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What's funny is when I tell people I just tested for PAPD, they can't believe I'd rather work there because it's "so much more dangerous out there in Port Arthur!" I try to tell them they're wrong, but they still don't believe me.

in the overall scheme of things, this isn't that big of a deal. players cheat every game in one way or another to gain an advantage. that being said, Brady and the Pats brought this on themselves by lying, denying, and refusing to cooperate. Things would've been totally different in this scenario: The colts go to the league and tell them that they think the balls are underinflated. The pats get caught with under inflated balls that very game. the media finds, out, and the $%^#storm erupts, just like it did. but when asked about it, Brady answers as follows: "Yeah, I like to have the balls a little softer, and I asked the ball guys to let a little air out. I didn't really have any idea what PSI they were supposed to have, and I thought these were still legal. Sorry guys, I wasn't intentionally trying to gain an unfair advantage. Most quarterbacks like their footballs to feel a certain way, and I've always liked mine softer. I apologize." 3 days later, $25K fine for Brady, maybe $50K for the Pats, and we never talk about it again.

the problem he has is that he completely and totally was involved in this. there's more than enough evidence to show it. I completely agree with you that it would not stand up in court, but neither would not cooperating with the investigation, which Brady and the Patriots refused to do. If he wants to take it to court, he can, but then you're going to get a lot of information come out that did not originally due to their lack of cooperation.

like I said earlier in the thread, go express it then! but don't criticize those who think it's stupid to intentionally anger terrorists just to prove a point.

No doubt Westboro is a cult, and it's members are cuckoo. which doesn't change the fact that they're following parts of the bible "to the letter" as well. I'm not sure what knowledge you think I'm lacking. I've had ten pages of this crap with you guys imparting all the wisdom i'll never need on the subject.

Murder #8 in Beaumont this year.

Since the extremists have shown a propensity to fly airplanes into buildings, it actually seems like a pretty dumb idea. But it's certainly her right to do so.

For a 36th time, I'm not comparing the two based on their crimes. I'm comparing the two based on their incorrect interpretations of their holy book. It's two different issues entirely. The point that you're making (which I've agreed with about 6 times), has absolutely nothing to do with the point I'm making. This guy misinterpreted the book and discriminated against someone. The other guy misinterpreted and killed somebody. Yes, one did something WAAAAAY worse than the other, but it's still a valid point to say that they both interpreted a book wrong. and to say so is not to say that their actions after their interpretation are equal. I'm not sure what your inability to make rational inferences from easily understandable passages of texts has to do with me having an inability to be honest with myself.

Reading comprehension... it's FUNdamental.

oughta be pretty soon.

Please tell me this is directed at me :) Also, please answer the question that I posed to you in my last post. it's a very straightforward question, and I know you have the answer because you know the truth.

Since you know the truth, help me sort this out: Here are a couple of truths I've learned from Muslim haters: A ) All muslims are either terrorists or terrorist sympathizers. B ) The Quran demands that Muslims attack Westerners. And here are a couple of facts I know from research: A ) the event in Garland was designed as a direct insult to terroristic muslims. B ) Approximately 500,000 muslims live in texas, with 100,000 or more within 50 or so miles of Garland. So since so many on here have taught me that all muslims are either terrorists or terrorist sympathizers, and since many on here have taught me that the Quran basically demands that Muslims kill us, and since you guys all know a whole, whole lot more than the Quran and muslims than I do, please answer this question that I asked earlier in the thread that everyone ignored: WHY DID NONE OF THE 500,000 terrorist Muslims in Texas feel the need or religious call to attack this event that was meant as a direct provocation to terrorist Muslims? Since you know the truth, surely you can answer that.

And yet the old testament is still part of the bible, and some groups of people still use the Old Testament as an excuse for various discriminations and bigotry. Heck, every time we talk about homosexuality Smitty busts out Leviticus.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. But I am suggesting that the attack was exactly what the host anticipated, and was the outcome she hoped for the most. A point I've already made a couple of times in this thread: If you want to wear a sign that says "DEATH TO ALL N*****" and go walk around Harlem at midnight, is anyone really surprised when you get shot? Someone is still responsible for shooting you, but it's more than reasonable for you to expect that that outcome would be the result of your actions.

