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    Hagar got a reaction from mat in Congress Votes To Ban Confed Flag   
    It amazing LRF.  All because a sorry lowlife nutcase (in lieu of the cuss words he deserves) killed 9 good Christians, and had a confederate flag behind him in a picture.  If it was a poster of Dineyworld, would we condemn it & all who go there?
    if they want to start a movement to lynch Dylann Roof, I'd be all for it (and may God forgive me)!
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    Hagar reacted to PN-G bamatex in Congress Votes To Ban Confed Flag   
    I understand the push to take the Confederate flag down at the South Carolina and Alabama state capitols. But the Dukes? Really?
     
    I get that to a lot of people in this country, the Confederate battle flag is a symbol of racism - it's hard for black Americans not to interpret it that way when some of the most famous pictures of the most vehement racists of the twentieth century, like George Wallace, feature massive Confederate flags flying all over the place. The internet is covered with images of the flag at KKK rallies, past and present.
     
    But I also get that to millions of Southerners, many of whom are black as well, the flag is a symbol of Southern regional pride. To them, it's meant to identify a particular region, not a racial superiority complex. Charlie Daniels wrote one of the most interesting pieces I've read about this particular issue, in which he talked about growing up in the South during the 1930s, when most people in the United States looked down on the region and its inhabitants. To him, the flag symbolized the pride Southerners held in stark defiance of the condescending views adopted by Americans in other regions of the country. In the same way that the South has embraced the "redneck" persona despite the term's once pejorative connotation, the flag, to many Southerners, was a way to maintain some sort of pride while being looked down upon by everyone else - this is literally the exact same reason college football is so big in the South (seriously, look that up). This is true among even some of the most liberal Southerners; one of my best friends while in Alabama, who was so far left he bordered on communist, owned a Confederate flag and proudly espoused his Southern identity.
     
    I think the key element the media has missed in this debate is the context in which the flag and other Confederate symbols are used. Is the flag a symbol of racism at a KKK rally? Undoubtedly, but the American flag arguably is as well in those instances - after all, they're exercising their genuinely American right to free speech while calling for a purely white America, not just a white South. Is it a symbol of racism at bubba's fish camp up by the lake when he has it flying while he's kicked back on the front porch with a six pack? No, it's a symbol of a redneck telling the world that he's a redneck, that he enjoys being a redneck and that he likes to do redneck things and have good redneck times in a redneck part of the country. Is it a symbol of racism in a museum, in a textbook or at a reenactment of a Civil War battle? No, it's a symbol of one of the defining periods of American history, in which our character, unity and integrity as a nation were defined for generations to come.
     
    Is it a symbol of racism on top of the General Lee? No, it's a symbol of the rebelliousness that's embodied by the main characters, Bo and Luke Duke, while they're speeding down the highway at a hundred miles an hour, causing problems for the local sheriff, foiling the plans of the local corrupt political boss, straightenin' the curves and flattenin' the hills. Seriously, was the show racist? Absolutely not. Did any one of the characters on the show espouse anything even remotely racist for one second of air time? No. They never even came close.
     
    Is it a symbol of racism at the statehouse in South Carolina, where Strom Thurmond served as Governor and made numerous stump speeches advocating hardline segregationist policies? Yes, and it has no place being flown on the grounds of a capitol that should be open to all, that once voted to suppress the rights of millions of black South Carolinians, and that only ever started flying the flag as a protest against civil rights during the 1960s. Is it a symbol of racism at the statehouse down in Alabama, where George Wallace famously made several openly racist speeches, where Jefferson Davis himself oversaw the affairs of the Confederacy while the capitol of the short-lived nation was located in Montgomery during the early days of the Civil War, and which hundreds of black protesters were repeatedly barred from approaching during the marches from Selma? To argue that it isn't, and that it shouldn't come down as a result, would be asinine. Is its brother, the first national flag of the Confederacy, a symbol of racism at the capitol in Austin, where it flies alongside the flags of the five other nations of which Texas has been a part during its history? No, it's a symbol of the reverence with which Texans view their history - good and bad parts alike - just like it is when it flies next to those same five flags outside the Texas Historical Commission, and just like the seal of the Confederacy is when placed next to the seals of the United States, Mexico, France and Spain as those five seals encircle the seal of the Republic of Texas on the floor of the rotunda inside the capitol building.
     
    Context, folks. Context. I think most Americans - black, white and whatever other color - understand that. I think the media analysts and fringe elements, who are just about the only ones pushing this issue, don't. Maybe that's why they're all so surprised when they see the results of opinion polls like the one below:
     

