bullets13
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29 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:
Understood. I'm just saying, give the dog away to someone who doesn't have chickens. Lol. It seems pretty self-evident.
If it was actually a chicken killer, i have zero problem with putting down. if she's lying to make what she did more acceptable, that's a different issue. If it actually was a chicken killer, then she's a moron for putting it in her book. If it wasn't, she's a bad person for shooting the dog. She could've easily given away the dog, but based on her writings she REAALLLLY didn't like the dog. That said, I kinda doubt that 20 years ago she was thinking about her actions preventing her from receiving the VP nom.
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2 hours ago, baddog said:
What’s bad about the media is that they will only report “worthless and untrainable” while totally overlooking “killed and eaten several chickens”. It’s what journalism has come to be; reporting half truths and omitting crucial facts. What could be better?
As I’ve said a few times on here, there may be some witnesses around that might dispute the chicken part. We’ll see how it plays out
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17 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:
I guess it's like Trump and Biden, I can drill down to the policies and votes rather than get sidetracked by decorum.
AOC is dangerous, don't see MTG as a danger at all, more annoying than anything.
She expected Mike Johnson to keep his promises and he's in a position where he can't do it and she's not letting up, which she eventually will have to.
good news is as best I can tell AOC is a lot less dangerous than she was. A lot of the momentum has gone out of that ultra wacko movement she's such an important part of. Ultra lefties getting run out of offices all over the country these days.
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11 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:
MTG is out there sometimes, but I haven't heard her mentioning defund the police or praising hamas.
MTG is a little nutty, AOC is flat out dangerous.
I'd argue the way MTG carries herself and the lack of respect and decorum she has is dangerous in a different way. And she's not a little nutty, she's a whole fruitcake. Would love to see both of them replaced, regardless.
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I don't agree with your assertion, but MTG is the right's response to AOC. what a couple of morons.
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4 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:
Sounds like it was both, according to her. Not sure who could confirm or deny the chickens part.
From the article baddog posted:
Outrage spread across social media platforms late last week after The Guardian reported on an excerpt from Noem's upcoming memoir "No Going Back," which is set to be released on May 7. In the excerpt, Noem described taking her 14-month-old female dog, Cricket, to a "gravel pit" near her farm and shooting her because it was "less than worthless," "untrainable" and had killed and eaten several chickens.
She said Cricket had ruined a pheasant hunt when she went "out of her mind with excitement, chasing all those birds and having the time of her life."
yeah, the article from Baddog is quoting her book, so basically repeating her story. the question is whether or not her story matches what has been known in SD political circles for years, and it sounds like maybe it does not.
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44 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:
That was my take on it when it came out, whether killing chickens or bad hunting dog, it wasn't going to sit well with many and she was simply beating them to the punch.
I was really confused at first at how a bunch of people would know about her killing a dog on her ranch, until I heard the story itself, which I didn't find particularly believable. Then when I started reading some accounts that made it sound like she was just mad that it messed up her bird hunt and was tough to train, and that multiple people had seen some or all of this, her coming out with the story for seemingly no reason made a lot more sense.
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46 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:
Talk from who? Who was actually there that has knowledge of this that is speaking on it?
multiple politicians from South Dakota have come out and stated that this event was well known in SD political circles. It's also being stated that multiple people witnessed it. Personally, I'd love to hear from them and the family who's chicken's were supposedly eaten. Would clear up a lot, but I doubt it would change much one way or another.
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11 hours ago, tvc184 said:
After all my years of responding to calls, how many times did horrific injuries occur by a dog…. that was friendly and has never done anything like this!!
It makes you sick yet terribly angry. It’s horrifying.
Some dogs need to go, period.
But that isn’t politics…..
totally agree, but there sure is a lot of talk that this dog may not have been one of them.
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17 hours ago, Englebert said:
If the voting public is so flaky that 3/4 will turn against her because of this news, why didn't they also turn on Obama when it was discovered that he actually ate dog? Maybe because the media didn't play up his transgressions?
