West Orange-Stark (21) Carthage (49) 4A DII State Championship---FINAL

[89Falcon]

Just now, Bansheefan said:

And when I say wos is average I mean they were not elite in defense offense or special teams I could see being weak at 1 or 2 but when u see a state contender you expect them to be at least really good at 1 thing and I just didn't see it  I think van Gilmer athens sunnyvale Pitt and Sanger could have beat wos

Understood. I think LaVega, Cuero, Silsbee, Sealy, or Sinton could all beat any of those teams you mentioned. 

[89Falcon]

1 minute ago, Bansheefan said:

Obviously you can as long as you come from the south carthage could have beat them 60+ to nothing if they wanted to Pitt played us more competitive then that and they were a 4th place team

Every week is different. 

[Bansheefan]

1 minute ago, 89Falcon said:

Understood. I think LaVega, Cuero, Silsbee, Sealy, or Sinton could all beat any of those teams you mentioned. 

And it's not just carthage look what the only team from this area kilgore did to teams from that area starters didn't give up a single point  and blew everyone out it's not that way for all classifications but 4a the south is just way behind the rest of state most years 

[89Falcon]

4 minutes ago, Bansheefan said:

And it's not just carthage look what the only team from this area kilgore did to teams from that area starters didn't give up a single point  and blew everyone out it's not that way for all classifications but 4a the south is just way behind the rest of state most years 

The SETX 4AD1 district contains 3 schools who "opt up" specifically to avoid the 4AD2 schools in SETX. 9-4AD2 is one of the tougher districts in the state. I suspect that WOS has a better historical pedigree than any school you have named other than Carthage (perhaps Gilmer).    

[Bansheefan]

21 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

The SETX 4AD1 district contains 3 schools who "opt up" specifically to avoid the 4AD2 schools in SETX. 9-4AD2 is one of the tougher districts in the state. I suspect that WOS has a better historical pedigree than any school you have named other than Carthage (perhaps Gilmer).    

Maybe historically yes last 5 years r so not so much i mean if wos just got lucky and made it to state i get it that happens sometimes but if they were the cream of the crop for region 3 and 4 then thats not a good look for those areas