thetragichippy

Baddog...you jump in there WHENEVER you want! This is a public forum and IMO all are welcome. Your right, we can't talk about current events because there is "a few" that try to blame everything on the past. There is one I have no hope for (actually 2), but BlueDove I think, just trys to get us to see things through his eyes. I hardly ever agree, because he bases his thoughts through emotion, but he keeps me on my toes. BandKid is in high school(I hope, because if he's any younger.....) and I hope my son ends up with as much knowledge as he has. Also, don't be afraid to google.....you can get lots of information that way. Just make sure the information is factual and not an opinion.

tvc's, bandkid's, and hippy's posts covered most of this. I am only interested in if you are inferring that Cleopatra was black. If so, I wonder if they were slave owners? Took a long time and lots of people to build all those pyramids. Come on Man.......You know the history books were written to cover up all the bad things in the world........

Anyway, she's about as truthful as Cheney...... Well then that makes it ok, huh? When does one stand on one's own two feet and stop pointing fingers? She has gotten herself into the same place as Obama....between a rock and a hard place. Bush's poilicies are looking better all the time. Maybe now, the ''fickle finger of fate'' will be pointed in the right direction. Those policies in 'Not so Real America' still stink. I could care less what she knew and when she knew it. It wasn't Pelosi who said "we need to go to the dark side....." and it darn sure wasn't NP who gave the torture orders, okayed the memos---pre writing of them. All Dick 'The Penquin' Cheney---former Vice Chicken Hawk. Pelosi, as well as other Dems at the time, went along so they wouldn't seem 'soft' on terror in 'Real America' Like I said earlier, when GWB gave the orders for the CIA to go into Afganistan----teaming up with the 'Northern Alience'(which had the help of Iran btw), they did good running the Taliban(remember them? they took credit for 9/11)out of Afganistan. Then the NeoCons step in and Conned us all.... A car bomb ripped through a packed street in Pakistan's city of Peshawar TODAY and killed 11 people, including women and children, near an ice cream shop and Internet cafe Saturday, officials said. The blast exploded in the densely populated Kashkal area of Peshawar, the northwest city where people have sought shelter after escaping a Pakistani military offensive against Taliban militants in three districts further north. For those of you that think the war is over and that America is safe is living in a fantasy world. Bush has a lot to do why those car bombs are exploding in Peshawar and not in our own backyard! For some of you, it's going to take another 9/11 to make you understand that. Making excuses for Pelosi shows how far the left will go to protect it's own. You do realize she said she did not know, then she kinda knew. Do you really believe that????? Pathetic! Well you seem to be speaking for all the Chicken Hawks on this board. Get off the keyboard and do something about it. Go enlist and say you want to go to the Stands ASAP to protect 'Real America' To be honest, I sometimes wear a 7.25 inch size tin hat. Since Pakistan has no oil(that we know of), there won't be another hit here. No need for the Carlyle group and others to use the Shock Doctrine to set up shop in Pakistan..... ;D ;D Thats really your response?? I guess I messed you up when I post facts. thetragichippy, some people are just looking to blame someone else for the world's problems. It's sad that the man who protected us is taking the blame for doing his job. You would think that 9/11 never happened based on some of these post. We can talk on forums like this (unless the thread is deleted ;D ) because we are free. We are free because we FOUGHT for our freedom. Obama is going back to Bushes policy's for a reason........THEY WORKED. Think about it, Military tribunals, NOT releasing the pictures, tapping our reserve......and the list WILL go on! BTW PNGkid..........great post here lately.......

Careful PNG BAndKId.....you might drown them in facts....

OK MR. Realist...... Fifteen Countries There are currently fifteen African countries involved in war, or are experiencing post-war conflict and tension. In West Africa, the countries include Cote d'Ivoire, Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, and Togo. In East Africa, the countries include Eritrea, Ethiopia, Somalia, Sudan, Uganda. In Central Africa, the countries include Burundi, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Rwanda. In North Africa, the country is Algeria and in South Africa, the countries include Angola and Zimbabwe. The Base of the Wars At the base of these wars is the rich natural resources each of these poor countries hold of timber, oil or diamonds, compounded in many cases by the foreign extractive industries presence, their opaque, unreported payments to the governments and the governments' opaque, unreported use of the money to create and fund wars. The wars serve the purpose of creating a distraction, as the countries and their fleeing, displaced citizens are robbed of their countries' natural resources, easily converted to cash, for the personal use and fortunes of ruling parties. Tribal conflict is deliberately antagonized, so it can be blamed for the conflict. See Countries in Conflict News for up to the half hour country-specific news. Slave owners were your forefathers to Dick. The Europeans purchased them from Aficans. Black people sold other black people. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The slave trade in Africa existed for thousands of years. The first main route passed through the Sahara, tying in to the Arab slave trade. After the European Age of Exploration, African slaves became part of the Atlantic slave trade, from which comes the modern, Western conception of slavery as an institution of African-descended slaves and non-African slave owners. Despite its illegality, slavery continues in some parts of the world, including Africa. And it's still going on today........good thing you live in the FREE USA!

