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Someone threw a suggestion out earlier to be met with, "Surely you're joking?". I don't know.. seems a little like scoffing. Perhaps I misread the situation. Either way, with the amount of money that Lumberton will likely pay for a football staff.. I'd be open to all options. It helped you guys immensely by dropping but if it doesn't stay that way, it will be a very tough football job. A job that even money won't fix.. No successful coach is gonna go there to get a bunch of L's on the record.

That's the reason Lumberton won't get a high name coach like you're advocating for and also the reason they won't get a high name coach's assistants. Since that's the case.. maybe don't scoff at any possibility. Inexperienced AD's is exactly what yall's pay scale says that you want.

How many football coaches are on staff at Lumberton HS? Start here: Offer the salary that will entice the type of coach you're looking for, free up money in the budget to give stipends that will allow them to bring whoever they need, and allow it for a reasonable number of coaches that winning programs need.

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Money does talk. However, your facilities is a completely different pool of money than your salaries. I'm not sure the case with Lumberton, but last time I checked the pay scale was pretty embarrassing. Even though I doubt it, administrator salaries are normally negotiable. Lumberton probably has an admin pay range or so like a lot of SeTx schools. But say I'm wrong... lets assume Lumberton opens up the checkbook for a big name coach. You think assistant coaches will be lining up to make whatever Lumberton pays (probably not much) on a probable undersized staff? There more that goes into it than just paying one person 100K to be your football coach.

I'd think that a program such as Lumberton's shouldn't be quick to dismiss any option. I don't know anything about this person.. maybe he's good. Either way, who do you expect to get? I know that ANY AD job is attractive in some ways to a lot of coaches but Lumberton doesn't necessarily have a background of being a good football job.

Just based on some things... I think HD wins a playoff game next year. As long as this same group is still playing together, next year they'll get a 1 seed and win a playoff game. Crazier things have happened and a lot changes.. but I see WS taking this one.

Spoiler alert.. Art Briles doesn’t care about anyone in this comment thread’s opinion.

The virus is most definitely real... the reaction to it is overly exaggerated.

Crazier things have happened.

Perhaps the cancellations were due to actual active cases or at least a positive test. If there happens to be siblings (sister volleyball player / brother football player) then I'm pretty certain the rules say they must quarantine being in the same household. Or.. if a positive test in either locker room the whole team would quarantine per UIL/TEA mandate. People's feelings on the seriousness of the virus are irrelevant. The state hasn't lifted the regulations.. so.. Out of anyone's hands.

Perhaps he is. If so, they need to let him run the athletic program. I'm not saying that basketball can't have importance at a smaller school, but if the school has football.. then the program should be weighted toward football.

No clue.. but that district is too much. It won't matter. It could potentially be respectable but HD won't win a playoff game this year. Maybe next.

I predict for HD to go 1-1 over their next two games.

The correct response if to feel bad for the seniors. There's a chance that of those seniors, there may have been at least one that cared enough to not want to end the career this way. Hopefully they all did. However, as mentioned above, when the Athletic Director is as basketball heavy as the one they have... it's not surprising to see the football program go by the wayside. I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner in the year. It's hard enough to take losses but to do it with minimal players makes it all the more difficult. Hate to see it. West Hardin... get a football coach back in there.

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Yes and people seldom take things like this into account. They just make blanket statements like, "Well why is Celina so different than Orangefield (example).. their kids look just like our kids". Um.. yeah. Maybe. But.. have you ever been to that area of North Dallas? Beautiful neighborhoods, brank new businesses, 24 hour accessibility to whatever you need, etc.. There are no "poor areas" in a lot of school districts. Again.. there are ALWAYS exceptions. To deny that a kid's situation doesn't impact athletics/academics is just naïve, though. It's an unfair system that I don't see ever changing.

I'm not even talking about ethnicity at all.. just living condition. A kid that has a healthy diet, ideal living conditions, the financial backing to travel the state/country for speed/strength/academic camps, does not have to work summers and weekends out of necessity, and has a seemingly endless support system will come out better than an identical kid (height, size, age) who doesn't have those. Again.. there are always exceptions. And there are plenty of kids with access to all of that who are average or worse athletically.. but money plays a huge factor. There have even been studies done showing such. I read a very interesting article recently on the differences between Austin Lake Travis (I think) high school and Austin High School. Two schools within miles of each other with polar opposite football success over the last however many years. You can go look at the student parking lots of each school and see some very vast differences without even seeing the teams.

There are always exceptions to the rule. WOS and Newton have overwhelmingly athletic kids sometimes and sometimes the level of competition simply gets beat. Average income or not.. a group of future D1 athletes can and will have success if the teams they're playing are slower, weaker, and/or smaller. I bring up income because in cases all over the state, literally every year, you see teams of communities with money faring better than communities without. Yes, there are players in southeast Texas that come from wealthy families. But not many entire teams. Think about a scenario where every single role player on an entire team has two working parents. That player probably never has to worry about the next meal, the stability of living situation, probably gets to spend summers at speed/strength or sport specific camps instead of working, perhaps has academic tutors, etc.. You tell me if it makes a difference.

Kind of a racist statement, no? But this certainly helps: Households in Winnie, TX have a median annual income of $46,560, which is less than the median annual income of $61,937 across the entire United States. This is in comparison to a median income of $45,318 in 2017, which represents a 2.74% annual growth. The total population in Brock has increased by about 7.8 percent during the past eight years, moving from about 4,100 to 4,400, Smith said. Median income has also increased from $68,000 to about $77,600.

Also true. In my opinion, they should all be based on an individual player's performance over the duration of a season. Just like I believe the district MVP isn't always the best player on the best team. Sometimes, sure. I look at it like this: If the district coaches were putting together a team to play other districts, who's the one they pick first? There's your MVP. If a region was putting together a team to play other regions, the ones selected are your all region team. Same with all state. And I'll be honest, not all publications are the same...but it should be similar. If they're going on statistics of a player. I do understand that it's possible to exaggerate the stats of someone if they play weak competition but on the same token, it's not a player's fault if they're good but on a bad team.

So.. I'm glad that the region/state accolades are somewhat selective but as mentioned before, the spots seem reserved for the deep playoff teams. Mostly. Perhaps it's just laziness. I know what it is with the district picks.. it's trying to keep parents happy. Unfortunately, that mindset is rotting society. I don't even really think that all district is that big of a deal anymore. It's too watered down.

Also.. 20+ years ago they didn't have every starter and most of the bench making all district.

You're not wrong... but it is what it is.