And if that is the case, how much power does the media have? They can sink a career for killing a dog, but dismiss and bury a story of eating a dog?
How influential would the media be if someone other that Trump won the nomination. Let's say DeSantis was the Republican frontrunner...how easy would it be for the media to bury his candidacy...instead of him having that perceived cakewalk to president?
I'm just thinking out loud.
you're doing exactly what you're mad at the media for doing. you complain about their double standards, but then you're comparing Obama eating dog in a dog-eating country as a small child to Noem shooting a dog as an adult. I don't like Obama, but give me a break on that comparison. And let's be clear here, the media didn't sink Noem's career. She sunk it herself. Not sure why all of you guys are conveniently ignoring it, but there's a whole lot of talk that her dog wasn't a chicken killer at all, and that she just shot it because it wasn't a good hunting dog and she didn't like it. If it was eating people's chickens, I have no issue with it, but it's looking more and more like she was trying to get ahead of things and fashion her own narrative before the actual story came out. for what it's worth, that's the only way her decision to publish this stuff makes any sense at all. Nobody will ever convince me that she and her handlers thought adding that story was a good idea, and had no ulterior motive to do so. The reaction to it is the most predictable thing ever, even if the most conservative among us are just totally disgusted that 3/4 of the country disagrees with her actions.
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1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said:
She's a Republican so I'm sure the media will ethically and responsibly report the story.
no doubt they'll make it as bad as possible, but it sounds like they may be able to just report the facts. Heck, what she self-reported was enough to turn 3/4 of the country against her, and it sounds a very real possibility that her version of events is inaccurate in an effort to justify her actions.
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14 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:
Like I said earlier, the democrats were sitting on this waiting for the right time.
Depending on what actually happened, she may deserve whatever she gets. It sounds like there's a pretty credible chance that she shot the dog for basically no reason, in contrast to how she's trying to spin it.
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Also, multiple sources out of the trump camp are saying she has zero shot at the nomination now.
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For what it’s worth, there’s some talk that this incident is pretty well known about in SD and she was trying to get out in front of it. That story goes that she just got pissed at the dog because it messed up her hunt and she was having trouble training it, and now she’s trying to spin it into something more justifiable. There’s supposedly witnesses. If that’s the case, it’s a whole other issue. I’d sure like to hear from the family that owned the chickens the dog is supposed to have eaten at this point.
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2 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:
If only she was as politically savvy as you.
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Appreciate the confidence. Why don’t we see how this works out for her. Going great so far. She MIGHT be able to get re-elected in South Dakota next election, but if a good candidate runs against her in the Republican primaries she may be in trouble. I don’t think there’s a chance in hades she gets the VP nomination, and if for some reason Trump is dumb enough to give it to her, his chances of winning are probably over. On a positive note, maybe DeSantis gets it now? If they win and do a decent job then we’d have a VP ready to run for president in four years with a good shot of winning.
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1 minute ago, LumRaiderFan said:
I’m nothing blaming anyone, I’m simply saying I’m ok with it.
I honestly don’t have an issue with it. I grew up around livestock. We had a neighbor lose nearly 30 animals in a 3-week period before they caught the dogs doing it. Those dogs needed to die. I was there when my uncle killed a dog that was eating his chickens… didn’t bother me. If one of my dogs ever bites one of my kids it’ll be dead. Immediately. But some things are better left unsaid, and probably 90% of the country loves dogs, with only a small fraction of them being able to relate to why she did what she did.
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53 minutes ago, baddog said:
Well, the ones who are upset by this are the same ones who can’t define a woman. There was another woman who everybody came down on for hunting. We are a nation of the offended.
Lots of republicans are giving her hell over this. An overwhelming majority of moderates aren’t going to like it, and obviously the over offended left hates it. She’s tanked her shot at VP, whoever you want to blame. I stated in an early post that I don’t have an issue with some dogs being taken out if they’re biting and killing animals. But it’s not your opinion or mine that is going to matter on this one.
