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​REBgp, I need some 'free stuff." Please give me a $200 gift card. Thank you in advance!

I like good people, I don't care what color they are.  Before downsizing got me, we had a black contractor just put in our warehouse. He had got cut from another Co. Under dubious circumstances.  Was Nam vet. Helped get him hired.  Helped him & his family until he did.  Good man!  We use to talk about race relations.  I told him we all need to forget race, and the Good people, white & black, need to be against the Bad people, white & black.   He agreed. 
That was about 26 years ago.  He called me about 4 months ago to meet him.  He gave me a $100 gift card for all I'd done for him so long ago.  This old man had tears in his eyes.  

Like I told Hoop, never done this before​ and I want to enjoy it.  Perfect world, I'd like to make a point and get a chuckle.  Unfortunately, Pam's concern didn't leave room for humor, and I wanted to express sympathy plus convey to him what that flag & the sacrifice those boys made mean to me & a few old codgers left.
thxs to you guys for putting up with me thru the first. Not puter savy & only have Ip4.  Got to get a pad. Be retiring end of year PTL
 

From what I read of the History of the Civil War, the Confederate soldiers were to busy fighting and dying to commit the atrocities you're referring to.  I'm certainly not proud of what many slave owners did, or had done, but the average Confederate soldier was (and I know you've heard this before & will probably blow it off) a relatively poor (what would be described now as trash) man who answered the call for the South, or perhaps drafted into service.  He didnt own slaves, nor a pot to pee in or window to throw it out of.  Like the hundreds of thousands of boys sent to fight in Viet Nam - to stop the "domino effect" (commies will get VNam then Australia, then U.S.).  I was in the Army then.  Fortunately, had orders to go & they got cancelled.  Hell, we didn't know a commie from a Canadian.  If someone mentioned Stalin, we may have heard his name that's it.  Our country called and we got sent where  they wanted us to go.  And almost 60,000 died there, many boys I'd gone to school with.  And like the Civil War, most were the poorer young men, not the rich.
That's the same as happened to the Confederate soldier.  
One last thing Pam, I'm not sure but I'd guess slavery started in America just prior to 1700.  So slaves were subjected to unimaginable cruelties for a hundred & sixty years prior to the War.  That war lasted four years and as you know, hundreds of thousands died.  Very few slave owners, they had money.  So in that 165 years of slavery, that flag, that meant so much to so many men, innocent of the sins of slavery, was only around 4 years.  And those 250,000 men that died, many did in as terrible a way as any slave.  
I don't care about slave owners except to say I hope they rot in hell.  But for all those innocent young men who died, I care for them, just as you care for yours.  
Don't know what else I can tell ya.  We both have TO MUCH to morn, but I'm reaching to you hard as I can. I know your pain, I'm just trying in a sincere way, to explain mine.  
 
 
 
 
 

As I've said, some of the best folks in SETX.  You're never a stranger and they are as kind as they can be.  And REALLY support their kids which I admire and respect tremendously.  Whenever I meet someone from Evadale, I can just about guarantee they are going to be top shelf. 

From what I read of the History of the Civil War, the Confederate soldiers were to busy fighting and dying to commit the atrocities you're referring to.  I'm certainly not proud of what many slave owners did, or had done, but the average Confederate soldier was (and I know you've heard this before & will probably blow it off) a relatively poor (what would be described now as trash) man who answered the call for the South, or perhaps drafted into service.  He didnt own slaves, nor a pot to pee in or window to throw it out of.  Like the hundreds of thousands of boys sent to fight in Viet Nam - to stop the "domino effect" (commies will get VNam then Australia, then U.S.).  I was in the Army then.  Fortunately, had orders to go & they got cancelled.  Hell, we didn't know a commie from a Canadian.  If someone mentioned Stalin, we may have heard his name that's it.  Our country called and we got sent where  they wanted us to go.  And almost 60,000 died there, many boys I'd gone to school with.  And like the Civil War, most were the poorer young men, not the rich.
That's the same as happened to the Confederate soldier.  
One last thing Pam, I'm not sure but I'd guess slavery started in America just prior to 1700.  So slaves were subjected to unimaginable cruelties for a hundred & sixty years prior to the War.  That war lasted four years and as you know, hundreds of thousands died.  Very few slave owners, they had money.  So in that 165 years of slavery, that flag, that meant so much to so many men, innocent of the sins of slavery, was only around 4 years.  And those 250,000 men that died, many did in as terrible a way as any slave.  
I don't care about slave owners except to say I hope they rot in hell.  But for all those innocent young men who died, I care for them, just as you care for yours.  
Don't know what else I can tell ya.  We both have TO MUCH to morn, but I'm reaching to you hard as I can. I know your pain, I'm just trying in a sincere way, to explain mine.  
 
