BMTSoulja1 Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 feels like last yr all over again ....now it's your Jr year as coach. You're not a 'new coach' anymore. Can't use that as a cop out any more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Soulja, I usually enjoy your assessments of games seem to be a level headed fella, but you have been throwing darts at a team that just beat your team on a football field. The primadonna statement was generalized, not personal. The out-coached or out-played argument is like the chicken and the egg. Talent can get you by if your coaching is suspect, while good coaching can prevail when talent isnt top notch. Any coach will tell you it is easier to coach talent. Fact is, no matter how good your coaching is, the players still have to execute.understand.....if your kid is D1 scouted, plays for a D1 school, scouted by the NFL, and makes it to his dream job, I will be the first to congratulate you and him. I just cant stand the average fan bragging about D1 talent in Beaumont. That is nothing more than geography and doesn't impress me. Anyone can move to Beaumont.My personal view of how Central might improve is to run the spread more. That QB gained some yardage running and his passing is erratic, even though he connected on a beautiful bomb for a TD.Winning football games comes down to execution and playing mistake free football (penalties and turnovers). JRidge and bigned85 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 ....now it's your Jr year as coach. You're not a 'new coach' anymore. Can't use that as a cop out any more...Personally in general I feel like if you have been a Coordinator before you already have a grasp of whats suppose to be going on out there, you're basically 2nd in command at that point. BMTSoulja1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brubaker Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) Soulja, I usually enjoy your assessments of games seem to be a level headed fella, but you have been throwing darts at a team that just beat your team on a football field. The primadonna statement was generalized, not personal. The out-coached or out-played argument is like the chicken and the egg. Talent can get you by if your coaching is suspect, while good coaching can prevail when talent isnt top notch. Any coach will tell you it is easier to coach talent. Fact is, no matter how good your coaching is, the players still have to execute.understand.....if your kid is D1 scouted, plays for a D1 school, scouted by the NFL, and makes it to his dream job, I will be the first to congratulate you and him. I just cant stand the average fan bragging about D1 talent in Beaumont. That is nothing more than geography and doesn't impress me. Anyone can move to Beaumont.My personal view of how Central might improve is to run the spread more. That QB gained some yardage running and his passing is erratic, even though he connected on a beautiful bomb for a TD.Winning football games comes down to execution and playing mistake free football (penalties and turnovers).actually, with one of the best rbs in the state, and a below average passer, they should be in the i/pro sets letting Whaley run with a lead blocker and letting that QB play action to those receivers. Their QB isn't a straight passing threat, and Whaley is a one cut runner who would benefit from A FB and TE Edited October 10, 2015 by Brubaker outanup, Mr. Buddy Garrity, Alpha Wolf and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtj007 Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Were you at the game? Central was up 13 - 7 with a TD they left on the field and looked poised to finish the job at halftime. second half, no adjustments were made (Nederland made their adjustments) and you see Nederland reeled off 28 second half points.... What else do you call it? Our coaches got lost with their 5 play playbook while Nederland seem to make every play like they were going against the practice squad on both sides of the ball, even got their playmakers to make plays.... Our playmakers were bogged down. it's the coach's job to get the players in positions to make plays. Sure, Nederland made adjustments at halftime....Most coaches do. What happened in the second half is Nederland's O-line wore down Central's D-line and imposed their will on them!! Nederland had two really bad offensive series to start the game, but then got going. Central did not dominate the first half. They had 117 yds to Nederland's 100, one offensive TD and a kickoff returned for a TD. Nederland's D-line was in the backfield ALL night last night. Whaley had 21 carries for 100 yds!!! 2.1 yd. per carry. If you looked at Nederland D-line before the game, they looked outmanned. But then the game started and they dominated. Take away the stupid penalties that kept many of Central's drives alive and it's even worse. The better football player is the one executes his assignment and has the tools do so. It's not always the one with the the height, weight or speed advantage. If you lined all of Central's and Nederland's players head to head, Central would have Nederland beat at almost every position in those categories I listed above. But Nederland had the better football players out on that field last night! baddog and Proud Dawg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outanup Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 actually, with one of the best rbs in the state, and a below average passer, they should be in the i/pro sets letting Whaley run with a lead blocker and letting that QB play action to those receivers. Their QB isn't a straight passing threat, and Whaley is a one cut runner who would benefit from A FB and TEWhaley is a downhill back. A fullback and tight end would not only make him more effective, it would take tons of pressure off a new QB. Ned's oline wore Central out in the 2nd half.... I believe the td pass central completed was off play action to Whaley. Imo , Whaley is way underutilized....Central has the athletes but lack in the coaching dept...... Alpha Wolf, NDOMAKONG and Mr. Buddy Garrity 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Whaley is a downhill back. A fullback and tight end would not only make him more effective, it would take tons of pressure off a new QB. Ned's oline wore Central out in the 2nd half.... I believe the td pass central completed was off play action to Whaley. Imo , Whaley is way underutilized....Central has the athletes but lack in the coaching dept......