Did you eat paint chips as a kid? I AM NOT SAYING THAT WESTBORO'S ACTS OF HATRED ARE IN ANYWAY COMPARABLE TO ACTS OF TERROR.  I repeat, the WBC DOES NOT KILL PEOPLE.  KILLING PEOPLE IS WORSE THAN BEING A GIANT BIGOT. The point, and only comparison I'm making between the WBC and terrorists is that BOTH GROUPS MISUSE RELIGIOUS TEXTS TO JUSTIFY THEIR ACTS, and THAT THEIR ACTS DO NOT REPRESENT THE VIEWS AND BELIEFS OF THE RELIGION AS A WHOLE.  I've stated this at least a half dozen times in this thread. Clearly YOU are the one who does not get it.  

I'm not comparing the severity of their acts, merely showing that Muslim terrorists using passages out of their holy book to justify their acts does not mean that their acts are justified through their religion, or supported by most Muslims. you guys like to get on here and say "It comes right out of the Quran!" well, WBC uses passages right out of the bible to justify their acts, but the vast majority of Christians have a problem with what they're doing. If someone with no knowledge of Christianity looked at what WBC was doing, they might say "They're quoting the Bible. Christianity must be horrible!" Would that be correct to lump all Christians in with the nutters at WBC? of course not.

the whole premise of the article is insane.

My use of "Muslim haters" is directed at those who blame all of the religion for the acts of a few.

Pathetic. Glad they fired her.

well, it's hard to lump this into his other incidents, as it appears he was a victim. Still, it's funny how this stuff happens to/at/around him.

LRF and 5GB, I don't know the Quran. I can only go on what I've read from Muslim scholars. That being said... There's an event held in Garland, Texas. This event is specifically designed as a slap in the face to Muslim extremists. Similar extremists, or terrorists, have recently killed several people at a newspaper overseas for doing the same thing that this event is sponsoring. There are nearly half a million muslims living in Texas. they follow the Quran. ZERO muslims from Texas performed terrorist acts towards this event that was attempting to elicit a terrorist act. Muslim haters claim that the terrorists are following the Quran, that their actions are religiously based, and that all or most Muslims share their beliefs. One would think that these Muslim haters would have a really good Quran-based explanation (since they're all experts on the Quran and its interpretations and meanings) as to why not a single one of the half a million terrorist-backing jihadist-loving Muslims living in the state this event was held in felt the need for a call to arms against this event. Perhaps these Muslim haters, who clearly have a vast knowledge of the Muslim holy book, can use the Quran to explain why in a nation with over 5 million of these terror-loving, American-hating Muslims, a grand total of TWO Muslims decided to attack this event (halfassedly, at that) that had been organized to essentially elicit a militant attack. Now all this being said, I do not aim to downplay the significance of the crimes of terrorists. They're a plague, unconscionable, and need to be eliminated. But that does not make it okay for people to be ignorant (or just plain stupid) about a group of people that they know nothing about, to the point where they blindly hate those people without cause.

I'm not comparing the acts on a basis of significance. I see a very clear difference in the severity of their actions. I'm making the comparison to show people like Colmesneil, who like to give all muslims credit for the terroristic acts of a microminority, that there are Christians who misuse the bible to their own personal ends, just like the terrorists misuse the Quran. Both groups are able to do so by taking scripture directly from their religious books. But that does not mean that the religions support their actions, or share their beliefs. Of course, some folks refuse to acknowledge this, because it's a lot more fun to hate all them dirty dog Muslims.

look forward to hearing the details.

the comparison being that anybody can use a religious text word for word to perform despicable acts. I'm not saying that the one is nearly as bad as the other, merely providing a very valid example of the Muslim hater's double standard that many will choose to allow to go over their head. And while I don't know just how many Christians support the KKK or WBC, I've been in SETX long enough to know that there are definitely plenty of good christians in this area (and I'm quite sure a few on this site) who are sympathetic to their causes.

So let's get this straight: a small faction of Christians is misusing the Bible to serve their own hate-driven agenda. they can quote book, chapter, and verse to back their actions as well. they're using religious text DIRECTLY OUT OF THE BIBLE, but in a way that goes against the beliefs of most Christians. a small faction of Muslims is misusing the Quran to serve their own hate-driven agenda. they can quote book, chapter, and verse to back their actions as well. they're using religious text DIRECTLY OUT OF THE QURAN, but in a way that goes against the beliefs of most Muslims. Not a real big difference, and it doesn't take a whole lot of intellect to see...