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Comparing only to last year’s scrimmage with HF, Nederland looked much improved. Great? Certainly not. Improved? Yes. 
Is HF as good as last year? I have no clue.
 The passing game was much better considering that most of last year the quarterbacks were overthrowing open receivers, sometimes by 5 yards.
 There was some decent playing on the defensive line with quite a few gang tackles.
 I “think” in the controlled scrimmage with the first teams, HF had 2 touchdowns and Nederland had 1. On second team control HF had 1-0.
On 2 quarters of game scrimmage with no kickoffs, I believe it was 1-1.
Last year HF looked like world beaters in the same scrimmage. They played pretty even this evening in my opinion. 

Comparing only to last year’s scrimmage with HF, Nederland looked much improved. Great? Certainly not. Improved? Yes. 
Is HF as good as last year? I have no clue.
 The passing game was much better considering that most of last year the quarterbacks were overthrowing open receivers, sometimes by 5 yards.
 There was some decent playing on the defensive line with quite a few gang tackles.
 I “think” in the controlled scrimmage with the first teams, HF had 2 touchdowns and Nederland had 1. On second team control HF had 1-0.
On 2 quarters of game scrimmage with no kickoffs, I believe it was 1-1.
Last year HF looked like world beaters in the same scrimmage. They played pretty even this evening in my opinion. 

I predict that the practice will give both teams some positive signs and some negative things that need to be worked on. 

His writing is exemplary.
It probably wasn’t hard to draw his conclusions unfortunately. 
 There is something even more unfortunate however. It is that no matter how much sense his statement makes, it will fall into the laps of a smug group of individuals who have already shown that they don’t see him as an asset or an example of their district but rather a thorn in their side.   
If I read his statement correctly, when he was contesting the grade he was denied and filed a public records request and it showed there were over 5,500 internal emails about him. When I was in high school, I would be shocked to find that my name was mentioned over 5,000 times even if counting personal conversations out of my presence between friends and enemies combined.
 The guy hopefully has a bright future. If he does, some of those same school board members will be crowing about how good BISD is and he is an example. When that potential Wikipedia article mentions that he graduated from Westbrook at BISD, the same group that did him wrong, will be high-fiving and patting each other on the back for the recognition of his success. 

 

Yeah, I was thinking 5-15 and maybe other issues.. you can’t sell sno-cones and coach!
If 16 - 5 with a playoff appearance? Can you please schedule to sell your cones between classes and on weekends?

Watch the video in the article about Kamala Harris and her outright lies about the curriculum on slavery.
 The ol’ straw man again shows up.

His writing is exemplary.
It probably wasn’t hard to draw his conclusions unfortunately. 
 There is something even more unfortunate however. It is that no matter how much sense his statement makes, it will fall into the laps of a smug group of individuals who have already shown that they don’t see him as an asset or an example of their district but rather a thorn in their side.   
If I read his statement correctly, when he was contesting the grade he was denied and filed a public records request and it showed there were over 5,500 internal emails about him. When I was in high school, I would be shocked to find that my name was mentioned over 5,000 times even if counting personal conversations out of my presence between friends and enemies combined.
 The guy hopefully has a bright future. If he does, some of those same school board members will be crowing about how good BISD is and he is an example. When that potential Wikipedia article mentions that he graduated from Westbrook at BISD, the same group that did him wrong, will be high-fiving and patting each other on the back for the recognition of his success. 

 

That is called getting caught with the smoking gun. For those that might not want to watch the video let me paraphrase….
 
John Kerry: All these false claims that I fly in a  private jet and the claimed hypocrisy by me. I have never owned a private jet!!
Follow up question: Who owned it?
Kerry: I have never owned a private jet!!… Well, but my wife has and yes I flew in it. But it wasn’t in my name!!
Hahaha…. 🤣
 

That is called getting caught with the smoking gun. For those that might not want to watch the video let me paraphrase….
 
John Kerry: All these false claims that I fly in a  private jet and the claimed hypocrisy by me. I have never owned a private jet!!
Follow up question: Who owned it?
Kerry: I have never owned a private jet!!… Well, but my wife has and yes I flew in it. But it wasn’t in my name!!
Hahaha…. 🤣
 

That is called getting caught with the smoking gun. For those that might not want to watch the video let me paraphrase….
 
