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It's hard to describe just how poorly coached they are. The corners have absolutely no idea how to play corner.  Terry would run a simple 8 yard out and every time the Lee corners would turn their back and start running and get turned around and be about 15 yards away by the time Terry receiver caught the ball. I've never understood the Lee bend and break defense they utilize the last few years.  They are so bad that it usually takes only 6 plays to go 80 yards.  Why play the base defense so much.  Play a little man to man, try to blitz, shake something up, do anything, actually coach the team and make some calls.  Just as soon have them go 80 yards in 3 plays.  But maybe you get a sack, maybe with 3 men in his face, the qb makes a mistake, maybe a fumble, who knows....certainly not a Lee fan because they haven't called a defense all year.  It feels like a game of Madden where they found one good defense, and just call it every time.  Except the good adjective does not apply here. Terry's guys would be right up on Lee's receivers, it led to an interception on the first drive.  And Lee's receivers are better than Terry's(outside of maybe Griffin for Terry, and I still believe Richardson is better).  Obviously Terry's corners are better because they have a semblance of an idea of what needs to be done to cover a receiver.  Technique I believe it is called.  Lee doesn't believe in it. I can only imagine they got the resumes and interviews mixed up and thought this coach was interviewing for a junior high job or something.  You can tell he doesn't have enough football knowledge to bestow upon the kids to make them reach their potential.  Maybe he gives a great interview.  Luckily Terry's quarterback was not very fast.  If he was, then he would have had 400 yards rushing.  He had huge lanes to run through, but Lee was much faster than him and caught him after 10 yards usually.  Lee had no idea how to stop the veer.  They did not understand what their assignment was from play to play.  There would be multiple guys tackling the fullback without the ball on one play, then those same three guys would all get the qb on the next play even though he had just handed to the fullback.  Again, assignment football, Lee does not believe in it. It is painful to watch.  Goose Creek obviously made a disastrous hire with this guy.  He is in way, way over his head at the varsity high school level.  Lee could actually still make the playoffs, because they are more athletically gifted than most teams they will play.  They certainly won't win anything based on scheme or execution though. They remind me of a poor man's Port Arthur Memorial when they had that string of poor coaches.  PAM had even better athletes than Lee, but they all just looked like chickens with their heads cut off running around out there.  No idea of what actions to take to create positive plays to eventually win football games.  Lee is in even worse shape though.  They play just as poorly as those teams, yet don't have near the depth of athletes across the board. It is going to get much, much worse as a Lee fan. This year they have better athletes than most teams they play, but from the looks of the freshman teams the past few years, that is about to come to an abrupt end. I think I will follow the games from home the rest of this year.  Too much gas money wasted to watch such a poorly coached team.

[url=[Hidden Content]] Exhibit A over on Youtube of why it won't happen. I root for Memorial, but they just don't have the mental toughness when they run into some turbulence. Watch the first few minutes of that youtube clip, and it looks like PAM should win that game by 50. Then you see two consecutive fumbles and they give up.

Well I'm out This could esily get to 75 for Terry Lee really messed upthis hire He is in deep. Way way over his head. Goes to show having a dad be a coach does not ensure you are goingto be anygood atit

27-7 You can tell lees no idea who is supposed to get who against this oPtion attack Completely lost

Lees corners honestly look like they have ne'er been taught any kinda technique at all They turn their back and start running when the ball s snapPed even though they are 10 yards off the Los 21-7 two minutes in first

Zellars with an 80 yard td to Landry That's what hurts is knowing these guys are at an athletic advantage but such a schematic disadvantage 14-7 terry

These coaches are just stealing money from the district.  Lee is so poorly coached it hurts to watch.  7-0 Terry after two mnutes Lee comes out with a horrible playcall for an easy int 14-0 now. Lee defenders jet running around jump g around like bozo the clOwn out here lol

Man what an atmosphere out here inbaytwn tonight.  Must be 35 Terry fans and 55 lee fans

I was just giving Sterling a little bit of ribbing there. I probably shouldn't as it looks like hard times are about to be upon Lee very soon. Harder times than the 1-9 from last year. The last two freshman teams have been absolutely horrendous.  Couldn't beat most 8th grade A teams probably. I think they have been outscored 86-0 after last week this year.  Last year they were probably 0-10 and outscored 400-25 near as I could tell.

[url=[Hidden Content]] Strollin Nolan at around the 6:30 mark

Anyon remember ol Strollin Nolan Richardson walking out of the Texas game early back in 1990? Then they tied it up and he came back out for overtime lol If you're going to walk to the locker room before the game is over, you need to follow that through until completion of the game.

I would be more familiar with Baytown. The area of Baytown in which I grew up, known as Pelly, has changed completely.  I almost thought I had shown up to the wrong game when I went to watch Lee play Sterling. It's probably pushing 70% Hispanic now. I think most of the people in that area probably do work in the refineries of Baytown and Deer Park area. There is just no connection to the school for the people that live there now  You do not have many fans going unless they have a kid in the band or on the team.  There are no casual fans other than me and a few others maybe. The Lee band used to be one of the best in the state.  They would have well over 300 members.  They would spell out Ganders from goal line to goal line across the field.  Then they started spelling out Lee instead, now they can probably barely muster up an L.

