MackLewis

That’s pitiful..
 
IMO the person to blame is the superintendent.   He needs to go.   In order for him to go, the school board should be voted out.
 
The Sup, from everything I’ve ever been told, had his mind made up on Hickman and never considered anyone else.    There was never a job search.   It started with the PC crap about the “chain gang” moniker.   Then hire a head coach with no experience, and run off all the coaches loyal to CT and the “old” ways.
 
Erase all identity of what WOS was and change the culture. 

That’s pitiful..
 
IMO the person to blame is the superintendent.   He needs to go.   In order for him to go, the school board should be voted out.
 
The Sup, from everything I’ve ever been told, had his mind made up on Hickman and never considered anyone else.    There was never a job search.   It started with the PC crap about the “chain gang” moniker.   Then hire a head coach with no experience, and run off all the coaches loyal to CT and the “old” ways.
 
Erase all identity of what WOS was and change the culture. 

I agree with the first part of your post. You're exactly right it IS on the job training. The problem is that they had so little experience that the learning curve could be forever. I mean, we're still not doing the "101" type of things like containing the edge. Things coaching under an established leader with experience is gained in the short term, not "when they finally figure it out". I think it's sad this program is being destroyed by people with no leadership experience and our program being their "on the job training".
The second, I don't agree were not playing Belville because I don't think we beat any of the top three in our district (hope I'm wrong). Our greatest asset at this point is Turner but it looks like we're gonna run him til his tongue drags. He's not gonna make it to those games.
Funny, I watched the Texas Longhorns last night shut down the Alabama run game out of the 50 defense... jumping into the 4 man front on obvious passing downs... what a novel thought...🤔 CT was always about stopping the run and controlling the pass. I'm sorry, but you'll never convince me that our players, running a CT trained coach out of the 50, PNG might have scored once. They certainly wouldn't have been able to make a living at it.

I could see some Jasper redemption but Franklin will keep that winning streak.

Without Turner we don't even win 3...
J&J's are the only reason we got that close.

Take away Turner and WOS wins 3 games.    Such a poor offensive scheme, and poorly coached team.  Every extra point chart and coaching philosophy in the world tells you to kick the extra point up 3.    You NEVER go for 2 in that situation.    
 
They still have the jimmy’s and Joe’s though.   Sad for such a proud and great program to settle for that.

Just saw 14.2 leaving the stadium heading for Dayton
 

I will have to say P.A. will give WOS a run for fastest\ best group of DB's in SETX.   

I’ll take by PNG by 17+
 
I don’t believe in WOS ability to throw the ball and PNG will play downhill against the run.
PNG will bully them like last year.  

I’ll take by PNG by 17+
 
I don’t believe in WOS ability to throw the ball and PNG will play downhill against the run.
PNG will bully them like last year.  

I’m confused.  With all the kids walking then hallways, many just not interested in band for whatever reason.  Apparently we’re not interested in football either…

I totally agree with u!! But, when certain ppl only see things there way instead of having an open mind.its a reason that certain teams in our area are winning.silsbee,jasper,PAM,PNG,HF,NEWTON. And the rest of our area teams barely .500.coaching!! Me,personally really are proud of how hard our kids are trying.i truly believe if we had someone that knew how to run our system I have no doubt that these kids could play in dallas.

WOS will win a close game, like last year.
The years of WOS naming their score against area teams is over until they start playing better defense.
They have to have better scheme, and tackle better if they want to win and win big. 

This. WOS it appears has forgotten how to play defense. The old CT saying “if you give them an inch they’ll expect a first down.” Seems to have gone by the wayside 

You would be one of the ones in the community that sabotage the coaches before they ever get started. They hired to Coach Willis to "get the job done" and empowered him (as they should) to do his job. You did not want before you ever knew a thing about him because of his age saying that they should not hire a 60 year old coach (which you were wrong about). I expect you will be against anything he does without consulting with you first. 

So your argument is your son played D3 and another son walked on at UIW because their high school coaches didn't do enough to promote them? I swear, some of you guys clearly don't understand how special a talent has to be to sign a D1 scholarship for football. 

Orangefield. 
 
I'll put a sno-cone on it. Any takers? 😁

to be honest, PNG has or should have raised the bar for ALL golden triangle teams, even PAM. i say PAM even more so because even though PAM beat the breaks off them, PNG won the "race", "fight" or whatever analogy you want to use and was there at the big dance. while the rivalry isn't strong like MCM, it's beginning to rise. i know some PAM fans will point to PNG had an easier road. well from what i'm hearing and seeing, next realignment PAM might be D2 and i don't wanna hear no excuses. PNG proved my point many others stated in the past i was being sooooo negative. PNG brought in someone FROM OUTSIDE OF THE AREA with a winning formula, the kids bought into it and boom success. Keep going with the good ol boy system(TJ grads) and we gonna stay stagnant and fester. IF PNG GOES AT LEAST 5RDS DEEP, LOOK FOR A CRAP LOAD OF TRANSFERS FROM PAM TO BE AT THE REZ. I SAID IT HERE FIRST!!!

Well the 50 starts with the number 5, and the 3-4, well, you know…

Still waiting for someone to show me the big difference between a 50 and 3-4. Are you saying that a 3-4 does "not bring edge pressure" or "shoot gaps"?
 

I agree.   WOS’s defensive ends out of the 50 for all those years were great athletes that were nothing more than linebacker type kids.
WOS can run the 3-4 as well as the did the 50.   That’s what they were running half the year against those spread teams anyway.
The more crucial question is can they coach it, and out the kids in the right position?   Last year they did not.   Far from it.

LOL. WOS doesn't have athletes to run 3-4. They have athletes to run a "50", but not "3-4".
1. I wonder how many of the naysayers could watch a 50 or 3-4 on film and tell the difference?
2. What specific personnel is at WOS that enables them to run a "50" but not a "3-4"? 

A group of old Beaumont guys played flag football in the 80’s against my old man, and a bunch of Orange County guys.
Coach Louis was the QB, not long after he hung up his playing career.   Their team was called Sudden Death.   The man has a helluva arm.    Those two teams would split about half the games.
Coach Louis is a good man, and was a good coach, that never got enough credit, IMO.

A group of old Beaumont guys played flag football in the 80’s against my old man, and a bunch of Orange County guys.
Coach Louis was the QB, not long after he hung up his playing career.   Their team was called Sudden Death.   The man has a helluva arm.    Those two teams would split about half the games.
Coach Louis is a good man, and was a good coach, that never got enough credit, IMO.

Dexter Hebert from Kelly