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    Leave the Duke boys alone. They were never meanin' no harm, and they didn't do anybody any either.
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    Hagar reacted to BS Wildcats in Congress Votes To Ban Confed Flag   
    Just a platform for the misinformed.
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    Hagar reacted to BS Wildcats in Congress Votes To Ban Confed Flag   
    And still being run by them, it seems!
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    Hagar got a reaction from Mr. Buddy Garrity in I Hope All 3 Runs...   
    Just saw on Hot Air that he said, "Trump made a huge mistake attacking Mexicans like that". 
    On a related subject, there will probably be a job opening at the CDC.  During an investigation of them on an email, one person said Obama was an amateur, Marxist, for allowing all these illegal immigrants in since many are carrying diseases.  That's paraphrased since my computer capabilities are limited (but not to bad for a guy who grew up writing on cave walls with charcoal). 
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    Hagar got a reaction from BS Wildcats in Congress Votes To Ban Confed Flag   
    It amazing LRF.  All because a sorry lowlife nutcase (in lieu of the cuss words he deserves) killed 9 good Christians, and had a confederate flag behind him in a picture.  If it was a poster of Dineyworld, would we condemn it & all who go there?
    if they want to start a movement to lynch Dylann Roof, I'd be all for it (and may God forgive me)!
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    Hagar reacted to BS Wildcats in Congress Votes To Ban Confed Flag   
    If you want to get right down to it, so did the original flag of the U.S. I'm glad our fore fathers had a vision for a better country, but we need to call it like it is.  Right?
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    Hagar got a reaction from BS Wildcats in A Real President...   
    You're correct and I wish I could remember exactly.  Think I might have seen it reported on Hot Air, but my rush to the porcelain goddess to regurgitate my supper followed by Alka-seltzers and 4 Rolaids left my old feeble brain in turmoil.
    My wife found me stumbling around with a blank look on my face, eyes glazed over mumbling, "What in the cornbread h-ll is going on".  
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    Hagar reacted to El Guapo in how long before they change the name?   
    ​Yup ! They are ruthless in "the dale" . Especially when you try changing their set
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    Hagar got a reaction from Mr. Buddy Garrity in Any of you nutjobs agree with this republican?   
    My bad.  I should have expanded my post.  What I was implying was that, IMO neither party shows any consistency in doing what is best for the American people. 
    And that is one of the reasons I have yet to be elected President (no one agrees with me lol)
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    Hagar reacted to Mr. Buddy Garrity in 22-5A Returners next year   
    ​i tried that for Bea……. Nevermind 
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    Hagar got a reaction from thetragichippy in No Gays Allowed?   
    Got to give it to this one gay young man. He was in front of what I guess was the Supreme Court, holding up a sign that said, "Let me marry my boyfriend or I'll marry your daughter". 
     
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    Hagar got a reaction from TxHoops in No Gays Allowed?   
    Got to give it to this one gay young man. He was in front of what I guess was the Supreme Court, holding up a sign that said, "Let me marry my boyfriend or I'll marry your daughter". 
     
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    Hagar reacted to 77 in Isn't Liberalism Wonderful?   
    Gotta love these open borders!
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    Hagar reacted to baddog in Bad Or Good Ones?   
    Can they possess guns in Denmark? If that was my girl, I would be waiting when they were released and exact my revenge. I could do two months to get even.
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    Hagar got a reaction from 77 in No Gays Allowed?   
    Let me preface this with saying I've never "studied" the Constitution, but it's my understanding that virtual all the Founders believed in God (confirmed by the large number of Masons).  The efforts in the Con. on this was to prevent a theocracy, and that effort is being used by the far left to take as much relegion out of our lives as possible.  
    What should concern a normal liberal (and scares the feces out of conservatives) is why is it so important so these ultra leftist to remove ALL reference to religion?
    What's on their agenda that makes this such a high priority?  
    Wish I had more answers than questions, but I doubt anyone would believe the answers if I knew them.  
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    Hagar reacted to TxHoops in No Gays Allowed?   
    It's not the 3 wives that are expensive to feed.  Just don't let them bring their 27 kids. 
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    Hagar reacted to PAMFAM10 in No Gays Allowed?   
    I always keep my beliefs and religion out of politics if you ask me do I agree with gay marriage I'll say no. Ask me do I think gays should have right to get married I say yes. Why the contradiction because in the US our founding fathers agreed we should all pursue happiness without suppression from any religion.  So basing any policy strictly off religion is unAmerican in my opinion. We wouldn't want other groups forcing us to live like them because of there beliefs. To be free means to be free. If everyone in the world was gay except you(any of us). That still have no effect on you and your relationship with whom ever you believe in.
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    Hagar got a reaction from PAMFAM10 in No Gays Allowed?   
    Since the SC doesn't care what I think (or what the Constitution says), I  can't see any reason multiple partners couldn't marry.  Having them for dinner is a problem.  Man w/3 wives, heck, four more mouths to feed.  If they're pleasant, I'd go to their house to eat.   I got principles but I can be bought. 
     
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    Hagar got a reaction from thetragichippy in No Gays Allowed?   
    Since the SC doesn't care what I think (or what the Constitution says), I  can't see any reason multiple partners couldn't marry.  Having them for dinner is a problem.  Man w/3 wives, heck, four more mouths to feed.  If they're pleasant, I'd go to their house to eat.   I got principles but I can be bought. 
     
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    Hagar got a reaction from Mr. Buddy Garrity in Gullible?   
    Lol, that was good 10 man.  I have to stay outta bars.  Three drinks and I'd be drunker that a one wheel bicycle. 
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    Hagar got a reaction from Mr. Buddy Garrity in I Hope All 3 Runs...   
    This is ridiculous, or funny, or ridiculously funny.  That's more people than in line to get Rudy's Pork-A-Bobs.  
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    Hagar reacted to Mr. Buddy Garrity in No Gays Allowed?   
    ​you think Al is a preacher?  For whom?  Lmao
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    Hagar reacted to mat in The conservative case for gay marriage   
    ​Don't underestimate or discredit the influence of the demonic principalities and powers in this world. Not everything has a biological explanation.
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    Hagar reacted to AggiesAreWe in The conservative case for gay marriage   
    ​The way every man was created/born by God's hands.
    Gay is a choice of life, just like any other sin. One chooses to sin.
    I will never agree with a person being born gay as well as one being born a bad person or "born to kill". It's all a choice.
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