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Just now, PlayActionPass said:

So you are saying a star baseball SHOULD be doing full contact football drills during the baseball season as his Baseball team prepares for the playoffs?

of course not.  Kinda got the impression you were for it.

It's common knowledge that this sort of thing happens on ranches, out in the country, etc.  I'd be willing to bet that a good number of people who participate in this forum have had to do something similar. That said, she's an absolute moron for putting it in a book, period.  The act of killing the dog can be justified, especially for those of us familiar with how life on a ranch/farm works,  but publicizing it is inexcusable for someone in her position.  I honestly have no clue what she was thinking.  60% percent of the country already doesn't like trump, and now his most likely running mate has a major controversy over killing a dog.  Pure stupidity.

Just now, PlayActionPass said:

Hmm.....

I tend to disagree.

I was a multi sport athlete in High School and am now a coach.

Kid is not going to be a very good hitter if he only hits in the spring and summer, I took BP and threw (to keep my arm in shape) during football and basketball season.

Kid is not going to be a very good QB, WR or DB if he only throws passes, runs routes or covers receivers in the fall or during a few 7 on 7 games after baseball is over.

And a kid is never going to be good shooter of the basketball if he only shoots during the basketball season.

Skills are honed, not mastered, they need to be developed and practiced repeatedly.

There are times when certain things are appropriate, and when they are not.  We can agree to disagree on the appropriateness of star baseball players doing contact football drills in the days leading up the baseball playoffs.  

Just now, Right99JOH said:

Would you rather have multi-sport athletes doing drills during school that are being ran/controlled by coaches or have kids playing fall ball with little to no supervision?!?!? 

are you suggesting that if the football coach runs spring drills then the kids won't play fall ball without supervision?  Because if not, this argument has no relevance.  One doesn't take the place of the other.  one the AD has control of, the other he just tries to.  

Just now, SmashMouth said:

I'll concede a hair. "A good AD should be taking care of all athletes" as long as football is the primary focus. And that's not because I'm a football guy. That's just the way it is.

and I'll concede that this is more realistic.  but a good AD can make football the primary focus without messing with the success of other sports.

Just now, SmashMouth said:

That's exactly what I'm opining. In 2022 PN-G went to state in football, right? They went 3-6 in district in baseball that same year. I bet the only one that knows that stat either played baseball that year or looked it up. I don't think the baseball record hurt the AD's street cred.

but they're 10-3 this year.  playoffs in basically everything except boys and girls basketball, which i mean, that's understandable.  and from what I'm hearing, the different programs feel supported over there.  which is kind of the point of the athletic director.  It's not the football director.

Just now, SmashMouth said:

I think this whole discussion is getting overly hyped. My son played 3 sports and went on to play college football (still in school). I played 4 sports and went on to play college football. Neither of us (separated by 30+ years) got anything but support from our respective AD's and coaches.

I played 3 sports and went on to play college soccer.  But the football coach wasn't having me do contact drills (or kicking drills) in the middle of soccer district, jeopardizing my soccer playoffs, either.  I think that's the issue here.  All of the guys on here who pretty much only care about football think that's the way the AD should run things, and a good AD should be taking care of all athletes and making sure all teams are as successful as possible.  

Just now, SmashMouth said:

Can't blame the AD. Texas is a Football mecca. If an AD does poorly in football, but decent in baseball, he may be looking for another job soon. If he does great in football, then no one really cares what happens with baseball, generally speaking. He's trying to keep a job and bolster his resume' for the next chance to promote his career.

Texas is a football mecca, but a good AD still does more than win at just football.  this isn't 30 years ago.  screwing over other programs and only concentrating on football is not a recipe for promotion.  You can't tell me that these big time jobs aren't going to look beyond football record when they have hundreds of applications? 

Just now, Right99JOH said:

"AD's don't allow them to play"  that's false.  I've watched many of fall ball games and I can name 3 or 4 SETX teams that had football players on the team. 

ADs don't allow them to do school baseball drills in the middle of football season, though.  so the double standard is still there.

On 4/27/2024 at 9:06 AM, TradenupBH said:

Hate to tell everyone, but if your kid plays college baseball, he will be lifting weights in season and sometimes heavy. Also a lot of running. Carry on…. 

but will he be doing contact football drills mid-season?

28 minutes ago, Bigdog said:

Not really,  most of the people I played with were multi-sport athletes.  This specialization stuff didn’t start until later.  No one was blamed if someone got hurt in one sport and missed time in another. Life happens.

That was in response to his assertion that athletes not be able to run because they might pull a muscle. 

4 minutes ago, Reagan said:

The point of me saying fair, is that I was just curious why this person thought it should be in the political section.  Maybe he/she can convince us.  🤷‍♂️

I'm not convinced.  High school football is the best place for this, and if he actually wants responses, it shouldn't be an issue for me to move it, which is what I'm doing.  That said, I swear there was a thread on this very thing started before there.  

13 minutes ago, Unbelievableee said:

Whew man! I guess kids should not run during athletics because they might pull a muscle or roll an ankle and be out of their in season sport. What a joke

an intentionally dense oversimplification of the issue at hand.

7 hours ago, Englebert said:

I think we are on the same page on most things, but almost polar opposites regarding how Trump will act as president.

I hope you are right on the revenge thing. I hope he nails them to the wall. God knows they deserve it.

I’m fine with him doing stuff legally.  Both sides have set precedents the last 10 years are so that have taken most of the decorum and decency out of politics.  It’s always been dirty, but it’s downright filthy business now.  

