CardinalBacker

I think it's a lot closer to 50-50 than most people from schools with a lot of talent believe.  Quite often those athletes are a product of a preparation in a system that goes back 6 or more years.  When you start naming great athletes that came from your program, ask yourself "how successful would they have been if they'd played for a crappy program?"  
 
I use WOS as an example.  The Mustang faithful always go back to it being the athletes, not coaching that made them great.  All they need to do is hire one of CT's old assistants and there WILL be a return to glory, right?  How many WOS kids are in the NFL right now?  How many are playing D1 ball?  Being a part of that program helped to make good athletes have great high school careers.  
But it's a mixture... the best coaching in the world won't help a bunch of unathletic kids get to the State Championship.... but top notch coaching can help a bunch of good players have a GREAT season/career.  

The move i am talking about was over 40 yrs ago not the one several years ago which you are talking about. I got off the board in 2003. 

I thought we’d see a slight decline in year one (maybe drop a district game) noticeable decline in year two (maybe a loss or two in district) and by year three post CT you’d be fielding an entire group that had never really played under him. Year three was when I thought it would start to really fall off… but in my mind, year three wouldn’t be as bad as the last two years have been already. If WOS goes a different direction (and I don’t think that they do… no time soon, anyways), it’ll be starting from scratch. It doesn’t matter if you run the 50 if the guy coaching it up can’t match the guy y’all used to have. I think the problem is still that WOS fans are still not realizing what made them great. It was a combo.. pretty good athletes, developed in a pretty good system, with great community support and an absolutely top notch HC. I’ll be the first to confirm that CT in Bridge City would have yielded a fair share of DCs, but I don’t know if we get any rings. But I also think that WOS would have little to no hardware to show for the last 25 years if not for CT and his player development, either. 
 
Help me understand… if the a man is a HC/AD and has the full support of his super, why would he resign to go be a line coach elsewhere?
I’ll bet HH gets extended before he gets run off. The super is gonna let y’all know that football doesn’t run WOS anymore. He couldn’t have done it before, but the community empowered him with their protests.  

WOS folks going to lose their minds this week.

Republicans are given the majority in the House and proving they can’t handle it.  No wonder our government is so dysfunctional.  

What ya gonna do.. threaten them for not falling in lockstep? Yesterday, this was a positive trait. Today, they are apparently RINOs 🤦‍♂️ 

Cuero had a better gameplan and made adjustments.  Silsbee had the playmakers.  

Hmmm, think 🤔 it would be a good thing to just let the Stangs play their season out, let all this wait until after football season is over. Support the young men as they represent their school. 

Declaimer... just another opinion from another nobody
When the superintendent made the decison to have a so called coach in waiting because of the accusations made against CT. He was the only one on staff with the credentials to take over. Lucky for him or the superintendent would've brought in someone else that knew even less. He has shown his inability to take the recommendations to hire a coach that could continue the programs dominance. It's like the Bisd football thing. And almost like Jerry Jones thinking he can still be a GM. When he's gone... we'll get it back right again. 
I also have other conspiracy theories about alot of this too. But I'll wait for the book to come out. 

But to further clarify..  I'm not saying that WOS should have hired a white guy, or they can't win with a black coach.... that's untrue.  
I just think that a lot of good coaches of all colors decided to skip the circus down in WOS.  The public (through their racist actions) empowered the super/admin to make what seems to be a bad hire.  That's my point. 

Here's the thing... they had a hall of fame coach in CT.  There was petition passed around to have him replaced because he was a "racist."  Then he retired.  Many in the community had already expressed a desire that the next HC at WOS be black.  Because, of course, some people wrongly believe that it's not racist to say "yeah, we're gonna hire a black dude this time."  By the time that the applicant list was released, there were only 13 applicants for the position of Head Coach of the winningest football program in Texas.  13.  
Do you want to guess how many people applied for the last opening for a perennial loser like BC? 
But don't take my word for it.

This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up How many of those 13 applicants weren't black?  Three or four by my math... and the reason is that EVERYBODY knew that the folks making the decisions in West Orange were going hire a black dude, no matter what... especially in light of the petition that they passed around to get rid of the best thing that ever happened to West Orange Football.
So you really shouldn't be too surprised when the people who follow the sport are delighting in the fact that the community/admin's racist ploy to hire "a coach that looks like us" has blown up in their faces.  
My opinion?  WOS should have hired the best guy for the job (regardless of his/her skin color), but it was gonna be hard to find another Hall of Fame coach... and previously playing for one or even working as an assistant under one won't do the trick, as evidenced by the win/loss records of guys like Toby.  
But you only have yourselves to blame for the mess you find yourselves in now.  Who knows?  Maybe if you hadn't been so overt in your branding CT a racist and then publicizing the fact that y'all didn't care if a coach was any good, just so long as he was black, you'd have gotten some decent candidates.  The public and the admin decided that some things were more important than winning, and they got what they asked for.  
 