 
 
 
 

I've seen the video of the arrest.  He was refusing to comply with the Police's instructions.  Now I'm so big I have Goodyear on my side, but only 5'10".   He was several inches taller and I would look emaciated next to him, so yes they got rough.  And his family is getting $5.9M?  What in the cornbread h-ll is going on????  They need to arrest the stupid SOB's that authorized that.  

From what I read of the History of the Civil War, the Confederate soldiers were to busy fighting and dying to commit the atrocities you're referring to.  I'm certainly not proud of what many slave owners did, or had done, but the average Confederate soldier was (and I know you've heard this before & will probably blow it off) a relatively poor (what would be described now as trash) man who answered the call for the South, or perhaps drafted into service.  He didnt own slaves, nor a pot to pee in or window to throw it out of.  Like the hundreds of thousands of boys sent to fight in Viet Nam - to stop the "domino effect" (commies will get VNam then Australia, then U.S.).  I was in the Army then.  Fortunately, had orders to go & they got cancelled.  Hell, we didn't know a commie from a Canadian.  If someone mentioned Stalin, we may have heard his name that's it.  Our country called and we got sent where  they wanted us to go.  And almost 60,000 died there, many boys I'd gone to school with.  And like the Civil War, most were the poorer young men, not the rich.
That's the same as happened to the Confederate soldier.  
One last thing Pam, I'm not sure but I'd guess slavery started in America just prior to 1700.  So slaves were subjected to unimaginable cruelties for a hundred & sixty years prior to the War.  That war lasted four years and as you know, hundreds of thousands died.  Very few slave owners, they had money.  So in that 165 years of slavery, that flag, that meant so much to so many men, innocent of the sins of slavery, was only around 4 years.  And those 250,000 men that died, many did in as terrible a way as any slave.  
I don't care about slave owners except to say I hope they rot in hell.  But for all those innocent young men who died, I care for them, just as you care for yours.  
Don't know what else I can tell ya.  We both have TO MUCH to morn, but I'm reaching to you hard as I can. I know your pain, I'm just trying in a sincere way, to explain mine.  
 
 
 
 
 

I know you're right.  As I've said before, been here in Evadale about six years. With both GK's popular, been around a lot of kids and NEVER heard one use a racial slur.  And as most know, their mascot is Rebels.  But what most don't know, the colors are Blue & Gold (dam Yankee colors).  Friend of mine said they an identity crisis lol.  Also, the school emblem is a Crest, with the flag in it.  And I've never seen a rebel flag being waved at a ball game.  
As the kids & people in Evadale aren't racist, I hope the people & media in the area will allow this little community to retain their mascot.  
 

OJ was found not guilty of killing his ex wife yet he lost a civil suit and had to pay millions to his ex family.
Never liked how one can be found innocent in criminal court but can be liable in civil court.

I like good people, I don't care what color they are.  Before downsizing got me, we had a black contractor just put in our warehouse. He had got cut from another Co. Under dubious circumstances.  Was Nam vet. Helped get him hired.  Helped him & his family until he did.  Good man!  We use to talk about race relations.  I told him we all need to forget race, and the Good people, white & black, need to be against the Bad people, white & black.   He agreed. 
That was about 26 years ago.  He called me about 4 months ago to meet him.  He gave me a $100 gift card for all I'd done for him so long ago.  This old man had tears in his eyes.  

Growing up in Vidor (don't think less of me Hoop) when I was young @ 1955, I ask my dad if he ever thought about joining the Klan. He told me, "Hell no!  If I want to whip somebodies a$$, white or black, I want them to know who's doing it, not hiding under a sheet".  Here ends the lesson.    
I guess the Klan is alive & well, as are the Black Panthers, & no telling how many other racial/religious groups that I'm not aware of.  Again, Cest La Vie (such is life - for those of you who flunked French like I did).  

I tell you my generation with all it's problems racism will not be one of em. 

I truly believe we are getting there.  My kids and most of their friends (black and white) are truly color blind.  I don't know that racism will ever be truly eradicated, but with the next generation, I think we will be even closer. 

I like good people, I don't care what color they are.  Before downsizing got me, we had a black contractor just put in our warehouse. He had got cut from another Co. Under dubious circumstances.  Was Nam vet. Helped get him hired.  Helped him & his family until he did.  Good man!  We use to talk about race relations.  I told him we all need to forget race, and the Good people, white & black, need to be against the Bad people, white & black.   He agreed. 
That was about 26 years ago.  He called me about 4 months ago to meet him.  He gave me a $100 gift card for all I'd done for him so long ago.  This old man had tears in his eyes.  

