seen last night at Lumberton.....it's gonna be ugly...... I have not seen stats, but it seemed like between interceptions and fumbles, they turned over the ball 10 times.....

[quote name="elhector1" post="1289649" timestamp="1349280297"] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=103796.msg1289586#msg1289586 date=1349275696] [quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1289569#msg1289569 date=1349274668] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=103796.msg1289528#msg1289528 date=1349272201] [quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1289524#msg1289524 date=1349271967] I think holding your kid accountable is part of parenting...you hold him accountable for his performance here and in the classroom...nothing wrong with that... Do you hold him accountable, though, if he does everything as he is supposed to, and then the team still loses big?  Or because someone thinks they are "dogs"?...Sadly, smash, [b]there are some out there that do[/b]...having nothing to do with performance, and instead bust their kids on perception... [/quote] You may OR may not be correct in your [b]assumption[/b]...however, that will go on (if it is even the case) whether or not silly point spreads are projected. Why don't you just advocate getting rid of keeping score in Pee Wee age ball altogether? [/quote] Winning and losing is part of growing up...scores are part of that... Dogging a team before the game, though...that's different.  Having worked with kids, they know when they are being dogged.  As adults, we deal with insults all day long, and dish right back.  How does a kid that sees this though, (and you know they will) insult someone like Ocho back, since he is an adult?  On the field for sure, but how does that play here?  Maybe an "Ocho gets dogged" thread when he is way wrong? [/quote] Do you wear panties? [/quote] Nope...adult "Underoos" with pictures of a young Pamela Anderson on them...quite comfortable, really... [/quote] ;D :o

[quote name="SmashMouth" post="1289523" timestamp="1349271879"] [quote author=thetragichippy link=topic=103796.msg1289504#msg1289504 date=1349270820] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=103796.msg1289489#msg1289489 date=1349269973] [quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1287167#msg1287167 date=1349017470] [quote author=First Down link=topic=103796.msg1287145#msg1287145 date=1349016346] [quote author=Ocho link=topic=103796.msg1283974#msg1283974 date=1348837286] -Favs / + Dogs Lum R vs Ned G (-14) Lum W vs Bmt G (+20) Png G vs WOS W (-6) Png P vs Ned W (-27) Png W vs Ned B (-22) BC R vs Ktz (+6) BC W vs BMT B (-48) LC vs VID (+16) OF W vs OF O (+13) [/quote] Is this the line that Vegas has set. ::) Point spreads on Pee Wee football?    C'mon Man!!! [/quote] If all of us that read this board were well balanced adults, capable of loving our kids without any of it relating to ball, I could see this as "tongue in cheek", and even fun.  I see this though, as something way serious, and not "for fun"...I can see some crazy daddy or momma, though, taking these numbers way too seriously, and abusing their kid over it.  No, the author of the spreads didn't beat the kid, but can it be a contributing factor?  Just look at the mentality of some in Tustin, CA... [/quote] When the game is over, my son and I break down the film together and evaluate his performance. If he doesn't perform to his abilities, he is punished. What's wrong with that? Shouldn't he be accountable for his performance??? [/quote] joking? If not...... It's a game.  I usually agree with your post but not this one. We also watch the film and look at his individual performance. We point out his good plays and discuss what he could of done better. The only punishment he would EVER get would be losing his starting position.......or hard agility drills on Mondays practice...... [/quote] Of course, I was just joking. I was pointing out how ridiculous elhector's comments about the social  harms of point spreads on a meaningless social board sound by posting an equally ridiculous comment about punishing my son for a poor performance.  In reality, win or lose, I hug him and kiss him square on the lips (I'm not a pedophile either, elhector) and I tell him how proud of him I am. We may or may not watch the film together, and I may tell him if I thought he played to his potential, but I never degrade or demean him because of a football game. I have been known to slap him around or touch a hot iron to the bottom of his feet for a bad practice though... ;D [/quote] I guess I didn't have my coffee this morning..... Bottom line....Its all in fun....... I think elhector1's point is the minority....I think 99.9% of the parents love their kids and would not hurt them over a game of football.

