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Baytown Lee vs. La Porte Game Thread/La Porte wins!
gary-us-bonds replied to WOSgrad's topic in SETXsports Archived Threads
I assumed LP would rip through the Ganders like nobody's business. I just hope that Lee is having marginal success at the very least on offense. Guess I will have to wait and see the stats. LP is a very tough 5A team. -
Baytown Lee vs. La Porte Game Thread/La Porte wins!
gary-us-bonds replied to WOSgrad's topic in SETXsports Archived Threads
I'm stuck here in Chicago for a wedding. Chronicle says 21-7 LP. -
How far back is modern? Lewisville won multiple championships in the 90's with nothing but triple option, rarely threw a pass if ever in most games. Clear lake way outperformed their talent in my opinion. I guess that I just don't think it's wise to build your schemes around what is popular or what will get you scholarships. Brett favre played option ball in high school if I remember correctly. There are enough camps out there and 7 on 7 to get noticed even in a run first offense.
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I don't necessarily disagree with you that maybe this isn't the best offense for Sterling. I just don't think that the ability of the offense to get kids seen and scholarships should be the deciding factor on anything. If he wins, all of this will be moot. No one has been able to win at Sterling in nearly 30 years. Clint probably wouldn't have been much of a fan of the current Lee offense either. Who knows, Lee may have had a guy that could have been all world as n option qb under Olin that never got the chance because the offense was not suited for him. This hypothetical athlete might have had a scholarship to Nebraska or Virginia Tech waiting on him had he played option b instead of being a 3rd receiver. Just saying, this stuff works both ways.
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La Porte vs Baytown Lee predictions
gary-us-bonds replied to LP0175's topic in SETXsports Archived Threads
Lee is much better on offense. They probably are about in the same boat on defense. LP could have worked them by 70 last year if they wanted. I can't remember what the score actually was. If Lee comes out and scores first then I think they have an outside chance on this game. I could see them fumbling on the first two possessions and getting down 21-0 after 6 minutes too though and then it will be a whoopin from there. -
Brian Johnson moved out of Crosby and came to Baytown Lee for some of the same reasons. I guess if Sterling had a tall, pro-style quarterback in the mold of a Ryan Mallett, then sure he would probably want to transfer. That aint the case at the moment. O course a guy like Vince Young would have wanted to transfer out of Katy so that he could show his own running skills more. You can't please everyone. The next time Sterling has a dropback passer along the lines of a Tom Brady come along will be the first, so I think they are ok. Chance Nelson is like a very, very poor man's Vick that has absolutely zero ability to pass the ball. Nelson is slippery and quick, but he's probably 5'9" 165 lbs. Vick is much faster and was probably 6' 180 at the same age. I just don't see any particular reason to like one type of offense over another. If it works, it works. If Sterling wins 7-8 games per year and a pro-style passer happens to transfer to Friendswood because of the offense, then so be it. Andy Dalton had 3500 yards passing in his entire high school career. If he had transferred to Lee he could have had 7500 yards and been a top national recruit. He was an under the radar guy, because he played in a run-first offense at Katy.
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Is Crooms still coaching defense at PAM? I always have had a soft spot for the Titans., except when they played Lee. Hope they can put it together finally and get something done in the postseason this year. Lord knows they have the athletes. I think the x-factor for the Titans, more so than the coaching staff, is what it always has been with them, mental toughness. They have a tendency to completely fall apart at the seams when things get tough.
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While I agree on the college level that you may want to run an offense that will give kids the best opportunity to get to the NFFL, I'm not quite as sure that it matters on the high school level. You have to be able to recruit the kids to get a good college football team, and they may not want to go to a school that runs an ancient offense. In high school, you get whatever kids live in your zone and you make the best with what you got, so if he thinks he can win with this offense.... It's not like Katy has a forward thinking offense. They just stuff it down people's throat. Haack threw for a little over 100 yards/game last year for them. If a guy is good enough to get to college, then he will be found out regardless of the offense. The Demaryius Thomas kid from GT is a perfect example again. Very high draft pick as a receiver coming from this exact offense that Sterling is running. If Sterling had Michael Vick at qb, then every college in the nation would be beating his door down, regardless of how backwards the offense was. The talent would shine through. Sterling just is devoid of talent on varsity at the moment. I do agree that they should think about bringing the freshmen up. What could it hurt? Get somebody out there to pitch it to that has some natural running ability. Oswold was what he was. I doubt being in a different offense would have changed his ability to make a difference at the next level. He was just a small, semi-quick kid that knew how to run the option.
