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If BH in this quote is Barbers Hill, then yes we have played them and done quite well against them.

Gunter

Is UIL still allowing opt ups? Like a few of coverage area schools are currently doing… Wasn’t sure if they will still be allowed to do that this go around or not…

A win is a win by 1 point still a win

I think this discussion has run its course , lets move on.

Back in 1778 during the range war between Gunter vs Gunner, Gunter lost the range war and it was renamed Gunner. The old timers still call it Gunter.

Gunter.

It is Gunner.

Week 4 1. Barbers Hill 2. Beaumont United 3. Galveston Ball 4. Lufkin 5. Port Arthur Memorial 6. Hamshire-Fannett 7. Shepherd 8. West Brook 9. West Orange-Stark 10. Kountze 11. Coldspring-Oakhurst 12. Bellville 13. Centerville 14. Fairfield 15. New Waverly 16. Palestine Westwood 17. Teague 18. Kirbyville 19. Woodville 20. Garrison 21. Trinity 22. San Augustine 23. Mt. Enterprise 24. Cushing 25. Union Hill

D1 players make D1 regardless of the high school position they play or the style of offense/defense. Could make an endless list of examples.

Silsbee by 7 .. 🐅🏈

Do I think those players make it as far with Vidor's current coaches? No. Dustin Long is not making it to a&m to play QB throwing the ball 3-5 times a game. Roschon Johnson is not making it to UT to play QB throwing the ball 3-5 times a game. Roschon would have been recruited as a RB. The O-lineman is not making it to UT only knowing how to run block.

Curious: You think any of this would have happened if the present Vidor coach was coaching them?

No. Vidor does not have a graduate playing in the NFL. Vidor has not had a QB make it to the NFL. Vidor does not have an O-Lineman playing D1 (Power 5) football.

First, you can blame the kids all you want. I stay away from that. Second, you don't think PNG staff would make a difference?

To be fair I can see why. They were a playoff time last season and went 8-4. They are 2-1 this season so far so I can see that also. But Thorndale wont have the athletes Gordon has which is weird to say. Gordon has 3 d1 players at the 6 man level.

I'm hoping that the boos get loud enough, and enough people speak up to the right people (SB & SI). Maybe then those people in decision-making roles will start taking the football program a bit more seriously.

Has PNG been similar to Vidor in terms of talent?

Ok cool. Thanks.

I've read on here multiple times and will repeat it again 89Falcon isn't from Huffman. Carry on.

Anyone here think if Vidor had PNG's coaching staff we'd be having this discussion? BTW -- Vidor had a golden opportunity to right the ship 2-3 years ago. But what did they do?! Well, you know! Would they/could they have got a championship coach? Maybe not. But does it mean you stop trying? Hanging on to a losing coach for 22 years doesn't instill confidence that Vidor is serious about their football program.

For the first time in 6 years, a West Brook team has my interest piqued. Maybe the Bruins will surprise the masses and, and squeak out a win.

Ok. I have heard of Gunter, but not Gunner. Must be a new school.