[quote name="SmashMouth" post="1289489" timestamp="1349269973"] [quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1287167#msg1287167 date=1349017470] [quote author=First Down link=topic=103796.msg1287145#msg1287145 date=1349016346] [quote author=Ocho link=topic=103796.msg1283974#msg1283974 date=1348837286] -Favs / + Dogs Lum R vs Ned G (-14) Lum W vs Bmt G (+20) Png G vs WOS W (-6) Png P vs Ned W (-27) Png W vs Ned B (-22) BC R vs Ktz (+6) BC W vs BMT B (-48) LC vs VID (+16) OF W vs OF O (+13) [/quote] Is this the line that Vegas has set. ::) Point spreads on Pee Wee football?    C'mon Man!!! [/quote] If all of us that read this board were well balanced adults, capable of loving our kids without any of it relating to ball, I could see this as "tongue in cheek", and even fun.  I see this though, as something way serious, and not "for fun"...I can see some crazy daddy or momma, though, taking these numbers way too seriously, and abusing their kid over it.  No, the author of the spreads didn't beat the kid, but can it be a contributing factor?  Just look at the mentality of some in Tustin, CA... [/quote] When the game is over, my son and I break down the film together and evaluate his performance. If he doesn't perform to his abilities, he is punished. What's wrong with that? Shouldn't he be accountable for his performance??? [/quote] joking? If not...... It's a game.  I usually agree with your post but not this one. We also watch the film and look at his individual performance. We point out his good plays and discuss what he could of done better. The only punishment he would EVER get would be losing his starting position.......or hard agility drills on Mondays practice......

hmmm...work computer.....got it now

[quote name="bwl4335" post="1289163" timestamp="1349214448"] [quote author=thetragichippy link=topic=103700.msg1289150#msg1289150 date=1349213773] [quote author=Birddogtx link=topic=103700.msg1288687#msg1288687 date=1349185491] Scores are up! [/quote] It appears only Jr.'s scores are up. I guess they are waiting to go 3 weeks behind before they post the stats......It builds tension....... ::) [/quote] They have all been up since this morning.  ??? [/quote] Not Senior.......... 2012 STJFL Senior Tackle League Standings Last Updated on Monday, September 17, 2012 10:27 PM 2012 STJFL Senior Tackle Schedule Last Updated on Monday, September 17, 2012 10:27 PM Just so you think I'm not crazy....... 2012 STJFL Junior Tackle Schedule Last Updated on Monday, October 01, 2012 10:35 PM  :o

[quote name="Birddogtx" post="1288687" timestamp="1349185491"] Scores are up! [/quote] It appears only Jr.'s scores are up. I guess they are waiting to go 3 weeks behind before they post the stats......It builds tension....... ::)

[quote name="bradyb" post="1288666" timestamp="1349184398"] [quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103771.msg1288303#msg1288303 date=1349132292] If every parent were normal and took it like Tragichippy did, I would almost agree... For the older kids, 13-14, this is part of the game...ehhhh, no it's not.  Spreads are for betting, and if there is betting going on which uses the spreads posted here, it IS a violation of the rules... That would be the least of it... Again, if every parent were normal, 1.  They wouldn't take the sport seriously, and remember that it is a game; 2.  They wouldn't give their kids grief over it, but we know better, don't we? 3.  Coaches wouldn't get stpid like they did in Tustin, CA.  You want to know what lessons will be learned from that?  Just that you have to find a better way to keep it on the down low, and you have to vet the dads and moms a lot better to insure that there isn't a wuss in there somewhere to mess up the sanctity of football. I've coached before...my job was to get those kids ready to play ball, and have a good time doing it.  (Of course, I was a flag coach).  It wasn't to win at all costs, it wasn't to make the other team look like fools.  Though even in the flag ranks there were those who would teach their kids to tackle a breakaway run instead of pulling their flags, I didn't teach that.  If I was a bad coach, so be it.  My job wasn't to wear tight polyester shorts and shirt, and my old letterman's jacket, while pointing to all the flag, pee wee, and other trophies MY PLAYERS had won.  If they earned them, awesome...but at the end of the year, it was the best feeling to have a kid want to come back the following year, because I gave a d*** as a coach. Spreads?  Good for putting on bread, and bookies... [/quote] Lol I'm pretty sure the spreads that the people do on here has nothing to do with gambling lol. Pretty sure it is their opinion on how many points a team will win by lol [/quote] Good post Elhector, and I also agree with you to a certain point.  I also agree with Braby (and REALLY hope we are correct) in stating that there is no gambling going on with the spreads.....I think it's all for fun.... I've been very fortunate to have worked with coaches that do put the kids first and teach the game. I know there are bad seeds out there, I just hope it's minimal.

