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Week 4 AP State Rankings, all classes


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Class 6A
School Total Points Prv
1. Allen (22) (3-0) 247 1
2. Katy (1) (3-0) 213 2
3. Cedar Hill (3-0) 189 3
4. Euless Trinity (2) (3-0) 177 4
5. Cibolo Steele (3-0) 154 5
6. Westfield (3-0) 115 7
7. Converse Judson (3-0) 79 8
8. Lake Travis (3-0) 73 9
9. Dallas Skyline (2-1) 50 6
10. Austin Westlake (3-0) 29 NR
Others receiving votes: 11, Dickinson 12. 12, Manvel 11. 13, Pearland 8. 14, Odessa Permian 5. 15, Denton Guyer 4. 16, Southlake Carroll 3. 17, Abilene 2. 18, Arlington Martin 1. 18, Channelview 1. 18, Klein Collins 1. 18, South Grand Prairie 1.

Class 5A
School Total Points Prv
1. Cedar Park (24) (3-0) 239 1
2. Crosby (3-0) 207 2
3. George Ranch (3-0) 196 3
4. Austin Vandegrift (1) (3-0) 161 4
5. Aledo (2-1) 126 6
6. Temple (2-1) 107 8
7. Mansfield Timberview (2-1) 69 10
8. Kerrville Tivy (3-0) 61 NR
9. Longview (2-1) 51 7
10. Elkins (3-0) 29 NR
Others receiving votes: 11, Ennis 22. 11, Mansfield Lake Ridge 22. 13, Waxahachie 19. 14, Lancaster 12. 14, Cedar Park Vista Ridge 12. 16, Stratford 10. 18, Georgetown 9. 19, Mansfield Summit 7. 20, Georgetown East View 4. 21, Lufkin 1. 21, Canyon 1.

Class 4A
School Total Points Prv
1. Navasota (23) (3-0) 248 1
2. Gilmer (1) (3-0) 212 3
3. West Orange-Stark (1) (3-0) 184 4
4. Celina (3-0) 166 6
5. La Grange (3-0) 161 5
6. Kennedale (3-0) 122 7
7. Argyle (2-1) 88 2
8. Stephenville (2-1) 51 8
9. Sinton (3-0) 45 10
10. Sweetwater (3-0) 18 NR
Others receiving votes: 11, Brownwood 16. 12, Texarkana Liberty-Eylau 13. 13, Abilene Wylie 12. 14, China Spring 11. 15, Geronimo Navarro 8. 16, Henderson 7. 17, Pittsburg 4. 17, Carthage 4. 19, Graham 2. 20, Cuero 1. 20, Giddings 1. 20, Waco La Vega 1.

Class 3A
School Total Points Prv
1. Mineola (15) (3-0) 238 2
2. Brock (3) (3-0) 209 4
3. Franklin (3-0) 171 5
4. Cameron Yoe (7) (2-1) 165 1
5. East Chambers (3-0) 141 6
6. Waskom (3-0) 110 8
7. Wall (3-0) 83 9
8. Pottsboro (3-0) 76 10
9. Newton (1-1) 71 7
10. Shallowater (2-1) 54 3
Others receiving votes: 11, Rockdale 17. 12, Teague 8. 13, Eastland 7. 14, Malakoff 6. 15, Elysian Fields 5. 16, Blanco 4. 16, Odem 4. 18, Post 3. 19, Jarrell 2. 20, Spearman 1.

Class 2A
School Total Points Prv
1. Canadian (22) (3-0) 245 1
2. Bremond (2) (3-0) 215 2
3. Refugio (1) (3-0) 206 3
4. Mason (3-0) 166 4
5. Albany (3-0) 145 6
6. Shiner (3-0) 117 7
7. Mart (3-0) 82 8
8. Alto (3-0) 81 9
9. Seagraves (2-1) 46 5
10. Bruni (3-0) 40 10
Others receiving votes: 11, Stratford 9. 12, Iraan 8. 13, Crawford 5. 14, Iola 4. 15, Price Carlisle 3. 16, Crosbyton 2. 17, Junction 1.

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Hmmm....interesting. Kirbyville loses the first game of the year and falls from #6 to #11. Ok, understandable. But then win in week 2 and fall to #14. But wait....we win again in week 3...a blowout win at that....and fall completely out of sight. What in the name of all that is holy do these voters go by???

maybe other teams beat better opponents impressively

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You have connections to Crickets? They run that place. Last time I went there the game started Friday night and ended at 3 P.M. Saturday. It's also Stephenville's homecoming to add more fuel. Wylie may win the district but if these two are undefeated and one-loss it's going to be huge.

i might venture out there if im bored that week. 