Here's the thing... they had a hall of fame coach in CT.  There was petition passed around to have him replaced because he was a "racist."  Then he retired.  Many in the community had already expressed a desire that the next HC at WOS be black.  Because, of course, some people wrongly believe that it's not racist to say "yeah, we're gonna hire a black dude this time."  By the time that the applicant list was released, there were only 13 applicants for the position of Head Coach of the winningest football program in Texas.  13.  
Do you want to guess how many people applied for the last opening for a perennial loser like BC? 
But don't take my word for it.

This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up How many of those 13 applicants weren't black?  Three or four by my math... and the reason is that EVERYBODY knew that the folks making the decisions in West Orange were going hire a black dude, no matter what... especially in light of the petition that they passed around to get rid of the best thing that ever happened to West Orange Football.
So you really shouldn't be too surprised when the people who follow the sport are delighting in the fact that the community/admin's racist ploy to hire "a coach that looks like us" has blown up in their faces.  
My opinion?  WOS should have hired the best guy for the job (regardless of his/her skin color), but it was gonna be hard to find another Hall of Fame coach... and previously playing for one or even working as an assistant under one won't do the trick, as evidenced by the win/loss records of guys like Toby.  
But you only have yourselves to blame for the mess you find yourselves in now.  Who knows?  Maybe if you hadn't been so overt in your branding CT a racist and then publicizing the fact that y'all didn't care if a coach was any good, just so long as he was black, you'd have gotten some decent candidates.  The public and the admin decided that some things were more important than winning, and they got what they asked for.  
 

But to further clarify..  I'm not saying that WOS should have hired a white guy, or they can't win with a black coach.... that's untrue.  
I just think that a lot of good coaches of all colors decided to skip the circus down in WOS.  The public (through their racist actions) empowered the super/admin to make what seems to be a bad hire.  That's my point. 

Here's the thing... they had a hall of fame coach in CT.  There was petition passed around to have him replaced because he was a "racist."  Then he retired.  Many in the community had already expressed a desire that the next HC at WOS be black.  Because, of course, some people wrongly believe that it's not racist to say "yeah, we're gonna hire a black dude this time."  By the time that the applicant list was released, there were only 13 applicants for the position of Head Coach of the winningest football program in Texas.  13.  
Do you want to guess how many people applied for the last opening for a perennial loser like BC? 
But don't take my word for it.

This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up How many of those 13 applicants weren't black?  Three or four by my math... and the reason is that EVERYBODY knew that the folks making the decisions in West Orange were going hire a black dude, no matter what... especially in light of the petition that they passed around to get rid of the best thing that ever happened to West Orange Football.
So you really shouldn't be too surprised when the people who follow the sport are delighting in the fact that the community/admin's racist ploy to hire "a coach that looks like us" has blown up in their faces.  
My opinion?  WOS should have hired the best guy for the job (regardless of his/her skin color), but it was gonna be hard to find another Hall of Fame coach... and previously playing for one or even working as an assistant under one won't do the trick, as evidenced by the win/loss records of guys like Toby.  
But you only have yourselves to blame for the mess you find yourselves in now.  Who knows?  Maybe if you hadn't been so overt in your branding CT a racist and then publicizing the fact that y'all didn't care if a coach was any good, just so long as he was black, you'd have gotten some decent candidates.  The public and the admin decided that some things were more important than winning, and they got what they asked for.  
 

Here's the thing... they had a hall of fame coach in CT.  There was petition passed around to have him replaced because he was a "racist."  Then he retired.  Many in the community had already expressed a desire that the next HC at WOS be black.  Because, of course, some people wrongly believe that it's not racist to say "yeah, we're gonna hire a black dude this time."  By the time that the applicant list was released, there were only 13 applicants for the position of Head Coach of the winningest football program in Texas.  13.  
Do you want to guess how many people applied for the last opening for a perennial loser like BC? 
But don't take my word for it.

This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up How many of those 13 applicants weren't black?  Three or four by my math... and the reason is that EVERYBODY knew that the folks making the decisions in West Orange were going hire a black dude, no matter what... especially in light of the petition that they passed around to get rid of the best thing that ever happened to West Orange Football.
So you really shouldn't be too surprised when the people who follow the sport are delighting in the fact that the community/admin's racist ploy to hire "a coach that looks like us" has blown up in their faces.  
My opinion?  WOS should have hired the best guy for the job (regardless of his/her skin color), but it was gonna be hard to find another Hall of Fame coach... and previously playing for one or even working as an assistant under one won't do the trick, as evidenced by the win/loss records of guys like Toby.  
But you only have yourselves to blame for the mess you find yourselves in now.  Who knows?  Maybe if you hadn't been so overt in your branding CT a racist and then publicizing the fact that y'all didn't care if a coach was any good, just so long as he was black, you'd have gotten some decent candidates.  The public and the admin decided that some things were more important than winning, and they got what they asked for.  
 

