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Orange County Baller reacted to a post in a topic:
BC/LCM watch scandal?
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Nederland turned in 1546. That’s solidly in the middle of 5ad2. And isn’t that roughly the same as they had about 10 years ago? I’m having trouble finding what Nederland used to turn in around 2017-ish, but PNG was hovering around 1450 and Nederland was always about 100 more. Nederland isn’t shrinking. It’s just not growing.
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Lost it on the opening kickoff. Video (which I have personally seen) shows an LC-M player pick it up off the field and walk over to sideline and hand it to one of his coaches. Player may have thought he left it in locker room. Not sure he was a starter or not.
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lovethegame19 reacted to a post in a topic:
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lovethegame19 reacted to a post in a topic:
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I cannot fault BC for loosing the device. When they realized one was missing, they then asked for it back. That's where LC-M dropped the ball in denying they even had the device even though game film afterwards showed they did indeed have it. It's an ethics thing. Looks bad on LC-M part in claiming innocence of it all. BC is not being petty at all in this instance.
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How did LC-M find this watch? Did a BC player lose it off his wrist but never knew it until almost halftime?
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I heard the same thing. Probably pretty basic. But still, the timing is in question.
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No worse than stealing signs in baseball, BC fault for losing the device. No worse than coaches getting signals from teams on game film and if they don’t change it up it’s on them. Seems like BC is being petty to me.
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Was told almost anyone would know what to do if they saw it.
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A lot of what ifs in that ... I'll just go with how the game played out . First half 17-0 LCM with BC play calls in hand . Second half 16-7 BC against a watchless LCM Defensive Coordinator. Another coincidence...that was probably the best half of football for the LCM defense this year.
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BC uses electronic wristbands or "watches". OC has a tablet and sends play to those devices. The offensive players wear these watch devices on their wrists. That was what was found on the field by an LC-M player and given to one of his coaches.
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And were saying THE offensive coordinator relays the plays via watch? Personally every game I've seen its a standard play sheet and vocal or hand signals.
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I can see that side of it. But keep this in mind: The coach or coaches would have to know the terminology that BC uses for their play calling unless it's very basic terminology due to being high school players. Also, I am told the Offensive Co. doesn't send in play from tablet until just a few seconds before snap. That would be very difficult to get your defense ready for the play even if known right before the snap. It's very quick in real time. Now I am not denying that some kind of advantage could have taken place. It just depends on how basic BC was with their terms and how quickly LC-M could pick up on it.
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May not have broken any rules, but that’s bush league. And any LCM fan acting like it wasn’t a major advantage, and quite possibly the difference in the game is delusional.
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Speculation without knowing the number. That was that soccer site basically "guessing" without knowing the actual number.
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I would say it didn't hurt. Come on acting like having every offensive play call in the first half didn't play a part is naive 😂
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So the watch is why lcm won the game? C'mon. Right wrong or indifferent move on.
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Gaining a competitive advantage is 100% a part of sports. Sign stealing , deflating footballs, ect..ect Why shouldn't Smalley be pissed in the scenario above. I think anyone on his side of the situation is pissed right now. At the time that game goes a long way for the DC. At the end of the day no rules were truly broken. Lying during and afterwards on having the watch is definitely low on the integrity scale ... especially if video shows otherwise.
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Nick just posted lumberton moves up to 5A for soccer.
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You mean to tell me Lumberton lost 50 kids in the last two years? Impossible
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Coach Smalley is an excellent coach and a good person. What an asinine statement by a Lumberton fan on him being a sore loser. For the LC-M coach that did not give the watch back, he should be suspended
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Caldwell 532.5 Lorena 539 Newton 282 Shiner 201 Refugio 188
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What Week 11 game(s) will you be attending?
navydawg31 replied to AggiesAreWe's topic in High School Football
Lol I been asked several times that already from my buddies, I’m excited for it. Been a while since I ate Goode Company, -
What Week 11 game(s) will you be attending?
AggiesAreWe replied to AggiesAreWe's topic in High School Football
Got room for one more Sunday? lol -
Here are the details that I know. In the LC-M/BC game of two weeks ago an incident happened at the beginning of the game that caused BC to raise questions. BC has electronic wristbands for their offensive play calling. The offensive players wear these "watches" and the offensive co. gives the play call from his tablet to these watches. This is the first year that UIL has allowed teams to use these devices. BC and a couple of other area teams use these devices. I hear they are pretty expensive. But that's here nor there. At the beginning of the game (opening kickoff) an LC-M player found one of these "watches" and instead of giving it to a game official (which in NCAA rules, you are required to) he gave it to one of his coaches. The coach never gave it to an official. It was shown on game film the coach being handed the "watch". It was also shown on game film during the game that this coach, who is an offensive coach, stayed very close to the defensive co. all during the first half. BC did not learn of the watch missing until right before halftime. They asked for it back. But it is not the responsibility of game officials to ask the opponent for it. School admins, coaches have to get involved. TASO has no say so in the matter. They are only responsible when given the device to get it back to rightful team. BC even had coaches and admins search LC-M sidelines during halftime to look for watch. There is also no in game penalty to access the team who confiscated the device. LC-M claimed they did not have the device and has yet to turn it over. But video evidence shows otherwise. What the video doesn't prove if the coach or coaches were able to use the device to their advantage. But the halftime score was 17-0 in favor of LC-M. BC stopped using their devices in 2nd half. Final score was 24-16, LC-M. A meeting today of the district supts. to discuss this issue and vote on a possible forfeiture or reprimands. The vote was 3-3. So no forfeiture. This is definitely an ethics situation and not necessarily a rules violation. DEC and UIL would have to govern and determine what type action. IMO, it's a black eye on all involved but like I stated earlier, should not warrant a forfeiture of game.
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4A D2 Madisonville 3 Liberty 2 (23-25,25-12,25-19,18-25,15-11)
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Talent may have dropped some as of late ,the naked eye can’t tell by watching a game..the first couple years after he left the talent was identical.Hard for me to believe talent dropped all of a sudden though since it hasn’t”dropped “since 1977!