Todd dodge is the new head coach at lucas lovejoy !!

[Separation Scientist]

5 hours ago, PhatMack19 said:

Todd Dodge picking a coach for Nederland and playing in the same class?  

I wondered that exact same thing...

He should recuse himself from advising potential opponents, IMO. 

[Separation Scientist]

1 hour ago, purpleeagle said:

Nederland does not have the athletes at this time. Nederland  will probably never win state again, regardless of what magic wand the new coach will be waving. The odds are against 5A2 schools who only have one 5A2 in their town winning state. PNG is an exception. UIL has been allowing these transfers to go on and larger cities with multiple school have the advantage. I wonder how many UIL people making these decisions live in a large city with multiple schools. There needs to be a law suit against UIL.  

Until there are fundamental changes at the administrative level the deck is stacked. PNG defied the odds.   

[pine curtain]

2 hours ago, outanup said:

TD has no interest in coming back to this area. His son  and grandkids are at SLC , and daughter close too. Realistically,  what proven HC is coming here? Ned will likely get a coordinator looking to move up, kinda like the Injuns. And hopefully as good. jmo

 

Who ever takes the NED job is in a lose lose situation.

[outanup]

20 minutes ago, pine curtain said:

Who ever takes the NED job is in a lose lose situation.

Why is that? Do tell....

[Matthew328]

2 hours ago, Separation Scientist said:

Until there are fundamental changes at the administrative level the deck is stacked. PNG defied the odds.   

The administrative/rule making arm of the UIL is the legislative council....which is made up of the schools themselves...if the schools want the transfer rules changed then they have the ability to do so themselves....

 

I know some people want to go back to an automatice one-year sit out if a kid transfers...problem there is that already got overturned in the courts...UIL used to have that rule in place...its one of the few court cases the UIL's ever lost

[Matthew328]

The problem w/UIL rules now and why things are a lot more murky IMO is when the state of TX basically opened the door for open enrollment...when they granted charter schools and forced the UIL to take them it basically gave the green light to ISDs to start admitting kids who didnt live in their attendance zones...

UIL cant mandate a kid who doesnt live in an open enrollment ISD be ineligible for 4 years...they'd lose that court case quick, fast and in a hurry...hence the 365 rule "establishing residency" 

[Rez Ipsa]

29 minutes ago, Matthew328 said:

The administrative/rule making arm of the UIL is the legislative council....which is made up of the schools themselves...if the schools want the transfer rules changed then they have the ability to do so themselves....

 

I know some people want to go back to an automatice one-year sit out if a kid transfers...problem there is that already got overturned in the courts...UIL used to have that rule in place...its one of the few court cases the UIL's ever lost

I understood Separation Scientist as referring to Nederland’s administration needing changes, not the statewide bodies. 

[Matthew328]

2 minutes ago, Rez Ipsa said:

I understood Separation Scientist as referring to Nederland’s administration needing changes, not the statewide bodies. 

Ahh ok I wasn't sure because the last part of purpleeagle's post was more regarding the UIL etc

[Separation Scientist]

Sorry about the confusion guys. I was addressing (not judging) the UIL administrations duties to assure a somewhat level playing field statewide. Its a huge challenge, I know. 

As for Ned, I don't have any inside knowledge to comment one way or another on their Administration. I wish them the best though.  

 

[Rez Ipsa]

1 hour ago, Matthew328 said:

Ahh ok I wasn't sure because the last part of purpleeagle's post was more regarding the UIL etc

Never mind - you had it right 

[navydawg31]

I do say this in regards of NISD school board it’s a voting year I believe 3 seats are up for grabs… get out, ask questions see where they stand and what they believe in the future for NISD if it falls in your beliefs then vote for that person! I know where I stand. 

[pine curtain]

3 hours ago, outanup said:

Why is that? Do tell....

NED is expecting PN-g results and it is not going to happen that way at NED.

[Rez Ipsa]

2 hours ago, pine curtain said:

NED is expecting PN-g results and it is not going to happen that way at NED.