Anyway, she's about as truthful as Cheney...... Well then that makes it ok, huh? When does one stand on one's own two feet and stop pointing fingers? She has gotten herself into the same place as Obama....between a rock and a hard place. Bush's poilicies are looking better all the time. Maybe now, the ''fickle finger of fate'' will be pointed in the right direction. Those policies in 'Not so Real America' still stink. I could care less what she knew and when she knew it. It wasn't Pelosi who said "we need to go to the dark side....." and it darn sure wasn't NP who gave the torture orders, okayed the memos---pre writing of them. All Dick 'The Penquin' Cheney---former Vice Chicken Hawk. Pelosi, as well as other Dems at the time, went along so they wouldn't seem 'soft' on terror in 'Real America' Like I said earlier, when GWB gave the orders for the CIA to go into Afganistan----teaming up with the 'Northern Alience'(which had the help of Iran btw), they did good running the Taliban(remember them? they took credit for 9/11)out of Afganistan. Then the NeoCons step in and Conned us all.... A car bomb ripped through a packed street in Pakistan's city of Peshawar TODAY and killed 11 people, including women and children, near an ice cream shop and Internet cafe Saturday, officials said. The blast exploded in the densely populated Kashkal area of Peshawar, the northwest city where people have sought shelter after escaping a Pakistani military offensive against Taliban militants in three districts further north. For those of you that think the war is over and that America is safe is living in a fantasy world. Bush has a lot to do why those car bombs are exploding in Peshawar and not in our own backyard! For some of you, it's going to take another 9/11 to make you understand that. Making excuses for Pelosi shows how far the left will go to protect it's own. You do realize she said she did not know, then she kinda knew. Do you really believe that????? Pathetic! Well you seem to be speaking for all the Chicken Hawks on this board. Get off the keyboard and do something about it. Go enlist and say you want to go to the Stands ASAP to protect 'Real America' To be honest, I sometimes wear a 7.25 inch size tin hat. Since Pakistan has no oil(that we know of), there won't be another hit here. No need for the Carlyle group and others to use the Shock Doctrine to set up shop in Pakistan..... ;D ;D Thats really your response?? I guess I messed you up when I post facts. Posting about car bombs going off on the other side of the world quite frankly doesn't move me. Frankly, I wish Obama could leave the 'Stans but that's a discussion for another day. If those people want to continue to blow each other up so they can follow some archaic form of Islam is fine with me. The like it, I love it..... Dude, I'm done with you! Those car bombs killed children.............

Anyway, she's about as truthful as Cheney...... Well then that makes it ok, huh? When does one stand on one's own two feet and stop pointing fingers? She has gotten herself into the same place as Obama....between a rock and a hard place. Bush's poilicies are looking better all the time. Maybe now, the ''fickle finger of fate'' will be pointed in the right direction. Those policies in 'Not so Real America' still stink. I could care less what she knew and when she knew it. It wasn't Pelosi who said "we need to go to the dark side....." and it darn sure wasn't NP who gave the torture orders, okayed the memos---pre writing of them. All Dick 'The Penquin' Cheney---former Vice Chicken Hawk. Pelosi, as well as other Dems at the time, went along so they wouldn't seem 'soft' on terror in 'Real America' Like I said earlier, when GWB gave the orders for the CIA to go into Afganistan----teaming up with the 'Northern Alience'(which had the help of Iran btw), they did good running the Taliban(remember them? they took credit for 9/11)out of Afganistan. Then the NeoCons step in and Conned us all.... A car bomb ripped through a packed street in Pakistan's city of Peshawar TODAY and killed 11 people, including women and children, near an ice cream shop and Internet cafe Saturday, officials said. The blast exploded in the densely populated Kashkal area of Peshawar, the northwest city where people have sought shelter after escaping a Pakistani military offensive against Taliban militants in three districts further north. For those of you that think the war is over and that America is safe is living in a fantasy world. Bush has a lot to do why those car bombs are exploding in Peshawar and not in our own backyard! For some of you, it's going to take another 9/11 to make you understand that. Making excuses for Pelosi shows how far the left will go to protect it's own. You do realize she said she did not know, then she kinda knew. Do you really believe that????? Pathetic! Well you seem to be speaking for all the Chicken Hawks on this board. Get off the keyboard and do something about it. Go enlist and say you want to go to the Stands ASAP to protect 'Real America' To be honest, I sometimes wear a 7.25 inch size tin hat. Since Pakistan has no oil(that we know of), there won't be another hit here. No need for the Carlyle group and others to use the Shock Doctrine to set up shop in Pakistan..... ;D ;D Thats really your response?? I guess I messed you up when I post facts.