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Lp 56 lee 21 That would be my best guess at this point. Lee is going to have to show me that they feel that they are a good team. Too much losing the last few years and they expect the worst. Lp is too big and physical on offense I would imagine Going to run through lee like Swiss cheese Lee can move on most teams I they can limit mistakes I Won't be at the game Going to Chicago for a week Going to have to keep me posted
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Yes you read that correctly. The Clear Lake offense. I would expect about a 56-7 win for Humble. Of course this is not knowing a darn thing about what Humble has. Sterling has to find a way to get the ball to Gibson 10-12 times a game on offense. Whether that means putting him at wingback or throwing it deep to him once or twice per possession. He is their best player by a wide margin. He can create a td or two just by being that much better than the guy covering him and out-jumping and out-muscling him for the ball. The defense isn't much to write home about for Sterling.
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Demaryius Thomas from Georgia Tech caught 46 balls for over 1,150 yards and 8 td's as a junior a couple of years ago in this same exact offense. Gibson has the exact same body and ability to go get the ball. You can open up the field so much more by requiring double coverage on a guy like that at all times, or else you just burn them deep for td's about 4 times a game and they learn to double cover him real quick. If they had Nelson and Mixon from last year's team as pitch options then they would be in business. Of course they had them last year along with McWhirter, albeit in a different offense, and it looked bad last year too. I don't know what to say about it really. A lot of high school football boils down to which team understands and executes what they are doing. Look at Dayton, they look like they have oodles more talent than Lee did last year, but really they were probably equally talented. Dayton just looks like a well-oiled machine, and Lee looks like a chicken with their head cut off when they run into any adversity. Lee has not had success, so they don't trust the system. Dayton trusts the system because they have been running it since they were 5 years old and they know from experience that it works. I like what Lee has a chance of doing this year. The defense was extremely surprising to me. Never would have thought they would have been making any tackles in the backfield, much less the multiple tfl's they did make. It just scares me to think about how bad Lee will be coming up here soon. Lee used to get all those Cedar Bayou guys, but not with the introduction of GCM I guess. Now we are stuck with HM and BJS guys and that's usually not that strong. I used to hate the idea of rooting for Sterling. I hate the Cowboys, Aggies and Sterling equally. I am starting to warm up to rooting for all Baytown teams though.
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Angleton 42 Friendswood 28
gary-us-bonds replied to Wildcat979's topic in SETXsports Archived Threads
Good to see that it wasn't just Lee that had trouble with that Angleton offense. It comes at you from all angles. -
I guess I am just wondering in general where the hell all of the talent went in Baytown lol Lee has some nice skill position players and a lineman or two. I can remember when Olin got here. There was a year there in the mid 90's when we had a cornerback that didn't even start get a college scholarship somewhere. Eleven starters on this year's defense, maybe one of them would have started back then. Can't blame it on Sterling taking all the talent. Looks like you can't blame it on GCM either the way they have looked last year and this. All the talent moved I guess.
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From what I saw from CB last year, if they move a couple of those freshmen up they would probably be 2 of the 5 best athletes on the team. I don't understand the wasting of Gibson on defense. How much is he really going to help them out over there? One guy can only do so much. I could see if he were a 4.3 guy and you wanted him to play centerfield and keep everything contained, but that's not really his thing. Stick him on offense, throw it to him 10-12 times a game. That would open things up for the run. I just don't see anyone in the backfield, other than McWhirter, that can do anything with the ball in their hands. Where are the Gary Allens and the Eric Polks at. Seems like there should be someone over there that can tote the rock. I remember when Clear Lake really had the offense cooking, they had Geno Blow at fullback and Jones at running back with Osmond at qb. McWhirter could do a nice impression of Osmond if he had been brought up in the system and had the whole intricacies of the fakes and the timing down, which he does not. He is just sorta winging it out there right now. The timing needs to be perfect for the offense to work, and it is not. But to the point, there is no Geno Blow or Elrick Jones to hand and pitch to. Just have to be patient I guess. The kids coming up sound like they should be a good group. Josh Zellars does remind of Ell Roberson a little. I think he has the same type of running ability at the same stage. Roberson had an infinitely better qb coach teaching him.
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I liked McWhirter last year, and I like him even more this year. He's the kinda guy that would be all-district at Dayton. Don't have enough structure around him for him to reach his potential at Sterling. I hear Sterling has a great freshman class coming, but I just wonder where the heck are the athletes for Sterling? They just don't have much outside of the obvious Gibson. Lee will have an excellent offense i they can get in sync and cut down the mistakes. Huge if for a Lee Gander team these days. I think they have too many athletes on offense honestly. The Gomez kid, I think that's his name, never really gets the ball. Between Landry, Zellars, Richardson and Johnson, they have enough athletes to move the ball down the field on offense. I would switch the other kid over to outside linebacker maybe and move Kion inside. He would be of much more use on that side with his athleticism than he is being the 5th or 6th option on offense. How did Lee score in the second half? I had too far of a drive to get home, plus I am driving to Chicago tomorrow or the day after, so I need my rest.