Not saying it definitely will happen the same way for Nederland, but no one expected the PNG results for PNG. Anything can happen.

[NHSBulldogFan]

10 hours ago, thaferrett said:

Dodge is smart. Didn't take the Ned job.  

Todd didn't want the Nederland job

[NHSBulldogFan]

2 hours ago, pine curtain said:

NED is expecting PN-g results and it is not going to happen that way at NED.

I disagree with that we want to get back to being top 3 in district and winning a few playoff games...the weakness at Nederland is along the offensive and defensive lines we don't have as far to go at the skill positions 

[Guitar Man]

19 hours ago, PhatMack19 said:

Todd Dodge picking a coach for Nederland and playing in the same class?  

Todd Dodge is gonna recommend another sno-cones caliber hire for big Ned like he did at BC. Be careful with his advice. He could get you an absolute gem or a lump of coal. 

[mat]

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34 minutes ago, Guitar Man said:

Todd Dodge is gonna recommend another sno-cones caliber hire for big Ned like he did at BC. Be careful with his advice. He could get you an absolute gem or a lump of coal. 

BC used Dodge?

[PhatMack19]

 

I went to a Little Dribblers game yesterday.  This is the crap the kids are playing on.  Little Dribblers raised money to replace this junk with adjustable goals in all the middle school gyms that they use.  Nederland admin told them no.  Someone else is wanting to pay for better facilities for our kids and they get shot down?   Make that make sense to me.  
 

Also the same Admin that won’t allow coaches to have camps for the youth in the summer.  I believe English is the only one that offers anything and he has to do it off campus at a church.  This is who we have running the district and ultimately making this hire.  Forgive me for not have much faith in them.  
 

*edit posted on wrong thread 

[navydawg31]

38 minutes ago, Guitar Man said:

Todd Dodge is gonna recommend another sno-cones caliber hire for big Ned like he did at BC. Be careful with his advice. He could get you an absolute gem or a lump of coal. 

BC did not use Todd Dodge. 

[navydawg31]

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I went to a Little Dribblers game yesterday.  This is the crap the kids are playing on.  Little Dribblers raised money to replace this junk with adjustable goals in all the middle school gyms that they use.  Nederland admin told them no.  Someone else is wanting to pay for better facilities for our kids and they get shot down?   Make that make sense to me.  
 

Also the same Admin that won’t allow coaches to have camps for the youth in the summer.  I believe English is the only one that offers anything and he has to do it off campus at a church.  This is who we have running the district and ultimately making this hire.  Forgive me for not have much faith in them.  

Sad thing it’s been like for years… 

[mat]

The fact the Nederland is using Dodge to help find the next coach tells me they are serious about improvement.

[navydawg31]

12 minutes ago, mat said:

The fact the Nederland is using Dodge to help find the next coach tells me they are serious about improvement.

Not only Dodge but Kevin Barbay and Don Clayton as well… 

[PN-G bamatex]

16 hours ago, purpleeagle said:

Nederland does not have the athletes at this time. Nederland  will probably never win state again, regardless of what magic wand the new coach will be waving. The odds are against 5A2 schools who only have one 5A2 in their town winning state. PNG is an exception. UIL has been allowing these transfers to go on and larger cities with multiple school have the advantage. I wonder how many UIL people making these decisions live in a large city with multiple schools. There needs to be a law suit against UIL.  

I remember thinking PN-G didn’t have the athletes.

Then Jeff Joseph took those athletes to two consecutive state championships.

Coaching and culture are just as much a factor as raw talent.

[outanup]

1 hour ago, PN-G bamatex said:

I remember thinking PN-G didn’t have the athletes.

Then Jeff Joseph took those athletes to two consecutive state championships.

Coaching and culture are just as much a factor as raw talent.

See " Liberty Hill"......

[pine curtain]

8 hours ago, Rez Ipsa said:

Not saying it definitely will happen the same way for Nederland, but no one expected the PNG results for PNG. Anything can happen.

Correct no one expected these results but now the expectations are there.

NED will always compare themselves to PN-g