Anyway, she's about as truthful as Cheney...... Well then that makes it ok, huh? When does one stand on one's own two feet and stop pointing fingers? She has gotten herself into the same place as Obama....between a rock and a hard place. Bush's poilicies are looking better all the time. Maybe now, the ''fickle finger of fate'' will be pointed in the right direction. Those policies in 'Not so Real America' still stink. I could care less what she knew and when she knew it. It wasn't Pelosi who said "we need to go to the dark side....." and it darn sure wasn't NP who gave the torture orders, okayed the memos---pre writing of them. All Dick 'The Penquin' Cheney---former Vice Chicken Hawk. Pelosi, as well as other Dems at the time, went along so they wouldn't seem 'soft' on terror in 'Real America' Like I said earlier, when GWB gave the orders for the CIA to go into Afganistan----teaming up with the 'Northern Alience'(which had the help of Iran btw), they did good running the Taliban(remember them? they took credit for 9/11)out of Afganistan. Then the NeoCons step in and Conned us all.... A car bomb ripped through a packed street in Pakistan's city of Peshawar TODAY and killed 11 people, including women and children, near an ice cream shop and Internet cafe Saturday, officials said. The blast exploded in the densely populated Kashkal area of Peshawar, the northwest city where people have sought shelter after escaping a Pakistani military offensive against Taliban militants in three districts further north. For those of you that think the war is over and that America is safe is living in a fantasy world. Bush has a lot to do why those car bombs are exploding in Peshawar and not in our own backyard! For some of you, it's going to take another 9/11 to make you understand that. Making excuses for Pelosi shows how far the left will go to protect it's own. You do realize she said she did not know, then she kinda knew. Do you really believe that????? Pathetic!

Most already know my opinion. I have a lot more trust in the CIA than in Nancy. I think what this boils down to is this. 1. She was getting pressure from the Dem's to find any way to tarnish the republicans and Bush. 2. They figured bring out the torture and try to show the American people they broke the law. 3. Prosecute enough republicans and Obama gets another 4 years. The problem is, Democrats and Republicans both agreed with those techniques. If she would of said she knew and had changed her mind (like what might have happened), she would be ok, but so would the Republican party. INSTEAD, she lied and tried to pretend that she had no clue. She was called on it and her story has changed several times. Now shes stuck, she has to keep her story OR admit shes a liar. I'm pretty sure her credibility is gone and we will have a new speaker. This was a failed attempt by the Democratic party to secure Obama for another 4 years.

I think that you are okay as long as it is not game fish (Bass for example) or unless that law pending in the legislature passes about limiting bowfishing to one gar per day. I forgot what the outcome of that proposal was. I've fished pine island a few times, but never seen any gar.......of course was not looking for them either. You may want to research where the best place for that is. Pine Island might be it, just never seen any.

refute the fact that George W was a bully--------He stood up for what he believed. Kinda like you are doing except with class Refute the fact that the reason we invaded Iraq was NOT really because of 9/11....It was for the OIL! Known fact --------- No fact, it was not for oil. If it was, where is it at? Refute the way this country was obtained and built. STOLEN --- like most country's, it was fought over. No different from most other countries.

That was a well thought out remark......... typical That generally means, "I have no other comeback against the facts so I'll have to make some silly quip". Exactly. Notice how not one of them have refuted what you posted. Why argue with the brainwashed Bush followers?....Waste of time...Thats the SE Texas way.. Once again if you folks think that the economic situation that we are in is not a DIRECT result of your boy George W., then you are dumber than I thought you were. HOW can you go back to the Clinton years and attepmt to blame THEM? Our economy was BOOMING during those years! Bush was a BULLY....Just like your forefathers were BULLIES back in their day...Thieves, liars, and backstabbers! ALL OF THEM....Sad. Wanna refute that fact? Didn't think you would. Just thought they could just TAKE what they wanted...JUST LIKE GEORGE W. That's the most illiterate, ignorant, inaccurate and derogating post I have seen in a long time!

Nice Post TVC.........very well thought out and very, very true!

