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I like it. The deeper the better! I’m gonna do an even deeper dive for you and others here shortly!

I'm about to do a deep dive for you. But I bet it's a lot of the former and a little of the latter.

@TheMissingBand in answer of the question you just asked, here's a post I made just this morning.

I think he'd pull some, but Kountze isn't known for much football talent, and Woodville has been successful enough on it's own to keep a lot of the players. Fred and Spurger aren't spitting out football players. Carthage is within 30 minutes of Tatum, Beckville, Joaquin, Marshall, Tenaha, Timpson, Center, and Mt. Enterprise. Oh, and 40 minutes from Longview and Kilgore. And without a doubt they're pulling talent from most if not all of those towns. We're talking about a talent-rich environment. Lots of state championship wins and appearances between those towns in the last 20 years.

Who was the elite coach that won at Allen, then didn’t do so hot at Barbers Hill? Did he forget how to coach on one of those long trips down I45?

Had Santa Clara over UK. 13-4 in the 1st round currently.

At Warren, their history, was it athletes or coaching?

😂 I have a greater chance at winning Texas Lotto and Powerball on the same night than SS getting the type of talent Carthage currently has to move into Warren.

Unless… He attracts the talent to move there

Even if every single hunt vote goes to Paxton, he still wouldn’t have 57%. Your poll was a bunch of maga blowhards voting for Paxton over and over like it was American Idol. My opinion is that most hunt voters want change, but don’t want it bad enough to vote Paxton, even though they knew that Paxton actually had a chance to beat Cornyn. Like I said. The math doesn’t lie. If hunt voters stay home, Cornyn wins. If hunt voters break 50/50, Cornyn wins. Paxton has to dramatically outperform Cornyn among hunt voters to have a shot, and my opinion is that he won’t win that many votes from Hunt.

it's nothing to do with Surratt and everything to do with Warren. In the 30 years before Surratt took over Carthage had 23 winning seasons, three .500 seasons and four losing seasons. They made it to at least the second round of the playoffs 13 times in those 30 years and even played for a state championship. It feels like you're under the illusion that Surratt took over a bad football program and turned them almost instantly into a winner. That couldn't be further from the truth. He took over a pretty good program with some really good talent and turned them into a great program that attracted even better talent. Now they're an elite program that attracts elite talent (which he certainly deserves credit for). On the flipside of that, Warren opened 75 years ago and has 4 playoff appearances in those 75 years. They had 1 playoff "win" in 1958 where they tied and advanced on penetrations. In the last 50 years they have 8 winning seasons, but only made the playoffs twice because they get most of their wins by finding even worse teams to schedule before district. Would Warren improve dramatically if Surratt came to town? Obviously. But they aren't winning district in 7 years, much less a state championship.

Smalley is a good coach… not elite in my book at this point. To answer AAW, Joseph is elite and will be considered as such for a long time, even without a return trip to Dallas. Hickman from WOS is apparently a better coach then I expected, and a few more seasons like last year will have him moving into the elite category with Joseph. I don’t even know who’s in newton these days, but they aren’t elite. Barbray and Johnston weren’t either, but that’s a completely different subject.

Kentucky from half court to force OT

Kinda like you getting tricked into believing Trump was a bad candidate that couldn’t win in 2024 and he won anyway, great prediction CB! 😂 I’m not apologizing for I believe will be a beat down on Cornyn. I don’t see any where in that poll that says all Hunt voters will go to Paxton but maybe I need my eyes checked. Lol

How could you possibly know that for sure? What in Surratt's past head coaching history would make you think he couldn't?!

No, there's always variables that come into play. Just like when 89falcon explained that different variable could have happened as to why Danaher never won a State Title. PS -- just like I explained before about why Joe Gibbs wasn't as successful the second time around with the Redskins -- variables! And this actually came from him.

Surratt winning a state title at Warren over the next 7 years? No offense to Warren… but no it’s not happening

Chuck Norris doesn’t read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants. Atlas retired when Chuck Norris was born.

It’s also important to note that your poll is trash. The final results earlier this month were Cornyn 41.9, Paxton 40.7, and Hunt at 13.5, then the others. According to your poll, people who voted for Cornyn are now deciding to vote Paxton in the runoff. With Cornyn “dropping” from 41.9% to 37%… a ten percent decrease in the number of people who’ve already voted Cornyn in the primary. Like I said… If I were you, I’d edit my post to remove an obvious trash poll and either a) pretend it was a joke or b) apologize to the board for getting tricked by a fake poll.

I think you’ll see something like Ashby/Ward in Texas SD 3, where “we the people” (who are actually something like 8% of the total population) will find themselves befuddled that their candidate just isn’t likable and doesn’t win.

John Wayne Cornyn the Fraud! Can’t wait for him to get his Whooping!

BC has generally been a bad football team for the better part of 3 decades, but have had groups of kids who've given them a couple of years of good teams here and there. Without a doubt they've had a special group of kids the last couple of years and it's shown. There was a local coach in another sport who had a special player and took a traditionally bad program to unprecedented success for a couple of years, and he was anointed as one of the area's elites (often by himself, but by others as well) after two good seasons. In the five years since that player graduated the program has slid back first into mediocrity and then into the cellar. That coach isn't mentioned with the elites anymore. What's yet to be seen is whether Smalley is going to maintain success once these players all graduate, or if BC will fall from the peak back into another valley when this group of kids is all gone. I think he's a good coach. If he can sustain success at BC (or leaves for another school and finds more success), i'll have no issue calling him an elite coach. If they're 5-5 or 3-7 in two years then i'll assume the recent success had a lot more to do with the players than the coaching. In reality I'm sure it had a lot to do with both. Regardless, he's not winning a state title with BC, and that doesn't exclude him from becoming elite there if he can sustain success.

What would be the reason for the decline from 25 years ago if he is an "elite" coach? Did he lose his "elite" coaching abilities?

Yes, 2 State Titles puts you in the elite club no matter what happens down the road. Just think about all the coaches that can't even play in one much less win one. BTW, this is for football only. So, as of now there won't be a "she" involved.

BC HC Josh Smally fits this. But I dont consider him in the top 1% yet. @Reagan's 3% was generous. Doesn't mean he's not a great coach. Just not Elite. Still some years left to make the jump. If they continue the recent success it will snowball into more and more. Look for them to compete with WOS very well next season