Sabine Pass 2025 season in doubt??

[AggiesAreWe]

Getting word that Sabine Pass may not have enough players to field a team this season.

Anyone else heard this or have info on this situation?

I have reached out to my sources for confirmation.

[oldschool2]

32 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Getting word that Sabine Pass may not have enough players to field a team this season.

Anyone else heard this or have info on this situation?

I have reached out to my sources for confirmation.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

This is interesting.........

[AggiesAreWe]

Sabine Pass did cancel their week 1 game with Danbury.

[89Falcon]

Hate it for the kids but I am surprised they played last year 

[pine curtain]

3 hours ago, 89Falcon said:

Hate it for the kids but I am surprised they played last year 

With all the money they have and being part of PA you would think they could get enough kids who wanted to play football and get a better education to enroll.

[Austin1985]

33 minutes ago, pine curtain said:

With all the money they have and being part of PA you would think they could get enough kids who wanted to play football and get a better education to enroll.

They are their own school district 

[tvc184]

7 hours ago, Austin1985 said:

They are their own school district 

I believe that was what he was referring to, enrolling at SPISD and withdrawing from PAISD.

 There are four schools districts inside the boundaries of the Port Arthur city limits. 

I don’t know about now, but Sabine Pass used to run a couple of school buses up to the Intercoastal Canal Bridge in the mornings and afternoons to pick up PAISD student transfers in order to keep parents from driving all the way down there and back every day.

[Austin1985]

4 hours ago, tvc184 said:

I believe that was what he was referring to, enrolling at SPISD and withdrawing from PAISD.

 There are four schools districts inside the boundaries of the Port Arthur city limits. 

I don’t know about now, but Sabine Pass used to run a couple of school buses up to the Intercoastal Canal Bridge in the mornings and afternoons to pick up PAISD student transfers in order to keep parents from driving all the way down there and back every day.

Motivation in leaving PA for SP may be smaller student to teacher ratio vs athletic opportunity.  They don't make football players like they use to

[oldschool2]

5 hours ago, tvc184 said:

I believe that was what he was referring to, enrolling at SPISD and withdrawing from PAISD.

 There are four schools districts inside the boundaries of the Port Arthur city limits. 

I don’t know about now, but Sabine Pass used to run a couple of school buses up to the Intercoastal Canal Bridge in the mornings and afternoons to pick up PAISD student transfers in order to keep parents from driving all the way down there and back every day.

I've always said.. SP truly could have an athletics powerhouse if they took advantage of their proximity to PA to "offer a more quality education" to perhaps some PA kids that weren't quite up to speed for PAM athletics, but almost.  I'm not saying it wouldn't be a more quality education anyway, just that perhaps SP's academic transfer standards are more conducive to a student that would rather have an Academic UIL or One Act Play state championship... as opposed to a football, basketball, or track state champion.

And that's fine.  Great, even. But if that's the route the district wants to go, stop pretending to be able to field a football team, create a schedule, and then fold.  I honestly don't see why anyone still agrees to play SP in football.  It seems that every year is a coinflip as to whether the game will happen.  How's that productive?

Just fold football. Let it be for P.E. classes and/or soccer and move on.

[AggiesAreWe]

38 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:

I've always said.. SP truly could have an athletics powerhouse if they took advantage of their proximity to PA to "offer a more quality education" to perhaps some PA kids that weren't quite up to speed for PAM athletics, but almost.  I'm not saying it wouldn't be a more quality education anyway, just that perhaps SP's academic transfer standards are more conducive to a student that would rather have an Academic UIL or One Act Play state championship... as opposed to a football, basketball, or track state champion.

And that's fine.  Great, even. But if that's the route the district wants to go, stop pretending to be able to field a football team, create a schedule, and then fold.  I honestly don't see why anyone still agrees to play SP in football.  It seems that every year is a coinflip as to whether the game will happen.  How's that productive?

Just fold football. Let it be for P.E. classes and/or soccer and move on.

Maybe not fold football but at least drop to 6-Man. Burkeville and High Island did and they may not be successful on a yearly basis but they play out the schedule with no number issues.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

3 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Maybe not fold football but at least drop to 6-Man. Burkeville and High Island did and they may not be successful on a yearly basis but they play out the schedule with no number issues.

Hey what's the criteria for playing 6-Man? 

[AggiesAreWe]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Hey what's the criteria for playing 6-Man? 