Here's the thing... they had a hall of fame coach in CT.  There was petition passed around to have him replaced because he was a "racist."  Then he retired.  Many in the community had already expressed a desire that the next HC at WOS be black.  Because, of course, some people wrongly believe that it's not racist to say "yeah, we're gonna hire a black dude this time."  By the time that the applicant list was released, there were only 13 applicants for the position of Head Coach of the winningest football program in Texas.  13.  
Do you want to guess how many people applied for the last opening for a perennial loser like BC? 
But don't take my word for it.

This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up How many of those 13 applicants weren't black?  Three or four by my math... and the reason is that EVERYBODY knew that the folks making the decisions in West Orange were going hire a black dude, no matter what... especially in light of the petition that they passed around to get rid of the best thing that ever happened to West Orange Football.
So you really shouldn't be too surprised when the people who follow the sport are delighting in the fact that the community/admin's racist ploy to hire "a coach that looks like us" has blown up in their faces.  
My opinion?  WOS should have hired the best guy for the job (regardless of his/her skin color), but it was gonna be hard to find another Hall of Fame coach... and previously playing for one or even working as an assistant under one won't do the trick, as evidenced by the win/loss records of guys like Toby.  
But you only have yourselves to blame for the mess you find yourselves in now.  Who knows?  Maybe if you hadn't been so overt in your branding CT a racist and then publicizing the fact that y'all didn't care if a coach was any good, just so long as he was black, you'd have gotten some decent candidates.  The public and the admin decided that some things were more important than winning, and they got what they asked for.  
 

Nah, this is a west orange team that plays to the level of its competition.  Jasper isn’t close to Silsbee talent-wise, and that was a close one.  My guess is Jasper in a close one but if they blow WOS out, the mustangs have officially quit.  

Senior night and i think it's pink out too. This is going to depend on which team we get on the field Friday night. Is it the one that scores 50 vs Newton. Or the one that can't buy a point in the first half vs BC. Is it the defensive wonder that held both HF's and Silsbee's high power offenses to their lowest point totals of the season?
The ups and downs, highs and lows, are so drastic now that there's no expectations anything will flow from one week to the next. They can't find any solid ground to build on each week. At this point we are exactly in the same position as last season. No progress. Still lost to all the same opponents even though we were home for a few of them. Even though we went to OT with some too. There is no more home field advantage. So now when Jasper steps off the bus Friday we've got our hands full. Hope we get another instant classic that comes down to the final minutes.

Here's the thing... they had a hall of fame coach in CT.  There was petition passed around to have him replaced because he was a "racist."  Then he retired.  Many in the community had already expressed a desire that the next HC at WOS be black.  Because, of course, some people wrongly believe that it's not racist to say "yeah, we're gonna hire a black dude this time."  By the time that the applicant list was released, there were only 13 applicants for the position of Head Coach of the winningest football program in Texas.  13.  
Do you want to guess how many people applied for the last opening for a perennial loser like BC? 
But don't take my word for it.

This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up How many of those 13 applicants weren't black?  Three or four by my math... and the reason is that EVERYBODY knew that the folks making the decisions in West Orange were going hire a black dude, no matter what... especially in light of the petition that they passed around to get rid of the best thing that ever happened to West Orange Football.
So you really shouldn't be too surprised when the people who follow the sport are delighting in the fact that the community/admin's racist ploy to hire "a coach that looks like us" has blown up in their faces.  
My opinion?  WOS should have hired the best guy for the job (regardless of his/her skin color), but it was gonna be hard to find another Hall of Fame coach... and previously playing for one or even working as an assistant under one won't do the trick, as evidenced by the win/loss records of guys like Toby.  
But you only have yourselves to blame for the mess you find yourselves in now.  Who knows?  Maybe if you hadn't been so overt in your branding CT a racist and then publicizing the fact that y'all didn't care if a coach was any good, just so long as he was black, you'd have gotten some decent candidates.  The public and the admin decided that some things were more important than winning, and they got what they asked for.  
 

Ladybug: “they just hired the wrong black guy.”

Truer words have never been spoken. 

And I WILL be dry humping that mascot if we pull this off. 

And I WILL be dry humping that mascot if we pull this off. 

And I WILL be dry humping that mascot if we pull this off. 

Still a lot of football left