*puts on Titan cap and looks in the mirror* outanup, BMTSoulja1 and Alpha Wolf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 actually, with one of the best rbs in the state, and a below average passer, they should be in the i/pro sets letting Whaley run with a lead blocker and letting that QB play action to those receivers. Their QB isn't a straight passing threat, and Whaley is a one cut runner who would benefit from A FB and TE.... Preach.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Why did Central go for 2 when they went up 13-7? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Dawg Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 If I can't beat you, I'm gonna talk about you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Sure, Nederland made adjustments at halftime....Most coaches do. What happened in the second half is Nederland's O-line wore down Central's D-line and imposed their will on them!! Nederland had two really bad offensive series to start the game, but then got going. Central did not dominate the first half. They had 117 yds to Nederland's 100, one offensive TD and a kickoff returned for a TD. Nederland's D-line was in the backfield ALL night last night. Whaley had 21 carries for 100 yds!!! 2.1 yd. per carry. If you looked at Nederland D-line before the game, they looked outmanned. But then the game started and they dominated. Take away the stupid penalties that kept many of Central's drives alive and it's even worse. The better football player is the one executes his assignment and has the tools do so. It's not always the one with the the height, weight or speed advantage. If you lined all of Central's and Nederland's players head to head, Central would have Nederland beat at almost every position in those categories I listed above. But Nederland had the better football players out on that field last night! No. West Brook had better players than us with a huge o-line... We weathered the storm and lost by 3. West Brook's coaching is below average. Y'all have superior coaching with mediocre to below average players. And you win by 2 scores. See how that balanced out? Be lucky. You could be like other teams with puss poor coaching. And with the talent y'all have, y'all would get ran off the field every week. Central's talent keeps us above water. Sad to say, but.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Whaley is a downhill back. A fullback and tight end would not only make him more effective, it would take tons of pressure off a new QB. Ned's oline wore Central out in the 2nd half.... I believe the td pass central completed was off play action to Whaley. Imo , Whaley is way underutilized....Central has the athletes but lack in the coaching dept......PREACH, PREACH, PREACH.... Olddog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olddog Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 The only quit I saw in Jags was the coaching ! They abandoned the gameplan and hit the panic pass button , when there was plenty of time to have run the offense and see what happened ? Result 3 & outs and a battered D got no rest . #2 Dogs had long ago sold out to smash mouth , so why not load up and dare us to beat you in the air even though you know we have a deadly air game we really hadn't shown that and pass D may be the best part of Jag D . Just saying if it is not workin there is nothing to lose ? Personally the panic button is something I hate and yes I have even seen that in my Dogs before ! I guess all coaches like fans get "scared" and punch the button ! As far as talent your "edge" is not near as great as you think it is . Dogs have had some real special players over the last 5 years or so . Just for starters Kimler , Seay , the meats , Grogan and on and on and on etc . So coaching plus talent plus attitude always = success . Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olddog Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 I will say stupid penalties on the Dogs part made this much closer than it should have been . That is something we really need to clean up as the D improves . New life for your opponent Is deadly ! & stupid ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigned85 Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 I was going to write a long post but instead I'll just say this, Soulja, I told you earlier this week that NO defense in this district would dominate this Nederland O line. Now my son did say that Central was the best D they have faced this year in his opinion including Crosby. Props to the Central players. Hard fought game last night. Funny, I didn't see Mediocre any where on the field. I have been seeing an awful lot of it when reading your post though !