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I’ll take “Reasons Hardin will never be any good in football” for $500, Alex.

It is entirely possible for a team to play better/worse one week later. Or.. maybe HJ is a little better than you think. Or perhaps Silsbee is a little worse. I don’t know.

26-21 is getting thumped?

I was just meaning that it's a little funny. "The Hispanic influx hasn't had an impact on our football team. See.. we had a Hispanic All State kicker." A previous comment alluded to soccer usually being the sport of choice for said demographic. And then you throw out a kicker lol. I just thought it ironic and a little humorous. Yes, I'll agree that there are usually a number of variables that play a role into a usual competitive football program falling off. Shift of demographics still has to be considered.

You're using a kicker as an example?

Corpus Christi Calallen has a lot of players that are NOT Hispanic. And yes.. Region 4 also plays a part. [Hidden Content]-(corpus-christi,tx)/football/roster.htm

Hate to say it.. but I've heard that the WH AD has been known to not be good for football programs. In the name of basketball I mean.

Is it true that Tarkington has a move in that did good things last night? That never hurts.

I meant who will be the one district win?

Who?

Who said it was a hoax? The reaction is the hoax... being killed in a plane crash isn't a hoax either. Doesn't stop people from continuing their lives. I feel sorry for the schools and kids that are held hostage by all of this.

Perhaps you picked the wrong profession. Perhaps we all did.

I don’t know how I feel about this. I’m leaning more towards “if it’s already budgeted, keep it in their salary.” Nobody knows what will happen with football. Maybe they’ll push the seasons back.

It was a joke. I was eluding to the idea that someone who would brag so much on a person.. could likely be that person. If you must know, I don’t know him. I do know I am not surprised AT ALL that he is no longer the coach. Hardin is somewhat predictable.

Coach Haynes, is that you?

Pretty funny. I've seen several different ones of this video.. all comical.

Not every year but consistently over my time down here: Evadale, Nederaland, Silsbee, Barbers Hill, East Chambers.. Up for debate.

I don't think it would be the case if the student already lived in the school's attendance zone.

I have no doubt. Like I said.. I'm all for it.

I agree 100 percent. If a kid changes school in high school, sit a year. Keep in mind, though, that I believe you're underplaying the number of times it actually happens for what is being considered legal reasons. Many, many kids will be affected. Not that it'll hurt anything, but it's gonna cost a lot of varsity participation.

Well.. all of that sounds legal to me. It also seems like nobody was recruited and nobody moved anywhere for athletic purposes. Assuming everything you stated is accurate it falls directly in the guidelines of UIL policy. In which I agree with.

I think there's a limit on the number that come in.. or the height of the students. Of course, I'm being sarcastic. My point is that I'm suspecting a slight bit of hypocrisy.

You tell me what looks more suspicious on paper. Team A- 18/19 they go 23-4 (maxpreps) 19/20 (3 move ins) right now they're 23-3... Team B- 18/19 they go 3-22 (maxpreps) 19/20 (3 move ins) this year 25-12 I mean.. they're probably all legit on paper. Which is all that matters.

That is up to the family of the student, current head coach/AD, and previous head coach/AD to write in on the form.. It's outlined on the PAPF. They are also required to put the current permanent address. If a student has their PAPF checked that it's not a move for athletic purposes, they proved documentation proving that they now live in the district, and the parent/guardian gives a legitimate reason for the move... what exactly else can be done? Other than a thorough investigation as you say.. but what if the investigation also proves that it's legitimate? This is why I've always said that it's almost impossible to govern. Even with all of these suggestions being made it comes down to this.. nobody can control where or why a parent lives where they live. "He didn't move for athletic purposes, I got a new job. There was a divorce. Evicted. We rely on school transportation. WHATEVER." A parent can up and move for whatever reason they want or need to and don't forget.. the older a kid gets and the closer to college they get the more thought goes into these reasons. Even in small towns there are very few k-12 kids anymore in a school system. I mean.. there aren't.. but there is ALWAYS a kid that didn't start with whatever school they graduated from.

I understand what you're saying and hear you loud and clear.. there is no question in my mind that UIL does NOT investigate every "legal guardianship" across every city. There is no question. Are these kids with legal guardians or are they with their parents? I have no doubt that UIL relies on not only the district executive committees in a lot of cases but also the information submitted on that PAP form. Which has to be filled out for every varsity participant that plays in a different Texas public school from one year to another whether they change permanent address or not. BUT.. I would like to think that even though UIL does not investigate every single case, a case in a school that is a perennial state championship contender with three 6'8 move ins.. I would hope they investigate that. If that isn't cause for investigation then they might as well not investigate any of it. In which case... leads me to believe that SURELY this has been looked into and found that no laws were broken. Meaning that these kids actually did move into Yates' school district, with their legal guardians, had their PAP cleared by the DEC, and are now eligible to be playing varsity sports for Jack Yates High School. To be honest I really don't know anything about these three kids that are even in this discussion. Where are they from? Where did they play last year? I mean.. what do you want? If they presumably moved (changed address), with their parents, the PAP showed no red flags, if it was then actually investigated, and everything was shown to be legit,... I'm sorry but it's of my opinion that nothing else can be done. By the way.. it seems hypocritical to me that nobody is saying the exact same things about Hamshire. Didn't they also have 3 move ins this year? Last year their basketball team won 3 games... for the year. This year they won 25 including a win over Silsbee and a win over HJ. What.. it's different because it was competitive as opposed to a blowout? It's different because they won't win a state championship? It's different because the kids aren't 6'8? So what. When I was in college I played with/against several 6'10+ guys even a lot of 6'6-6'8 guards. The best player I ever played with was 6'1 and the best player I ever saw on the floor was 6'3. All irrelevant. My point is that IF everything was done according to the guidlines that UIL has laid out (which I think is the best way to go about it) then I have no problem with it. If not.. then proper punishment should be administered for cheating. The only suggestion I have which is one I've mentioned previously.. if a kid plays at a different high school one year than they did the previous then they should sit out. No matter the reason. Unfortunately, that would impact MANY more students but so be it. By the way.. I wholeheartedly disagree with ALL public school's take/definition of "homeless" students. I don't know exactly but I'm pretty sure that students can be considered homeless for a whole host of reasons that don't necessarily mean that they don't actually have a home to live in. I don't agree with that because funding is in play in regards to homelessness.