[quote name="Farmer Fran" post="1288130" timestamp="1349120618"] [quote author=hvac_setx link=topic=103771.msg1283455#msg1283455 date=1348775959] Here's my take for Juniors (picks in RED): [color=#ff0000]LUM-R[/color] vs.    NED-G    (+24) [color=#ff0000]LUM-W [/color] vs.    BMT-G  (+40) PNG-G vs.      [color=#ff0000]VID-W[/color]  (-8)  PNG-P  vs.    [color=#ff0000]NED-B [/color]  (-24) [color=#ff0000]PNG-W[/color]  vs.    BMT-B    (+12) BC-R  vs.    [color=#ff0000]KTZ[/color]  (-18)  [color=#ff0000]BC-W[/color] vs.      VID-B    (+6) LC vs.    [color=#ff0000]WOS  [/color](-21)  [color=#ff0000]OF  [/color]vs.    NED-W  (+14) [/quote] Vegas has set the line.. ::) Point spreads on pee wee football. Unfreakin real!!! ::) ::) [/quote] I use to think the same thing........but it's all in fun...... I don't predict scores, but I see no harm in it....it's not breaking any rules.. and this is Jr. not peewee  ;)

[quote name="wish u knew! Don't YA!" post="1287115" timestamp="1349013000"] [quote author=CowboysNIndians link=topic=103579.msg1286907#msg1286907 date=1348973880] Is that a final on L-town? [/quote] YES, BIG game next week.... PNG-W vs Lumbeton-B, I will have to give eage to PNG-W. Looks like White was able to shut down Lumberton-B fullback.  PNG-W will do the same. With no speed to get around outside PNG-W 30-Lumberton-B 18... [/quote] you still have to score ;)

fumble for a RAIDER touch down..... 8)

[quote name="First Down" post="1284872" timestamp="1348880630"] [quote author=thetragichippy link=topic=103813.msg1284864#msg1284864 date=1348880539] 13 -7 Raiders [/quote] :o :o [/quote] Crickets ;D

13 -7 Raiders

3 plays 56 yards...TD RAIDERS  :o

[quote name="Bobby Boucher" post="1284807" timestamp="1348879939"] Better find out who those boys are in the Raiders uniforms....no way they scored a TD. [/quote] lol

[quote name="PN-G bamakid" post="1284769" timestamp="1348879525"] TD Indians; 7-0 Port Neches-Groves 5:45 1st [/quote] TD Raiders....... 8) Tied 7-7 :-*

[quote name="Bmt Pride" post="1280954" timestamp="1348514483"] maybe i should have started with a disclaimer in this day and age. lol Bmt Pride can not be held responsible for, and expressly disclaims all liability for, damages of any kind arising out of use, reference to, or reliance of any information writing on this site. While the information may be fact, fiction, opinion or just simply pure smack talk, no guarantee is given that the information provided is correct, complete, and/or up-to-date.  ;D ;D ;D [/quote] +1