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1 hour ago, TradenupBH said:

22-5a will be weaker then what it is now. You lose PAM, possibly Central and Ozen, Livingston. You keep PNG, Ned, Vidor, Baytown Lee, and probably add Dayton, Barbers Hill, and Cleveland. Crosby will most likely be 5a D1. Who knows though how the UIL will do things.

Oh boy Cleveland that 105 Drive is terrible  at night... but I agree with you on it being weaker. 

If Cleveland is in the district I wonder where the number will fall for Splendora? They are a border team kinda like lumberton on 5a div 2 or 4a div 1 right?

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If Matt Stepp projection is correct, Lumberton will be the smallest 5a D2 school in Texas.

His projection for 5a D2 is 1125-1759

Lumberton 1125

Splendora 1145

Cleveland 1446 (growing big time)

New 22-5a could be

Barbers Hill 1560

Nederland 1546

Dayton 1511

PNG 1493

Cleveland 1446

Vidor 1333

Splendora 1145

Lumberton 1125

Baytown Lee ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, TradenupBH said:

If Matt Stepp projection is correct, Lumberton will be the smallest 5a D2 school in Texas.

His projection for 5a D2 is 1125-1759

Lumberton 1125

Splendora 1145

Cleveland 1446 (growing big time)

New 22-5a could be

Barbers Hill 1560

Nederland 1546

Dayton 1511

PNG 1493

Cleveland 1446

Vidor 1333

Splendora 1145

Lumberton 1125

Baytown Lee ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well last week I was sure that Central and Ozen would merge.  This week, not so sure.  If they don't 

Baytown Lee 

Barbers Hill 1560

Nederland 1546

Dayton 1511

PN-G 1493

Vidor 1333

Central 1191

Lumberton 1125

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1 hour ago, Jag Insider said:

Well last week I was sure that Central and Ozen would merge.  This week, not so sure.  If they don't 

Baytown Lee 

Barbers Hill 1560

Nederland 1546

Dayton 1511

PN-G 1493

Vidor 1333

Central 1191

Lumberton 1125

It's going to difficult if Ozen and Central don't combine. The reason being is with Splendora and Cleveland. The UIL has mention that they are pushing for 8 to 9 team districts due to scheduling issues. The north Houston area schools are exploding, so there's not many 5a D2 schools to make a full district. Which means somebody is going to be in a jacked up district. Cleveland, Splendora, BH, Dayton, or Lee might be victims of the split.

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1 hour ago, TradenupBH said:

It's going to difficult if Ozen and Central don't combine. The reason being is with Splendora and Cleveland. The UIL has mention that they are pushing for 8 to 9 team districts due to scheduling issues. The north Houston area schools are exploding, so there's not many 5a D2 schools to make a full district. Which means somebody is going to be in a jacked up district. Cleveland, Splendora, BH, Dayton, or Lee might be victims of the split.

The new Montgomery school will be 5A D2 and Montgomery will be close to the cutoff. That may be where Splendora/Cleveland may shift towards. Not sure where the rest of the teams will come from though.

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7 hours ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

This numbers for Central are wrong...

A post from WOSGrad on another thread...

Just got off of the phone with Ronald Jackson, AD of BISD who gave me the following numbers:

West Brook - 2520

Central - 1309

Ozen - 1151

 

That would keep both schools 5A-D2 and remember 21-5A and 22-5A were both 9 team districts this past year..

 

Barbers Hill 1560

Nederland 1546

Dayton 1511

PN-G 1493

Baytown Lee 1414

Vidor 1333

Central 1309

Ozen 1151

Lumberton 1125

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20 minutes ago, Jag Insider said:

A post from WOSGrad on another thread...

Just got off of the phone with Ronald Jackson, AD of BISD who gave me the following numbers:

West Brook - 2520

Central - 1309

Ozen - 1151

 

That would keep both schools 5A-D2 and remember 21-5A and 22-5A were both 9 team districts this past year..

 

Barbers Hill 1560

Nederland 1546

Dayton 1511

PN-G 1493

Baytown Lee 1414

Vidor 1333

Central 1309

Ozen 1151

Lumberton 1125

But we won't know the cutoff for the classifications  until tomorrow, right?

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13 hours ago, TradenupBH said:

If Matt Stepp projection is correct, Lumberton will be the smallest 5a D2 school in Texas.

