PNG and growth?

[FearTheSpear]

I married into the whole purple cult thing and genuinely love it but I’ve for a few questions.  The city line and school district lines are so confusing.  You’ve got a lot of Port neches homes that are Nederland school district, a part of Groves that is PA school district, etc.  I’ve heard numerous PN citizens opposed to apartments, etc, things to expand the enrollment of our school.  While I don’t agree with open enrollment, it’s hard to grow when there’s limited space for people to move to.    Is it an old way of thinking?  Is it people who are stuck in their ways and don’t want to grow?  It almost feels like “we gotta keep the trash out” mentality.  Hopefully I’m wrong.  
 

Coming at it from a football perspective, it would do them some good to gain about 200 kids and move up to D1.  It would make sense logistically.  I’m not trying to start any bs, it’s just something that’s been on my mind.  

[CCRed]

57 minutes ago, FearTheSpear said:

I married into the whole purple cult thing and genuinely love it but I’ve for a few questions.  The city line and school district lines are so confusing.  You’ve got a lot of Port neches homes that are Nederland school district, a part of Groves that is PA school district, etc.  I’ve heard numerous PN citizens opposed to apartments, etc, things to expand the enrollment of our school.  While I don’t agree with open enrollment, it’s hard to grow when there’s limited space for people to move to.    Is it an old way of thinking?  Is it people who are stuck in their ways and don’t want to grow?  It almost feels like “we gotta keep the trash out” mentality.  Hopefully I’m wrong.  
 

Coming at it from a football perspective, it would do them some good to gain about 200 kids and move up to D1.  It would make sense logistically.  I’m not trying to start any bs, it’s just something that’s been on my mind.  

Sounds like they are “Land-Locked” and will have no room for growth. Likely to either stay in the same classification or drop down as schools around them grow. Just part of it. 

[FearTheSpear]

41 minutes ago, CCRed said:

Sounds like they are “Land-Locked” and will have no room for growth. Likely to either stay in the same classification or drop down as schools around them grow. Just part of it. 

I get the feeling a lot of the folks around here don’t want any growth.  

[BMTSoulja1]

33 minutes ago, FearTheSpear said:

I get the feeling a lot of the folks around here don’t want any growth.  

The thing is that Port Neches is truly landlocked.  Nederland on one side, refineries, Neches River, Port Arthur….  Where is the growth going to come from? 
 

I must say, I do see Port Neches-Groves schools buses picking and dropping kids off in Port Arthur zones and apartments…

[FearTheSpear]

6 minutes ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

The thing is that Port Neches is truly landlocked.  Nederland on one side, refineries, Neches River, Port Arthur….  Where is the growth going to come from? 
 

I must say, I do see Port Neches-Groves schools buses picking and dropping kids off in Port Arthur zones and apartments…

I think my main question is how you have families living in port neches but having to send their kids to Nederland.  It’s never made sense to me.  Would that be a zoning issue?

[BMTSoulja1]

20 minutes ago, FearTheSpear said:

I think my main question is how you have families living in port neches but having to send their kids to Nederland.  It’s never made sense to me.  Would that be a zoning issue?

Dunno.

[NHSBulldogFan]

Nederland actually has people with Port Arthur and Beaumont addresses that are in Nederland ISD take those away and Nederland is a 4A school 

[prepballfan]

PN-G is 100% landlocked. He is correct. 

[Austin1985]

1 hour ago, FearTheSpear said:

I think my main question is how you have families living in port neches but having to send their kids to Nederland.  It’s never made sense to me.  Would that be a zoning issue?

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I use to work with maps while working for the Jefferson Co apraisal district back when it was off 39th St in Groves many moons ago.  My understanding is it was the county lines, then the school district lines.  Un-incorporated areas became cities and that's why you have city boundaries not matching the school district's lines.  Also, neighborhood developers just build in an empty field not really paying attention to school district lines unless they will use it as a selling point.  But to your initial question:  that whole area between 365 and Jimmy Johnson is a cluster but I remember when all of that was rice fields

[PNG4LIFE91]

54 minutes ago, FearTheSpear said:

I think my main question is how you have families living in port neches but having to send their kids to Nederland.  It’s never made sense to me.  Would that be a zoning issue?

I’m guessing it’s got a lot to do with zoning because some areas are inside Nederland and PA city limits but considered PNGISD.  I lived in a apartment complex on Jimmy Johnson, not far from Twin City Hwy a long time ago which is PA city limits but a couple of the sections up front were in PNGISD and the others were PAISD…CRAZINESS!!  They did some rezoning in that area years ago so that one is all PAISD now but I think a couple of the complexes closer to Twin City are still PNGISD.  

[FearTheSpear]

Thanks for the clarification, I’m even more confused now 😂😂.  It’s a complete mess.  As far as football goes, they should just opt up.  Road games wouldn’t be a 3 hour drive and the talent gap between D2 and D1 is minimal 

[PNG4LIFE91]

1 hour ago, FearTheSpear said:

Thanks for the clarification, I’m even more confused now 😂😂.  It’s a complete mess.  As far as football goes, they should just opt up.  Road games wouldn’t be a 3 hour drive and the talent gap between D2 and D1 is minimal 

Haha, just another one of life’s greatest mysteries! 🤔 Seeing a house with a PNG yard sign out front and one across the street with a Nederland sign is totally a thing around here…lol!  