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1 minute ago, LumRaiderFan said:
There you go again, bragging? smh
I think your poll numbers are bogus, to poll this soon obviously had a purpose, surely you see that.
I guess she decided to be honest, I thought that’s what we want in politicians, I guess not.
She should have said she had a full term abortion, that would have gone over much better than putting down a bad dog.
She didn’t need to be honest, she needed to leave it out of her book. And you can say what you want about the poll, but the majority of folks didn’t grow up dealing with dogs and livestock, and you’re never going to make them understand. I used the term bragging because she’s saying she told the story to show she can “make tough decisions.” So apparently she thinks it’s a good thing she did, and she wanted others to know about it. But most people don’t agree. There are plenty of republicans attacking her over this, so you can’t just blame it on the over sensitive left.
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For what it’s worth, polling after this came out show her with an 81% disapproval rating. Only 21% of republicans said she’d be a good choice for veep, and only 28% of self-identified “very conservative” voters said she’s a good option. Bragging about killing a dog apparently resonates poorly across political affiliations.
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48 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:
I like the approach, here it is, if you don’t like it don’t vote for me, it’s refreshing to see the Ronald Reagan approach.
Not every statement needs to be based on a perceived reaction from folks.
Don’t think for a minute democrats didn’t have this knowledge, just not the right time to use it, remember Romney and the dog carrier, they knew.
They don’t, and they won’t. May not be an issue in South Dakota, but certainly is on the national stage. Even my mother in law, who strictly watches OAN and thinks Trump is a great guy who’s never committed a crime in his life is completely disgusted by this. I know about bad dogs, and don’t have an issue with what she did, and I’m sure most of us on here agree. But as is often this case, it’s not going to be our opinions that decide this election. I thought she might be a valuable running mate that could bring in the female vote, but I’m hoping Trump has the sense to stay away from her now.
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59 minutes ago, Reagan said:
She put this in her book to show she's not afraid of making the tough decisions.
A better decision would’ve been finding a better example of that and leaving it out of her book. I have no issue with someone putting down a bird killer, but 3/4 of the country doesn’t understand anything about that, and it sounds horrible to them.
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53 minutes ago, baddog said:
I don’t know bullets. In this day and age I think it best to publicize a potential skeleton in your closet rather than have it discovered down the road where it would be perceived as “hiding” a fact. This would only be fuel for the uninformed.
In certain things I’d agree, but I don’t think anyone would ever find out about this unless she told someone. If it was going to come out the dems would’ve drug it up the second her name started being mentioned as VP. And like I said, growing up the way I did, I know that it’s necessary sometimes, and if hers was eating chickens and biting people, it needed to go. I don’t have an issue with it, but it’s the sort of thing that’s gonna upset pretty much everyone who didn’t grow up with dogs on a farm or ranch.
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Just now, PlayActionPass said:
No Sir
Non Contact Drills, probably not a big deal.
But even 7 on 7 with pads or just helmets is a recipe for disaster.
Non padded 7 on 7 in a controlled environment, maybe.
well then I'm with you on the other stuff you stated. I don't at all have an issue with a basketball player getting some jump shots in during football, or some easy BP swings, etc. But I don't want basketball players doing box out drills, batters facing live pitching, etc during football, and vice versa on football drills during those seasons. I guess I should've clarified my original post with the caveat that I don't think they should be doing major work in multiple school sports at the same time.
Kristi Noem Kills Dog
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i hate these types of arguments. a completely unrelated act doesn't mean anything here, but I guess it's a good way to "make a point", because this isn't the only site that people are bringing it up. she didn't have an abortion, she killed a dog, under questionable circumstances. For reasons that nobody can understand she bragged about it in a book, and for reasons I personally can't understand, conservative republicans are treating her account as gospel. Regardless of what actually happened, she's a moron for informing the general public all about her ability to "make the tough decisions", and certainly one for shooting a dog and a goat back to back in front of strangers, regardless of the circumstances.