I might have got carried away ;D ;D ;D 1. Banned Partial Birth Abortion — by far the most significant roll-back of abortion on demand since Roe v. Wade. 2. Signed the Teacher Protection Act, which protects teachers from lawsuits related to student discipline. 3. Signed two income tax cuts, one of which was the largest dollar-value tax cut in world history. 4. Turned around an inherited economy that was in recession, and deeply shocked as a result of the 9/11 attacks. 5. Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people. 6. Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals. 7. Provided $20 million to states to help people with disabilities work from home. 8. Increased the annual contribution limit on Education IRA's from $500 to $2,000 per child. 9. Changed the tone in the White House, restoring HONOR and DIGNITY to the presidency. (no hanky panky) 10. Handled himself with enormous courage, dignity, grace, determination, and leadership in the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 hijackings and anthrax attacks. He almost single-handedly held this country together during those searing days....how soon we forget! 11. Disarmed Libya of its chemical, nuclear and biological WMD's without bribes or bloodshed. 12. Was one of the strongest, if not THE strongest friend Israel has ever hand in the U.S. presidency. 13. Prohibited putting U.S. troops under U.N. command. 14. Earmarked at least 20 percent of the Defense procurement budget for next-generation weaponry. 15. Increased defense research and development spending by at least $20 billion from fiscal 2002 to 2006. 16. Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit. Important if your in the plane!! 17. Led the most extensive reorganization the Federal bureaucracy in over 50 years: After 9/11, condensed 20+ overlapping agencies and their intelligence sectors into one agency, the Department of Homeland Security.

Anyone that would like to fish a friendly tournament on May 30th, please go to like below. We would like a few more boats. [Hidden Content]

Anyone that would like to fish a friendly tournament on May 30th, please go to like below. We would like a few more boats. [Hidden Content]

Anyone that would like to fish a friendly tournament on May 30th, please go to like below. We would like a few more boats. [Hidden Content]

have you read this thread? This thread has never been on topic. The first comment was "If you dont want comments, just delete the thread!! by our friend Dick Vital........... I guess I'll quit posting and responding to comments to avoid this thread being locked on my account.

UPDATE!! here is what we got so far: 1. tragichippy - TVC184 2. Raider 3 - partner 3. Cardinal Supporter - partner 4. VPbaseball#9 - partner 5. Bullets - (needs a partner with a boat) 6. Melece - partner thanks Melece.......we still need a person with a boat and no partner for bullets. Call your friends!! I have a couple people I am going to call. Lets see if we can get this thing going!!

Here goes Quannel X2 starting up the race issue again. You of all people should agree with the Grand Jury system. My point Einstein was if this was a black girl and two white guys, you would be crying race. Any person with half a brain could read your post and figure that out. But since the victim is white, you choose not to give an opinion. Very typical!

The problem is that would hold true going to a black school. I think a lot has to do with understanding. I think the majority of people confuse "not understanding" or "unaware" with racism. I think it's completely different. I have worked with a black women for about 12 years. When we first met, she thought I was racist because of things I said. One I recall was when she called me a racist, my initial reply was I was not because I had a close friend who was black. Her response was that very statement was racist. She explained why and it made sense. No one had every told me that. I still disagreed with her, but at least understood where she was coming from. Hmm? So hippy, you've been to a Black school and you know how it is? Never went to an all black school, but went to Thomas Jefferson, which was 50/50 mix of blacks and whites. I just reviewed my post and don't see where I ever said I went to an all black school......so I don't know how it is. If your quoting me saying, "The problem is that would hold true going to a black school. I think a lot has to do with understanding." What I was speaking to is Bucof2010 statement. He was speaking about how little whites know about blacks, and I was making a point blacks know as little about whites. Out of all my black and might as well throw in hispanic classmates I never knew them to be racist. At TJ, there were blacks that beat up kids for being white..........I would call that racist. You and Quannel X must hang out together in the pub. Both of you dream in your own world. There you go Dove, showing your true colors. I was totally wrong. Black men do no wrong. They are totally innocent no matter what the facts are. I was just making that up. : : : then you put in me in the same sentence with your soul mate Quannel X?? You are so entertaining..........you can't make up your mind who you support. Keep it coming, it entertains me!

Ok folks..........I tried to get a buddy of mine to enter this tourney so he could fish with bullets. He can't because of a Mobil Oil tournament. Looks like it would be a 4 boat tournament. So, do we want to fish a 4 boat tournament OR postpone and set another date?

Disagree, but understand

The problem is that would hold true going to a black school. I think a lot has to do with understanding. I think the majority of people confuse "not understanding" or "unaware" with racism. I think it's completely different. I have worked with a black women for about 12 years. When we first met, she thought I was racist because of things I said. One I recall was when she called me a racist, my initial reply was I was not because I had a close friend who was black. Her response was that very statement was racist. She explained why and it made sense. No one had every told me that. I still disagreed with her, but at least understood where she was coming from. Hmm? So hippy, you've been to a Black school and you know how it is? Never went to an all black school, but went to Thomas Jefferson, which was 50/50 mix of blacks and whites. I just reviewed my post and don't see where I ever said I went to an all black school......so I don't know how it is. If your quoting me saying, "The problem is that would hold true going to a black school. I think a lot has to do with understanding." What I was speaking to is Bucof2010 statement. He was speaking about how little whites know about blacks, and I was making a point blacks know as little about whites. Out of all my black and might as well throw in hispanic classmates I never knew them to be racist. At TJ, there were blacks that beat up kids for being white..........I would call that racist.