[1970]

1 hour ago, FearTheSpear said:

Thanks for the clarification, I’m even more confused now 😂😂.  It’s a complete mess.  As far as football goes, they should just opt up.  Road games wouldn’t be a 3 hour drive and the talent gap between D2 and D1 is minimal 

Austin 1985 explained it, see his above post.  I met my wife at PNG, and the principal lived next door, and a couple of houses down the street the houses were in Nederland school district. She was just a couple of houses from going to Nederland, and we may have never met. 

As far as apartments, there may be one or two new ones, but what I see are new RV parks springing up all over, although there may not be a lot of school children there.  Eventually IMO PNG and Nederland both will drop down to 4A. 

[FearTheSpear]

1 hour ago, 1970 said:

Austin 1985 explained it, see his above post.  I met my wife at PNG, and the principal lived next door, and a couple of houses down the street the houses were in Nederland school district. She was just a couple of houses from going to Nederland, and we may have never met. 

As far as apartments, there may be one or two new ones, but what I see are new RV parks springing up all over, although there may not be a lot of school children there.  Eventually IMO PNG and Nederland both will drop down to 4A. 

We’d have to lose a few hundred kids.  I believe Nederland is closer to that 4a d1 number 

[pakronos]

14 hours ago, PNG4LIFE91 said:

I’m guessing it’s got a lot to do with zoning because some areas are inside Nederland and PA city limits but considered PNGISD.  I lived in a apartment complex on Jimmy Johnson, not far from Twin City Hwy a long time ago which is PA city limits but a couple of the sections up front were in PNGISD and the others were PAISD…CRAZINESS!!  They did some rezoning in that area years ago so that one is all PAISD now but I think a couple of the complexes closer to Twin City are still PNGISD.  

Bent Tree apartments located on Lake Arthur, had kids getting off a pnisd bus. Those apartments is about a mile from memorial high school. I live in Groves. 3 blocks to the west is paisd, but I’m zoned in pngisd. My daughter “lives” with my mom to go yo memorial lol

[FearTheSpear]

38 minutes ago, pakronos said:

Bent Tree apartments located on Lake Arthur, had kids getting off a pnisd bus. Those apartments is about a mile from memorial high school. I live in Groves. 3 blocks to the west is paisd, but I’m zoned in pngisd. My daughter “lives” with my mom to go yo memorial lol

Come on over and wear that purple and white 😂😂

[PNG4LIFE91]

26 minutes ago, pakronos said:

Bent Tree apartments located on Lake Arthur, had kids getting off a pnisd bus. Those apartments is about a mile from memorial high school. I live in Groves. 3 blocks to the west is paisd, but I’m zoned in pngisd. My daughter “lives” with my mom to go yo memorial lol

Yeah, when my daughter was in Indianettes back in 2010-2012, her football locker boy was the son of a “infamous” PA police officer and he lived in the PNGISD section of Bent Tree apartments at the time…lol!  

[BEARCPA]

18 hours ago, PNG4LIFE91 said:

I’m guessing it’s got a lot to do with zoning because some areas are inside Nederland and PA city limits but considered PNGISD.  I lived in a apartment complex on Jimmy Johnson, not far from Twin City Hwy a long time ago which is PA city limits but a couple of the sections up front were in PNGISD and the others were PAISD…CRAZINESS!!  They did some rezoning in that area years ago so that one is all PAISD now but I think a couple of the complexes closer to Twin City are still PNGISD.  

This makes me feel better. I've lived in Orange most of my life and still get headaches when I try to figure out the city lines/school zones for Port Arthur, Nederland, Port Neches, & Groves lol.

[Lamar1996]

I live in Port Neches, but I send my kids to SOC.

[WOSdrummer99]

10 minutes ago, BEARCPA said:

This makes me feel better. I've lived in Orange most of my life and still get headaches when I try to figure out the city lines/school zones for Port Arthur, Nederland, Port Neches, & Groves lol.

I dont know bout them. But ours isnt exactly perfect either. One block from a WOS school is LC-M district.

[pakronos]

3 hours ago, FearTheSpear said:

Come on over and wear that purple and white 😂😂

I’d stick hot nails in my eyes first! I did give my daughter an unbiased choice and she chose memorial 

[1970]

It's very common, really, all over the area. A niece of mine lived in the kountz isd but closer to silsbee, and attended church in silsbee, and somehow ended up attending school there. 

[FearTheSpear]

1 hour ago, pakronos said:

I’d stick hot nails in my eyes first! I did give my daughter an unbiased choice and she chose memorial 

That’s understandable.  My wife teaches in PA so I could send my kid over there if he wanted 

[AshlyHasBeen]

19 hours ago, FearTheSpear said:

Thanks for the clarification, I’m even more confused now 😂😂.  It’s a complete mess.  As far as football goes, they should just opt up.  Road games wouldn’t be a 3 hour drive and the talent gap between D2 and D1 is minimal 

The long drives are only for football, so honestly it's not a huge deal. They definitely wouldn't opt up to compete against some schools that have nearly 1,000 more students.