WOSdrummer99

And the fam went on holiday... to Canada? In February? They should've consulted Ted Cruz 

I'd like to pull the elite coach conversation back to this topic.
And to pick up on Sabine Pass vs Mart...
Mart winning % before the 1st elite coach was 54%. Sabine Pass current at 24% all time. Big difference. 
So if someone like recently retired Buchanan went to Sabine Pass. I suspect they could be winning DCs and making runs in the playoffs within the 7 year time frame. But I'm not convinced they ever be on the same level as an established program such as Mart.
Lets look at another local 2A d2. How bout Hull-Daisetta? 58% alltime win percentage. Won a championship in 79. Have NOT won 10 games in a season since. And as recently as 2019 finished 2-7. That's not much success at all, IMO. I've also considered the location. Think they could get some kids from surrounding areas like Liberty and West Hardin.
How much of a difference would championship coach make there?

Bold:  Yes, against who they are set to compete against.  School are set every two years against like-kind opponents.  But let me correct one thing.  Not any coach.  It takes a coach with special talent to go any where and win.  I've said in a previous post that I scrolled through pages and pages of the Texas Football History web site and and never see a school with a State Title.  Then you might see one and then nothing.  It's hard for me to believe that there is not 1 year that these schools ever had championship-type kids.  I also stated that there was a coach at a school for 42 years.  And no Titles.  Again -- no kids at least once there?!
Now we are starting to make a little sense.  Previously, I've been laughing too hard at the questions like:  Can Sabine Pass beat the KC Chiefs?  LOL!!  Anyway, first of all, we are talking about Sabine Pass and Mart in their present day condition.  This is the reason why you used these 2 examples.  But, before Mart won their first Title, what did it look like there?  How about at Aledo?  How about at Carthage?  May not be able to compare 100%.   But there was obviously something wrong because there were no Titles before Buchanan, Surratt and Lindloff arrived.  I haven't studied much of their past.  But, I have studied Stephenville when Art Briles was there.  Stephenville was pretty bad.  From 1909 to when Briles showed up, Stephenville never won more than 9 games.  And they did that only 3 times.  Brownwood was the big dog in their district.  Stephenville had not won a DC since 1952.  And they had not beaten Brownwood since 1963.  That's 25 years before Briles got there.  Briles shows up and institutes his program and in 6 years won his 1st Title.  Went on the win 3 more.  His 12 year record is 136-29.  And yes, they beat Brownwood.  Point being, up until Briles showed up, concerning beating Brownwood, and possibly other things, I'm sure people were saying the same thing there as being said about Sabine Pass.  You know, they can't do this and they can't do that.  But what happened to these different schools?  The right coach came along. 
So, now back to Surratt and Sabine pass.  My answer is absolutely he could.  7 years is a long time.  That's enough time to institute his program.  In 7 years Mart might not be the same and not have an Elite coach.  But here's another caveat:  What if they meet up and both teams have Elite coaches.  Then what?
Oh, and BTW, thanks for bringing up Mart.  5 coaches have won Titles there.  And all 5 first Titles were won within my 7 year time frame!

Let's just say the show has gotten under our skin.

Question:

Name the TV Series about (arguably) the strangest place on earth.  The fourth season will start sometime this summer.

PS; if you don’t watch it, you need to get on YouTube and catch-up.

Summer Creek  26
Pearland            39
 
Guess that's it for our area.

AUSTIN REAGAN/NORTHEAST  “Raiders”

YEAR                 W-L-T      PTS-OPP        COACH

1965                   5-4-0        174-  66         Travis Raven
1966                   6-3-1        200-104         Travis Raven
1967      C--       14-0-0        435-  95         Travis Raven
1968      C--       15-0-0        394-  51         Travis Raven
1969                   8-2-0        283-  51         Travis Raven
1970      C--       14-1-0        496-116         Travis Raven Wow, look what else I found.  Another Title within 7 years.  What is amazing is how far you can scroll down through those pages and not find a team that has a Title.   Every now and then you find one.   But, you can go to the teams with Elite coaches and you see Titles galore.  Amazing isn't it?!

No sir. Only 31% of the coaches that have won a title. My estimate is about 15,000 coaches have tried and failed to win one. There are approximately 1200 coaches currently active. And 17 of those have proven to be elite... 1.4%
S Surratt - Carthage
G Joseph - Katy
J Herring - Refugio 
J Kay - GP North Shore 
R Allen - Highland Park 
T Westerberg - Salado
C Koetting - Canadian
H Carter -  Lake Travis
J Kasowski - Bremond 
K Hoffman - Mart
R Rhoades - Cameron 
S Harrell - Ennis
D Boedeker - Shiner
J Gibson - Pleasant Grove
J Todd - South Oak Cliff
M Fannin - Franklin 
W Keeling - Tatum 

Scoreboardlive has it too

I trust the school's basketball account way more than MaxPreps 😂

Scales is putting on a clinic.

Sinton Tournament
Thursday
Sinton 7  Jasper 1
Friday
Jasper 2  Robstown 2
CC Flour Bluff 3  Jasper 1

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Well isn't that convenient

I think those are the softball score.
This is what I have from Thursday...
 
LCM        4
Hudson  3
 
Bridge City  9
Buna            0
 
Vidor  3
PNG   6
 
Vidor                        6
Hamshire-Fannett  7

East Chambers             3
Coldspring-Oakhurst  12
 
Newton     7
Merryville  1
 
FB Hightower  16
PA Memorial     1
 
Huntsville  2
Crosby       3
 
Coldspring-Oakhurst  4
Liberty                          2
 
Alief Hastings  0
Dayton              10
 
Lake Belton  2
Crosby           4
 
Cypress Ridge  11
West Brook         2
 
Newton           3
West Hardin  10
 
Galena Park  5
Dayton           6
 
Tarkington  3
WOS            1
 
Cinco Ranch  12
West Brook      0
 
Anderson-Shiro    13
Corrigan-Camden  5
 
Sinton   7
Jasper  1

My turn to help you out lol LCM lost those two games. Right scores just flip them lol

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Spurger     8
Burkeville  7
 
Sabine Pass  2
Colmesneil   12
 
Crosby                3
Kingwood Park  4
 
Orangefield  17
Vidor             16
 
LCM             15
West Brook  4
 
Hamshire-Fannett  10
Bridge City                0
 
West Hardin             8
West Orange-Stark  6

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I tried telling them ghost was gearing up for playoff success!!!

Eddie Owens.
Wheatley lost to Dallas Roosevelt in state semifinals in 1972. They won state championship in 1973.
That game with Roosevelt still is entrenched in my mind. That was the first time I had ever went to the state tourney (my first of now over 50 times). I was an 8 year old boy and what I remember of that game was not so much the actual game (even though it was an amazing game, Roosevelt won 111-109 in regulation) but it was the amount of people watching that game in old Gregory Gym. We were packed in there like sardines and they had closed the doors so the 100's of people left outside were climbing up on the roof to watch the game through the windows up top. It was an awesome site. That experience hooked me for life. My dad (who started going to state tourney in the late 50's and went every year until the early 2000's but had to stop due to health) and I made that an annual father/son trip from 1972 to 2006. 35 straight years together. Dad made 50 straight years. My current streak is at 51 and planning on making my 52nd straight state tourney this March.
Oh the memories.

Great job WOSdrummer99 on getting us all these scores. Appreciate it. 

It could be still an issue even if the new coach was hired in January.

Crockett won and will play Orangefield