7 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

I think I would be more concerned with the folks that are actually doing what you are talking about rather than a very very slim to more likely no chance that Trump will engage in same behavior.

I’m more concerned about the current, but nothing about the way trump has acted towards republicans who have “crossed him” leads me to believe that he won’t do everything he can to get back at people.  He can’t run again if he wins, and he seems more unhinged than 8 years ago, so I don’t know what’ll stop him.  I guess if he wins we’ll find out.  

34 minutes ago, Englebert said:

It would shock me beyond belief if he tried to. Now, I hope and pray he appoints people that will investigate, charge, and imprison anyone found guilty of the crimes against him...including treason. I would be all for a special task force charged solely with the task of investigating crimes against Trump. Of course the Democrats will be screaming bloody murder that Trump is weaponizing the government against them. We all know the story. From a cursory standpoint, there seems to be a plethora of evidence to lock up many Democrats for a long time. Unless this is done, I see no end to destruction of our political system...and this country.

he'll 1000% abuse this if elected and given the chance.  he's like a petulant little kid.  again, I'm voting for his policy, but he's all about revenge against slights and wrongs, both real and perceived.  

1 minute ago, Englebert said:

Both sides...that is, everyone tries to get their people elected. Trump has not weaponized the government to bankrupt and imprison his political opponents. Night and day difference for me.

There is a difference, but I wouldn't at all put it past Trump to do so if he had the infrastructure in place to get away with it like the Dems currently do.  With the amount of effort he's invested in ruining those republicans who've opposed him, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

1 hour ago, Englebert said:

 

I'm glad Trump is the nominee and future president. I think one of our most pressing crisis right now is the corruption in our goverenment (FBI, DOJ, IRS, etc) and in the Democrat party. They have sunk to banana republic tactics, and if nothing is done, they will continue these methods. Imprisoning and bankrupting political opponents should not and cannot be tolerated. These things can and will topple a great nation. I don't know if Trump will go after the Demcrats and the goverment agencies that have gone after him, but he definitely has the motive to do it. I don't think any of the other Republican candidates would seek justice against these anti-Americans. As a bonus, Trumps policies have been shown to be a great boon for our country (and nobody on here can prove that to be wrong). I fear that without retribution to what the Democrats have done, this country is on a speedy and unstoppable downward spiral. I think my hatred of what the Democrats have done to our country is greater than the hatred CardinalBacker has for Trump. Well, I shouldn't get carried too far away.

 

 

 

Surely you're aware of the great lengths Trump has gone to disrupt the elections and destroy the careers of republican politicians who haven't supported some of his most outlandish claims, or dared to question him or disagree with him about January 6.  You and I actually agree on this issue, although it must only go one way for you, because Trump's actions against republicans who didn't fall into lockstep with him is one of my biggest concerns about reelecting him.  The fact that he took action to affect literally hundreds of republican primaries from national elections down to municipal levels across the country, is concerning. It would've been one thing had he done it in an effort to help republicans win. Instead his purpose was to push out his perceived detractors and install MAGA politicians at every level of government in as many places as possible, and has resulted in a fractured republican party.

"Most American voters have little confidence that 

Pretty much sums it up for me.  I'll take the unethical guy and hope that he sticks with similar policy to what he did the first time, but no way i actually trust him.  It's still mind-blowing to me that this is the matchup we have for the second election running.

1 hour ago, SmashMouth said:

Just asking, because I'm not aware of any, but was any of that list perpetrated while he was in office?

Intentionally keeping top secret documents haphazardly around the house comes to mind.  A lot of what came out of his mouth, torpedoing the political careers of republicans who didn’t fall in line?  I don’t know that he all of a sudden became a beacon of moral light and goodness just because he got into office. Again, we’re not talking about policy, but what kind of person he is.  If anything he seemed to get worse once he was in power as far as I could see.  

51 minutes ago, outanup said:

Little Johnny that plays baseball all year can get hurt too...Tommy John is a thing. Bball is  played alot once the school season is over. Who gets the BLAME for all those injuries? NOBODY, stuff happens......Certainly can't blame a HC/AD who is trying to better his program.....

I get all of the arguments, but part of being the AD is doing what’s best for all of your programs, not just football.  And it’s not best for the baseball program for one of its best players to be hurt doing football drills right before the baseball playoffs.  There are things he can be doing to get ready for football that don’t risk injury.   And I also stand by the opinion that the football coach would not be happy at all if the kid got hurt in the middle of football season at a fall practice for varsity baseball. In fact I’d bet a whole lot of money that that player wouldn’t be allowed to participate in that baseball practice to begin with.  I think a lot of the people that are okay with this would also be upset if the situation and sports were reversed, because they’re only really worried about football.  But that’s just my opinion. 

58 minutes ago, Right99JOH said:

I see it from both ends of the spectrum.  I don't think the coach/es should take the brunt of the blame. 

Kinda depends for me.  Did coach mandate it?  Tell the player he better show up?  Or did the player want/choose to be there?

49 minutes ago, Dawg22 said:

So what's your thoughts on in season lifting?

It better be mild.  It's necessary during football season, but you shouldn't have other sport athletes going crazy on the weights in the middle of their other seasons.  There's plenty of off season.

2 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

I have been ignoring them for a while now, like everything else, they have become more and more skewed by ideology, rather than pure research, even the so-called bipartisan polls.

i think this is true to some degree.  I even think various news sources (on both sides) will tout the ones that they think will galvanize voters, whether they reflect well or poorly on their candidate.