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Yoe dropped to 4 after that loss. Did the pollsters even read about the game? And Brownwood still out of the top 10 behind Stephenville. If things go according to plan October 9th may be the most hyped game in the state all year.

The AP poll is just not very good.  China Spring is a strong 4A DI.  I would rather play very competitive games and fall just short against still competition than blowout cupcakes.  That CS team was the most complete squad we played in at least a few years IMO. 

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The AP poll is just not very good.  China Spring is a very good 4A DI.  I would rather play very competitive games and fall just shot than blowout cupcakes.  

So basically after Refugio when's the next real game? State quarters? The district was tough last year, but I do not think any team (maybe Rockdale for the Bell) can hold Yoe under 50.

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Put Rogers instead of Rockdale
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Region III is tough, so I don't think we can overlook anyone.  However, I feel East Chambers, Kirbyville, Teague, and Malakoff are looking pretty good.  Grandview may be a sleeper with the QB they have, but they have not played anyone.  Rockdale may be undefeated when we play them to open up district and is already in the top 10 of most 3A DI polls. 

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For 60 years the AP poll has ALWAYS been the usual suspects that get the votes.  WOS has consistently been there since the 86-88 run even when we didn't deserve it although I think we do this year. Strangely enough the usual suspects are the ones that end up winning more than 50% of the time.  I've run the numbers.  The Preseason AP poll has correctly placed more state semifinalist, finalists and champs in the top 10 than the end of season AP poll has and also does better compared to any other poll.  There's always someone who comes out of nowhere (Fairfield) though.  It's just a poll.

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You have connections to Crickets? They run that place. Last time I went there the game started Friday night and ended at 3 P.M. Saturday. It's also Stephenville's homecoming to add more fuel. Wylie may win the district but if these two are undefeated and one-loss it's going to be huge.

I have a good friend that live's out in Morgan Mill, he told me they are expanding Tarleton Stadium at the end of the season, seating should not be a problem next season

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For 60 years the AP poll has ALWAYS been the usual suspects that get the votes.  WOS has consistently been there since the 86-88 run even when we didn't deserve it although I think we do this year. Strangely enough the usual suspects are the ones that end up winning more than 50% of the time.  I've run the numbers.  The Preseason AP poll has correctly placed more state semifinalist, finalists and champs in the top 10 than the end of season AP poll has and also does better compared to any other poll.  There's always someone who comes out of nowhere (Fairfield) though.  It's just a poll.

In reality, when you start a season there are probably 10-12 teams that actually have a shot at winning the title. Voters put the teams they think that have the best shot at the top and work their way down. Different factors during the season cause variable outcomes for different teams but if all things are equal most of those top teams remain at the top.

Rarely do you have any surprise teams playing after Thanksgiving. Take a squad like Manor who was 4-7 last year for instance. They'll be considered a surprise team if they make the regional final this year, if you look at their rosters and schedules from the last few years you'll see they're not though.

I agree with you Goblin, polls are nothing but numbers with letters by them. The foresight they have is far from a coincidence though.   

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I have a vote in this poll and I can tell you I start with the week before Top 10 and first see who won and lost. That is the standard. If there is a loss I drop that team and then have a pool of other teams I go look how they did and once I have that group down to who won I start to narrow the list by who has beat who. 

I will even admit I am the voter who voted Bridge City at No. 10 after the Newton win. Why? Because they had defeated two state ranked teams in back to back weeks and not many teams can say they have EVER done that much less this year. 

It is not a science folks and in the end, it matters not. 

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To me, that is part of the problem with the AP poll.  If Newton goes and loses to Henderson....even it is relatively close....they are going to drop in the poll.  

To me, losing to Henderson by 7-14 points is more impressive than pounding someone that is not very good.  

But in the end, polls are polls.  At the end of the day, the teams playing in December are the ones to remember.    

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To me, that is part of the problem with the AP poll.  If Newton goes and loses to Henderson....even it is relatively close....they are going to drop in the poll.  

To me, losing to Henderson by 7-14 points is more impressive than pounding someone that is not very good.  

But in the end, polls are polls.  At the end of the day, the teams playing in December are the ones to remember.    

I'll go one better #2 loses to #1 in a close game like it should be if the pollsters are correct, guess who is no longer #2.

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