John Kerry: All these false claims that I fly in a  private jet and the claimed hypocrisy by me. I have never owned a private jet!!
Follow up question: Who owned it?
Kerry: I have never owned a private jet!!… Well, but my wife has and yes I flew in it. But it wasn’t in my name!!
Hahaha…. 🤣
 

If anyone doesn’t know, Dershowitz is a fairly hardcore Democrat. A Harvard law professor, he supported Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama. He is in most accounts, a well respected attorney.
 This is his take on the indictment after reading it.
 The prosecutor lied on the indictment by omission and could be indicted… but won’t be. Part of the indictment was a statement by Trump which clearly puts his comment in the protection of the First Amendment and free speech. So the prosecutor who signed the affidavit under oath, altered Trump’s statement to make it look different. The prosecutor in the indictment left out where Trump said for the people to protest “peacefully and patriotically” but the prosecutor altered the statement by omitting those key words.
The video is about 30 minutes long but watch as least the first 3.5-4 minutes.
 
 
 

If anyone doesn’t know, Dershowitz is a fairly hardcore Democrat. A Harvard law professor, he supported Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama. He is in most accounts, a well respected attorney.
 This is his take on the indictment after reading it.
 The prosecutor lied on the indictment by omission and could be indicted… but won’t be. Part of the indictment was a statement by Trump which clearly puts his comment in the protection of the First Amendment and free speech. So the prosecutor who signed the affidavit under oath, altered Trump’s statement to make it look different. The prosecutor in the indictment left out where Trump said for the people to protest “peacefully and patriotically” but the prosecutor altered the statement by omitting those key words.
The video is about 30 minutes long but watch as least the first 3.5-4 minutes.
 
 
 

If anyone doesn’t know, Dershowitz is a fairly hardcore Democrat. A Harvard law professor, he supported Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama. He is in most accounts, a well respected attorney.
 This is his take on the indictment after reading it.
 The prosecutor lied on the indictment by omission and could be indicted… but won’t be. Part of the indictment was a statement by Trump which clearly puts his comment in the protection of the First Amendment and free speech. So the prosecutor who signed the affidavit under oath, altered Trump’s statement to make it look different. The prosecutor in the indictment left out where Trump said for the people to protest “peacefully and patriotically” but the prosecutor altered the statement by omitting those key words.
The video is about 30 minutes long but watch as least the first 3.5-4 minutes.
 
 
 

Bob was at the top of his chosen profession. To a lot of extent, he is from a passing era in sports writing. Few sportswriters and editors have had the excellent longevity and following of Bob West. How many people work for a single newspaper for almost 5 decades?
He called ‘em like he saw ‘em. A few times I definitely would not agree on his perspective on an issue or player but the proof of his skill was that I always came back to read what he had to say on his next article. 
He definitely has left a legacy of events that he has been involved with from roasts, to celebrity golf events, to contests and I believe that he was instrumental in creating and bringing the Bum Phillips Trophy to Mid-County Madness which I think was thought up by members of his staff.
 I had spoken to West on a couple of occasions, mostly from working security at events. I have known his wife Genie for probably about 40 years from her work as a nurse at St. Mary Hospital and me being a police officer.
 The likes of Bob West don’t come along often in a lifetime.
Condolences to his family and friends. 

If that’s you criteria, Nederland would be the 6th largest city in Wyoming. 😂

Should make a class on penal code mandatory in high school.
as well as home ec and money/math(budgeting)

I agree with that
myself included🤷‍♂️
 And I have the texas penal code book. (2014..I think)
I started reading it back then , but gave up and it sat in the back window of my work car for years. Now that I’m thinking about it I don’t know what happen to it.

Yep. 