I like good people, I don't care what color they are.  Before downsizing got me, we had a black contractor just put in our warehouse. He had got cut from another Co. Under dubious circumstances.  Was Nam vet. Helped get him hired.  Helped him & his family until he did.  Good man!  We use to talk about race relations.  I told him we all need to forget race, and the Good people, white & black, need to be against the Bad people, white & black.   He agreed. 
That was about 26 years ago.  He called me about 4 months ago to meet him.  He gave me a $100 gift card for all I'd done for him so long ago.  This old man had tears in his eyes.  

I like good people, I don't care what color they are.  Before downsizing got me, we had a black contractor just put in our warehouse. He had got cut from another Co. Under dubious circumstances.  Was Nam vet. Helped get him hired.  Helped him & his family until he did.  Good man!  We use to talk about race relations.  I told him we all need to forget race, and the Good people, white & black, need to be against the Bad people, white & black.   He agreed. 
That was about 26 years ago.  He called me about 4 months ago to meet him.  He gave me a $100 gift card for all I'd done for him so long ago.  This old man had tears in his eyes.  

Growing up in Vidor (don't think less of me Hoop) when I was young @ 1955, I ask my dad if he ever thought about joining the Klan. He told me, "Hell no!  If I want to whip somebodies a$$, white or black, I want them to know who's doing it, not hiding under a sheet".  Here ends the lesson.    
I guess the Klan is alive & well, as are the Black Panthers, & no telling how many other racial/religious groups that I'm not aware of.  Again, Cest La Vie (such is life - for those of you who flunked French like I did).  

Growing up in Vidor (don't think less of me Hoop) when I was young @ 1955, I ask my dad if he ever thought about joining the Klan. He told me, "Hell no!  If I want to whip somebodies a$$, white or black, I want them to know who's doing it, not hiding under a sheet".  Here ends the lesson.    
I guess the Klan is alive & well, as are the Black Panthers, & no telling how many other racial/religious groups that I'm not aware of.  Again, Cest La Vie (such is life - for those of you who flunked French like I did).  

If someone could arrange for the two of them to meet with the intention of cutting high card, winner take all, I'd almost bet a nice sum Trump would be there.  Don't know El Chapo as well, but I doubt he'd show.  

​BG loves the animals.

There are some serious contradictions inherent in this whole "sanctuary city" concept.
 
First off, isn't this a watered down form of nullification? Nullification was a somewhat popular theory in the nineteenth century that the states, being the sovereign entities that formed the union, retained the right to nullify federal laws and federal court rulings within their boundaries if the states viewed those laws as unconstitutional. Although the nullification theory actually began in the North, it became central to the slavery issue and a trademark defense for Southern states against anti-slavery laws leading up to the Civil War and against Civil Rights legislation during the 1950s and '60s. Every legal analyst with any sense thinks the theory is asinine, but we still hear it brought up in the occasional debate (normally somewhere on the internet) and liberals love to compare state actions taken against environmental regulations, labor laws and, now, gay marriage rulings in red states to nullification attempts way back in the day. But this, in a sense, is even worse than nullification - as insane as it may be when a conservative occasionally makes a nullification argument, at least they do so based on a belief, however ill-conceived, that the law in question is unconstitutional, whereas there's no constitutional basis whatsoever for a state or local government to declare an immigration law constitutional. Funny how, when the shoe's on the other foot, these kinds of comparisons don't get made and the people who make them most just tend to look the other way.
 
The second issue I take with this is a broader issue I take with the immigration debate generally. Look at that map and tell me where most of the sanctuary cities are. Newsflash: at least 70% of them are in states that are nowhere near the border. Of the four border states, the only one with a significant number of sanctuaries is California. Judging by eye, I count three states - Iowa, Washington and Oregon - that have created way more sanctuaries than the ultra-liberal Golden State. Two of the four border states only have one sanctuary at all, one of those being the nation's second most populous state. What does that tell us? It tells us that most of the people who are all for opening up the border don't actually have to live with the consequences. It's not like that many corn farmers in Iowa have actually come across an illegal immigrant in their lifetime, and the few who have met one probably didn't exactly meet a cartel member. It's not like Oregon experiences anything even remotely approaching the level of violence, human trafficking and drug smuggling that we see on a normal day in Houston due to our porous border security. I'm actually a centrist on immigration issues who's for limited forms of amnesty, but having attended a university in a state nowhere near the border that's filled with out-of-state students from up North who've never stepped foot in a border state, there's nothing that drives me up a wall faster than idiots trying to make a statement as though they know the full implications of policies surrounding the integrity of a border they've never even been within 500 miles of.

I knew you were a classy dude BG. You moved up a notch on the man scale lol

BG you've milked this for a while.  And to show how sick I am, I laugh every time.  
Laughing is good enough!

About changing his mind, one old timers sayings comes to mind:  A wise man changes his mind, a dam fool never does.