Could be having an enrollment to enable one to play 6-Man. Pretty sure that would eliminate SP.

I wasn't really thinking enrollment so my comment about them playing 6-Man is probably out of their control.

[Austin1985]

2 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Could be having an enrollment to enable one to play 6-Man. Pretty sure that would eliminate SP.

I wasn't really thinking enrollment so my comment about them playing 6-Man is probably out of their control.

Find out AAW because to me, if they have 1A numbers they should be able to decide if it's 6 man or 11 man Foosball.  Always remember, at least half of that number we see are girls so unless girls come out, SP should be able to opt up or down

Edit:

All that yammering I just did is moot.  SP is at 136 and you have to be at 109 and below to play 6man.  That was dumb for me to think SP was a 1A school when they're 2A and have no choice but to play 11 man ball

[AggiesAreWe]

3 hours ago, Austin1985 said:

Find out AAW because to me, if they have 1A numbers they should be able to decide if it's 6 man or 11 man Foosball.  Always remember, at least half of that number we see are girls so unless girls come out, SP should be able to opt up or down

Edit:

All that yammering I just did is moot.  SP is at 136 and you have to be at 109 and below to play 6man.  That was dumb for me to think SP was a 1A school when they're 2A and have no choice but to play 11 man ball

Same here. I made that statement then realized that they can't play 6-Man because of their enrollment.

You can opt up, but not down.

Hull-Daisetta opted up this past realignment to stay playing 11-Man football. They could have played 6-Man due to having 101 enrollment.

They are 2A DII for football but 1A for all other sports.

If SP continues to struggle getting football numbers on a consistent basis, then the suggestion to just drop football all together may be the best option. Just be a basketball/baseball school like several schools in our area are with those type numbers.

[Matthew328]

Sabine Pass could play outlaw six-man....Fort Hancock does that out in West Texas....not a great option because no playoffs though 

[navydawg31]

5 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Same here. I made that statement then realized that they can't play 6-Man because of their enrollment.

You can opt up, but not down.

Hull-Daisetta opted up this past realignment to stay playing 11-Man football. They could have played 6-Man due to having 101 enrollment.

They are 2A DII for football but 1A for all other sports.

If SP continues to struggle getting football numbers on a consistent basis, then the suggestion to just drop football all together may be the best option. Just be a basketball/baseball school like several schools in our area are with those type numbers.

IMO SP needs to either not let as many kids transfer into the district to keep them below that 109 number to play 6 man or allow significant more kids be a big 2A / set up billboards through out mid to south Jefferson county to promote “recruit” to SP 

[RETIREDFAN1]

20 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Maybe not fold football but at least drop to 6-Man. Burkeville and High Island did and they may not be successful on a yearly basis but they play out the schedule with no number issues.

That 128 enrollment keeps them from 6-man.....

[Austin1985]

9 hours ago, navydawg31 said:

IMO SP needs to either not let as many kids transfer into the district to keep them below that 109 number to play 6 man or allow significant more kids be a big 2A / set up billboards through out mid to south Jefferson county to promote “recruit” to SP 

Yep.  Close that campus from open enrollment and live that 6-man life

[navydawg31]

12 minutes ago, Austin1985 said:

Yep.  Close that campus from open enrollment and live that 6-man life

Agreed! 

[outanup]

It would be interesting to see how few actually live in Sabine Pass vs how many come in through the open enrollment door. Sabine Pass is really an Industrial area, like downtown PA. It may have changed but, i don't think there's any place to get gas after dark? It's not setup to support the town folk. It's all about industry.

[HarryDoyle]

I figured with the new lng expansion they would have more kids coming in. Didn't they just turf all their fields as well? You would think the facilities along with the good education would be drawing a lot more students in.

[oldschool2]

29 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

I figured with the new lng expansion they would have more kids coming in. Didn't they just turf all their fields as well? You would think the facilities along with the good education would be drawing a lot more students in.

You put enough stipulations on who you'll accept then it doesn't matter how many kids are drawn.  If they're required to meet certain academic/behavior standards and live out of district, you can say no to every one of them.

[Austin1985]

Remember 2 things:

That 136 number, at least half are girls.  Maybe more parents are sending their girls to SP than parents with boys for all the concerns listed.

Also, that building is K-12.  So there's a finite amount of room to accomidate(sp) 13 grades.........

[watup]

High Island Varsity has cancelled their football season.  From a pretty good source.