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Dawg Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) No. West Brook had better players than us with a huge o-line... We weathered the storm and lost by 3. West Brook's coaching is below average. Y'all have superior coaching with mediocre to below average players. And you win by 2 scores. See how that balanced out? Be lucky. You could be like other teams with puss poor coaching. And with the talent y'all have, y'all would get ran off the field every week. Central's talent keeps us above water. Sad to say, but....mediocre to below average players. Just because we have a 5'4" 175 lb defensive lineman and a 5'5" 210 lb. our secondary was small, but we make up for it with our lack of speed and strength. For you to whine about me saying your kids quit, you sure threw some junk our way with that statement. So why don't you get ready to get beat by ozen and worry about that than to bash the team that beat y'all. I liked listening to your posts until now because you sound like a fan that can't handle the truth Edited October 11, 2015 by Proud Dawg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 mediocre to below average players. Just because we have a 5'4" 175 lb defensive lineman and a 5'5" 210 lb. our secondary was small, but we make up for it with our lack of speed and strength. For you to whine about your kids quitting, you sure threw some junk our way with that statement. So why don't you get ready to get beat by ozen and worry about that than to bash the team that beat y'all. I liked listening to your posts until now because you sound like a fan that can't handle the truth whew! I get bashed saying things like that to "certain other folks" on here lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 mediocre to below average players. Just because we have a 5'4" 175 lb defensive lineman and a 5'5" 210 lb. our secondary was small, but we make up for it with our lack of speed and strength. For you to whine about me saying your kids quit, you sure threw some junk our way with that statement. So why don't you get ready to get beat by ozen and worry about that than to bash the team that beat y'all. I liked listening to your posts until now because you sound like a fan that can't handle the truth I really would care less about how you feel about me. Obviously, you can't handle opinion. Your counterpart said we quit and you agree with me. tells me everything I need to know. We're going to beat Ozen. Don't worry about that, but you need to worry about not getting ran off the field by PN-G. BTW, I still say y'all have superior coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 The only quit I saw in Jags was the coaching ! They abandoned the gameplan and hit the panic pass button , when there was plenty of time to have run the offense and see what happened ? Result 3 & outs and a battered D got no rest . #2 Dogs had long ago sold out to smash mouth , so why not load up and dare us to beat you in the air even though you know we have a deadly air game we really hadn't shown that and pass D may be the best part of Jag D . Just saying if it is not workin there is nothing to lose ? Personally the panic button is something I hate and yes I have even seen that in my Dogs before ! I guess all coaches like fans get "scared" and punch the button ! As far as talent your "edge" is not near as great as you think it is . Dogs have had some real special players over the last 5 years or so . Just for starters Kimler , Seay , the meats , Grogan and on and on and on etc . So coaching plus talent plus attitude always = success . Good post. Olddog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 what us po'folks got to do with these shenanigans? Lol we just trying to keep a win streak going with no hype or flare man. BG, I would wait until yall get a two-game winning streak before appearing in public like this Proud Dawg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdog Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 No. West Brook had better players than us with a huge o-line... We weathered the storm and lost by 3. West Brook's coaching is below average. Y'all have superior coaching with mediocre to below average players. And you win by 2 scores. See how that balanced out? Be lucky. You could be like other teams with puss poor coaching. And with the talent y'all have, y'all would get ran off the field every week. Central's talent keeps us above water. Sad to say, but....Sour grapes. Ned's O line did the same thing to Central that they did to Ozen, wear out that D line and run the ball down their throat in the second half. bigned85 and Proud Dawg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 BG, I would wait until yall get a two-game winning streak before appearing in public like this this coming from the same guy who predicted a state title for a bball team who didnt even make the playoffs, Dove go home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Dawg Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 This year was better than last year. We are small and don't have the so called horses we always have. The area teams smell blood in the water. First visor said its their year. Next up ozen is gonna beat us. Then mighty central. I have read the predictions and do understand that this must be a hard loss for the jaguar faithful. Y'all were sure there would be a win for y'all. I have to admit that I am always nervous playing fast teams. I think that foreman is a good coach. Plus he is good for the kids. He has lost 3 district games the last couple years. I call that a success. For those wanting a change, I hope y'all get it. And for only the excuse making, finger pointing, whining, crybaby fans, I hope this loss stings for a while. Good luck with ozen. Alpha Wolf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Sour grapes. Ned's O line did the same thing to Central that they did to Ozen, wear out that D line and run the ball down their throat in the second half.Yea, that was the case when an unnecessary adjustment was made in the second half... As I've stated, be gratefully you have superior coaching to see what was going on. Heck, I know pop Warner teams that could've ran on a 3 down linemen front.. . Edited October 12, 2015 by BMTSoulja1 Proud Dawg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Dawg Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Still making excuses for the loss. Very funny to me to watch. Can't believe it is still goin on. Can't wait to hear the excuses from next weeks loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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