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From the volleyball coaches that I have spoken to this week, they play their games and then go to the football game, regardless of where it is or where they are.

I don't, but I will get them.

Oh no, no, no. I spoke of losing Prentice when he went down in the district game against Orangefield. I knew that he would be missed mainly from a defensive standpoint. He was our best perimeter defender, no denying that. He also was the only player on the Tiger team besides Shannon that could create his own shot. Didn't need to be set up. I spoke of that throughout the rest of the season.

No, but they did miss Prentice Lane in that game. He injured his knee a couple of games prior to that 2nd game with HJ. Silsbee really could have used him in that game and also the playoff games. He helped control Jarvis in that first game at HJ. They really missed his defense. It's nice having a '6"2-'6"3 guard out on the perimeter to defend.

Chris Davis?? Is that the plump kid that rained three's for HJ a few years back? ;D

Not to me they didn't. ;D

CONGRATS SgtRey!!!!!!! Where's the cigars? ;D

But you don't understand, LAZEEK, I have gotten the guarentee of several of the Silsbee players that they will not lose to HJ this season. They promised me that I would not be disappointed. ;D Of course this was a promise made after their game with HJ at Silsbee's summer tourney that Silsbee won by 18. Could have been very misleading. ;D

To quote Ivan Drago in Rocky IV, " You will lose". ;D

I can't wait for tomorrow night. I always look forward to this game. Silsbee/Jasper rivalry always gets my memories a going.

Next week, Gabe knows better to wear the shirt you guys are speaking of up in the pressbox at Silsbee. He'll get thrown out on his rear. ;D

I did the best I could. ;D

I was chastised and then given a warning for posting this over on the downlow. It seems that the genious that has posted all that history stuff over there disagrees with what these guys are saying.

This is the first thing I thought about while reading all 12 pages of this topic. While I agree with many that it appears to be a commiment issue with these girls and their parents, one in which I personally do no agree with. The should not be used by those involved in this thread to take a shot at Hooks. This is not his choice, not his responsibility and not something that he can force, contrary to what the "nay sayers" want to say. Dan Hooks has no authority over the Band, Drill Team or the Cheerleaders. He cannot tell them that they are not allowed to participate at this game from that perspective, it's not even his business. That being said, he COULD have influence from the standpoint of the Volleyball team. Yes, he could probably even force them to quit or not allow them back, but as said above, you go from one forfeit to 7 and those 3 girls are not just getting screwed out of one game, but the rest of their season. If I were Dan, I would leave it up to the VB coach. She knows what's best for her team better than anyone. The bottom line is that this is a poor decision (in my opinion) on the part of the girls and parents. I can live with that Gas, fair enough. Good post!

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5th oldest in Texas. I guess that ole saying that these two have been playing since the creation of dirt ain't too far off. ;D One of the best and friendliest rivalries in all of Texas high school football. Mucho respect these two have for each other.

I thank you very much for your insight Grad. You have made me take a step back for the good. I think you know where I am coming from on most of this, but I thank you for making me rethink on how I view this from here on out. I still believe the administration could do something here, maybe put it to the girls as they need to honor their commitment to the volleyball team in order to cheer or dance at the game.

LOL...... w, you don't know the half of it. This has all been a real hoot for me. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

It's involving a football game, it has every right to be in this forum. Checked with the owner on that one.

Kerry, I told you I would do so until you know when. I agree, 100% of the blame shouldn't be on Dan, but a big part of it should. He could nip this in the bud if he wanted too. What's he gonna do AAW? He'll meet with the coach, I'm sure and get her take on it. But if the girls decide they want to quit the vb squad and go to the fb game, what's she gonna do? But the question is, have the girls quit the team or will they be allowed back to play next week? My deal about Hooks is that he is over all athletics at WOS, he does have a say in all this.

But I think more than you know. ;D Are you saying that Hooks is TOTALLY innocent of all this and can do nothing at all about it?

Kerry, I told you I would do so until you know when. I agree, 100% of the blame shouldn't be on Dan, but a big part of it should. He could nip this in the bud if he wanted too.

Thank you, Gary Stelly!!!! Gary Stelly, KOGT.com Members of the West Orange-Stark volleyball team would rather attend Friday's non-district football game in Brookshire than play a district game against Hardin-Jefferson, forcing the Mustangs to forfeit the game because they wouldn't have enough players. Several members of the team are also on the cheerleading squad or drill team and would rather attend the game. And most if not all, are being supported by their parents. Why? Because they have to pay for their kids to be a part of those squads (uniforms, etc.) but not to wear a volleyball uniform. In other words, they want their money's worth. But you don't have to have a certain number of cheerleaders or drill team members to participate on a Friday night. However you do have to have at least six to play volleyball. The move put volleyball coach Gwen Kelly in a pickle. She attempted to get the game moved by Hardin-Jefferson but they said no because of prior commitments. And since it doesn't involve weather, sickness, or death, they shouldn't have to change. So rather than play as a team, a team you joined voluntarily, you abandon your team and your school. And will there be repercussions? Probably not. Let's add that this is a game that they could win! Until this year when Coach Kelly brought her daughter to WOS from Silsbee, the volleyball team hadn't won in two years. They're 12-7 this season and have a chance to win their first district game....nah, let's go to the football game. Now don't blame football. Many have told me they're making them go to football and it's football's decision. Please. Although Dan Hooks hasn't said it, I've known him long enough to know unless you're wearing a uniform or a coaches shirt, he could care less. Maybe you can blame Hooks as the athletic director for not making them play. So let's say he says they have to play and so they just decide to quit instead. Why not? They'd obviously rather cheer and dance. Kelly, who is also the cheerleading sponsor (go figure) to which her daughter is also a member, had to have known this would be a problem at the beginning of the season, as well as the girls and parents involved. If you play basketball, you shouldn't expect as long of a Christmas break. If you play baseball or softball, don't expect a full week of Spring Break. If you play volleyball, there's a chance you might not make it to every football game. If there aren't enough kids that want to play, which includes not having a freshman team already, why not just cancel the season? WOS is cash strapped and has cut just about every sports budget anyway. Save the coaching stipends, the money spent on balls, uniforms, referees, custodians, bus trips, electricity for the gym, and the embarrassment, and give it to the sports that have kids that want to play. That's what happened to soccer. Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a molehill. But in 25 years I've never seen anyone forfeit a district game in any sport. You probably wouldn't have even known what was going on if you haven't read my story or Van's in the Leader. But I've talked to a dozen coaches, some at WOS, who collectively said, "over my dead body" would this be acceptable on my team. I was hoping to get Kelly's response to all of this but my call has not been returned. One volleyball coach said, "It sucks. WOS has improved enough that they could possibly sneak up and beat a playoff contender. I'm not happy about them giving one of them a win for free." In the words of former NFL coach Herm Edwards, "You play to win the game." You don't cheer to win or dance to win. I would not want to be the one who cost my team a game. Maybe that's "old school" thinking. Maybe priorities have changed. By the way, WO-Cove is letting school out at noon on Friday for those that may want to attend the 7:30pm non-district football game. According to Texas Travel it takes two hours and fifteen minutes to get to Brookshire. Directions are on the sports page.

I don't know. What's that got to do with this thread?

Then why is she a volleyball coach?