Couple of things here. One, Baytown has a huge stadium, so it's always going to look a little empty unless there are 10,000+ there. The home side of Stallworth probably is as big as any other stadium's entire capacity in the Golden Triangle. 19-4A is closer to Houston.  As such, there is a lot more to get into on a Friday night. You're not going to have a community type feel at CE King.  How many people that are living in that zone have been there for more than 10 years.  Not many I would bet.  Baytown and Galena Park are the same way.  Just a bunch of new transplants.  People trying to move closer to the refineries or to the job base of Houston. I would venture to guess Lumberton and Nederland and the like have families that all know each other, have grown up there for generations, etc. It's just a different demographic of people.

Can't tell you how many times this sounded like a good idea when playing in PA or BMT. ;)

It's unbelievable how small of an issue can be blown out of proportion like this. If racism were dead then the NAACP and the like would no longer have a place.  That's why they look high and low for any minute thing that can possibly be mis-represented as racism. Of course this wasn't racist.  You would have to be an idiot to think this had a shred of racism in it any where.  No sane person would even hint at it. If an alien came down and witnessed this sort of thing, they would immediately blow up the planet for being a lost cause.  Unfortunately there are people that make their living on fighting racism, so they must invent said racism to fight. It's like those stories you hear about the Japanese soldiers that were still fighting WW2 decades after the war was over. Come on out boys and smell the fresh air.  It smells good out here. 

Maybe we should create a different thread for just the whoopings that everyone put on Baytown Sterling.  Then this one could be for the whoopings everyone else took.

[quote name="tvc184" post="1051130" timestamp="1315370838"] [quote author=panamamyers link=topic=87793.msg1051118#msg1051118 date=1315369418] Didn't Crosby just beat PNG? [/quote] Yes. And? [/quote] This early in the season you have little evidence to go on, so head-to-head matchups like that one should carry a lot of weight.  PNG played a horrible team in GP and a good team in Crosby.  Crosby played a great team in Montgomery and a good team in PNG. The outliers being the Montgomery and GP games, and the most important game then being the head-to-head. To put it bluntly, it's preposterous to have PNG ahead of Crosby right now.

Didn't Crosby just beat PNG?

I think it was 2001. Lee beat Sterling 62-7. I believe it was either 49 or 56-7 at the half. They had a running clock in the second half. Tate threw for 7 td's in the first half alone.  Lee(9-0 at the time) proceeded to play state ranked North Shore the next week at Dement stadium and got dismantled, probably 60-28 or something along those lines.  Lee just didn't have a defense.  NS had just enough defense to make it diffficult on Lee. That may have been the year that Lee lost to Humble in the second round of the playoffs(after working over Clear Creek in tthe Dome).  The years run together for me.  Humble REALLY stoned the Lee offense.  35-7 I'm remembering vaguely.

[quote name="cbear4" post="1050190" timestamp="1315270862"] 20-4A from top to bottom is more solid that 19-4A, IMO. There seems to be some solid coaches in 20-4A that prepare their kids very well each week even with weaker talent. There are several teams in 19-4A that have plenty of talent but are not put in a good postion to win, especially if the game is close. Just an observation and I wish it were not the case. I hear the Baytown area used to be crazy about their sports teams, but I think it will take some consistent winning seasons to get the mojo back there.The fans in 20-4A are crazy about their teams and I think it has to do with high school being just about the only game in town and get much coverage from the media. Not the case when playing so close to Houston. [/quote] I remember going to watch Lee in the third round of the playoffs against Hastings back in 1997 at Tully stadium.  The only time under Olin that Lee made it that far.  We filled up our entire side of the stadium, standing room only, and about 1/2 of the Hastings side.  Baytown used to have a very devoted fanbase.  I remember the season tickets we would get and the same people would get season tickets around us every year for decades.  I doubt if more than 9 or 10 people even buy season tickets now. Different demographic has moved into Baytown over the past 20 years.  They just don't have the same sort of investment into the teams. I want to say that they would turn out again for a winner, but I don't know if that is even the case.

I see where Atascocita had nearly 500 yards against SH. Sterling looked pretty bad to me. They HAVE to get the ball to Gibson more on offense. Throw him that deep ball 5 or 6 times a game at least. There s plenty of room for that type of play in that offense.  At least once every other drive they have to go to it. They have a DISTINCT advantage with Gibson going against any two db's the other team has back there.

Well they had 250 yards of offense and 4 turnovers. I wasn't at the game so I can't really say one way or the other. Lee has such a simple, rudimentary offense.  It reminds more of a pee-wee league offense.  There is no amount of deception or sophistication or continuity to the offense.  They probably have one of the top four or five skill position groups of any team in the Houston area on any level.  It's a shame that the offense has the complexity of the offense I ran on my Intellivision football game back in the early 80's. I guess I am asking for too much.  Any offensive mind worth his salt would have moved on along to the college game by now.

I assume that was you on Twitter with the updates? If so, I appreciate it.

LP 37-10 with a minute and change to go in the 3rd. Lee just doesn't have the horses to play with good 5A(or 4A or 3A for that matter) teams.

Maybe they are a powerhouse