His projection for 5a D2 is 1125-1759

Lumberton 1125

Splendora 1145

Cleveland 1446 (growing big time)

New 22-5a could be

Barbers Hill 1560

Nederland 1546

Dayton 1511

PNG 1493

Cleveland 1446

Vidor 1333

Splendora 1145

Lumberton 1125

Baytown Lee ?

 

Class 5A Division I: 1,770 to 2,169

Class 5A Division II: 1,160 to 1,769

Class 4A Division I: 785 to 1,159

Class 4A Division II: 485 to 784

Class 3A Division I: 330 to 484

Class 3A Division II: 230 to 329

Class 2A Division I: 165 to 229

Class 2A Division II: 104.5 to 164

Class 1A Division I: 63 to 104.4

 

these are his numbers you posted the wrong numbers

13 hours ago, TradenupBH said:

 

 

 

 

 

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here are stepp numbers

 

Class 5A Division I: 1,770 to 2,169

Class 5A Division II: 1,160 to 1,769

Class 4A Division I: 785 to 1,159

Class 4A Division II: 485 to 784

Class 3A Division I: 330 to 484

Class 3A Division II: 230 to 329

Class 2A Division I: 165 to 229

Class 2A Division II: 104.5 to 164

Class 1A Division I: 63 to 104.4

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4 minutes ago, sportsfan2017 said:

here are stepp numbers

 

Class 5A Division I: 1,770 to 2,169

 

Class 5A Division II: 1,160 to 1,769

 

Class 4A Division I: 785 to 1,159

 

Class 4A Division II: 485 to 784

 

Class 3A Division I: 330 to 484

 

Class 3A Division II: 230 to 329

 

Class 2A Division I: 165 to 229

 

Class 2A Division II: 104.5 to 164

 

Class 1A Division I: 63 to 104.4

 

Lumberton and Ozen fans would love the drop to 4A D1.  I could see Lumberton making a good playoff run if that happened.

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2 hours ago, Jag Insider said:

Lumberton and Ozen fans would love the drop to 4A D1.  I could see Lumberton making a good playoff run if that happened.

No offense...but what exactly are you basing that on?  There's a lot of 4A D1 teams around here that Lumberton couldn't beat.  Haven't been able to recently anyway.  Aren't they normally in a battle with HF every year?  HF couldn't even make the playoffs in D2.

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11 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:

No offense...but what exactly are you basing that on?  There's a lot of 4A D1 teams around here that Lumberton couldn't beat.  Haven't been able to recently anyway.  Aren't they normally in a battle with HF every year?  HF couldn't even make the playoffs in D2.

Exactly 

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13 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:

No offense...but what exactly are you basing that on?  There's a lot of 4A D1 teams around here that Lumberton couldn't beat.  Haven't been able to recently anyway.  Aren't they normally in a battle with HF every year?  HF couldn't even make the playoffs in D2.

Lumberton had a young team this year, only loosing 7 or 8 starters all together. They should have a few 3 year starters and quite of few 2 year starters next year. With that and hard work they should do well in 4a-D1. 

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6 minutes ago, Raiders94 said:

Lumberton had a young team this year, only loosing 7 or 8 starters all together. They should have a few 3 year starters and quite of few 2 year starters next year. With that and hard work they should do well in 4a-D1. 

I'm not saying they wouldn't do better.  That's a given...smaller classification are "worse" and thus easier to compete in compared to classifications above them...that goes without saying.

I'm just saying that the idea of Lumberton making deep runs in the playoffs as a result of dropping in class simply isn't true.

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9 minutes ago, Raiders94 said:

Lumberton had a young team this year, only loosing 7 or 8 starters all together. They should have a few 3 year starters and quite of few 2 year starters next year. With that and hard work they should do well in 4a-D1. 

 

2 hours ago, Jag Insider said:

Lumberton and Ozen fans would love the drop to 4A D1.  I could see Lumberton making a good playoff run if that happened.

I would say Lumberton, Ozen and Livingston would all be more competitive in 4A-Division 1, but in no way would it guarantee a playoff spot for any of the 3. The one good thing is they would feel better about scheduling 4A-Division 2 or even 3A-Division 1 schools in Non-District. Might help the appearance of that overall record. 

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