Assuming it was justified, making no judgment since I have no clue what actually happened…..
Hopefully it won’t cost anything or won’t cost much. The police department might turn the completed investigation over to the DA and a No Bill will follow from the grand jury. Case closed.
To show how this might play out and how important the facts or what can be proven are….
 There are several ways this could have taken place. I am going to give couple of situations and my conclusion about this case… which might have nothing to do with what actually happened. This is also why speculation might be fun and interesting in a forum but the outcome might be completely different from what people believe it should be on either side.
Remembering that deadly force to prevent the theft of property can only be used if the property was taken in a Robber/Aggravated Robbery, Burglary or a theft during the nighttime. Then toss in the other requirements of a reasonable belief by the shooter that the property would not likely be recovered, etc.
These will all assume that deadly force was used. It also might be looked upon as a warning on how close situations are where one might be justified and the other might send you to prison for life. 
1. A guy sees someone stealing his car and as the person drives away. It is just a theft (called Unauthorized Use of Vehicle).  Unjustified.
2. A guy I see someone stealing his car and runs to stop him. The car thief then tells the owner, if you try to stop me, I’m gonna beat you like a red-headed step child. He then tries to drive away. The threat of injury made the Theft into Robbery. Justified. 
3. I guy enters a car trying to steal it. He sees the owner coming out and runs to get away and leaves the car but grabs a cell phone off the seat. It is only two misdemeanors, Burglary of Vehicle and Theft. Unjustified. 
4. The exact same scenario as number 3 but as the thief turns to run away with a cell phone, he runs into a 70 year old woman, knocking her down and causing a small scratch on her elbow. Recklessly running into the woman while getting away with property and causing injury to a person or 65 years of age or older, it became Aggravated Robbery (up to 99 years in prison). Probably Justified. 
 5. The same scenario as number 4 however after taking a couple of steps, the thief throws down the cell phone where the owner can clearly see it. He then runs into the 70 year old woman and causes the minor injury. Once the thief, abandon the property, it is no longer a Robbery or Aggravated Robbery (by age) since he is no longer trying to maintain control over the property when he made the threat or caused the injury. He has committed the two misdemeanors as previously mentioned and the additional crime of Injury to an Elderly Individual (a felony) but those are not among the only four crimes justifying deadly force for property. Unjustified.
Anyone see how close one situation is to the other? In one he dropped the cell phone and the other he kept it. In one he did not run into anyone recklessly and then the other he did. In one he drove away with the car but in another, he made a threat to kick a guy’s butt before driving away.
On the one hand, it is fairly easy to say, I have no sympathy for a thief. I have sympathy for his family because they did not cause it.
On the other hand, in an emotional situation of you being the victim of a crime, shooting might be justified yet a small change in the situation/facts might cause you years in prison and your family left wondering what to do.

Even if justified, shooting someone will be the worst experience of your life...the waiting to be cleared, the expense if you have to defend yourself.....the fact you ended a life.......
Hell of a responsibility carrying a weapon. 

And it certainly is not a dumb question. The Facebook lawyers have about 12 different answers though. 🤪
Yes… Witnesses, statements, a statement by the person accused, video or photographs, fingerprints or anything else will determine the outcome.
Just for a point of law and I would not want to be there, you do not have to prove self-defense. If you make a claim of self-defense and bring up any evidence allowed into court to support that claim, the state (DA) then has the burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it was not self-defense.
It is called a defense to prosecution. 

There are so many what if questions. A single sentence can change a justified shooting into Murder or vice versa. 
 The law is specific in what crimes justify deadly force in order to recover property if the suspect is actually fleeing with the property.
Those crimes are Burglary (breaking into a residence or building), Robbery, Aggravated Robbery and Theft if the theft occurs in the nighttime. Those four crimes alone, justify deadly force to stop a person from getting away with property. It is not to be confused with other crimes where deadly force could be used to stop the crime from being committed such as Arson or Sexual Assault.
I am talking just running or driving away with the property. For example, if somebody steals your kid’s bicycle from the front yard in the daylight and there are no other facts (like he threatened to kill you), can you lawfully use deadly force to get the bicycle back? In my opinion and the way I read the law, absolutely not. That would likely be Murder. 
So while we are playing what if, what if you chase him and as you get close to him and he still has the bicycle, he pulls a pocket knife out and threatens to kill you? At that point the misdemeanor Theft during the daylight, just became an Aggravated Robbery. Aggravated Robbery is one of the four specific crimes that possibly justify the use of deadly force to get property back….. IF… IF, you reasonably believed that the property could not reasonably be recovered by other means  OR…. an attempt to get the property back would expose you to an unreasonable risk of serious injury or death.
That is the problem with making blanket statements but if you want to get on Facebook, get ready for the blanket statements.
So not legal advice but generally what the law appears to say to me about using deadly force only to protect property after doing it for 38 years…
IF a person is committing one of the four specifically mentioned crimes AND IF the person is escaping with property AND IF a person reasonably appears that he would get away without recovering the property OR IF attempting to recover, the property, would expose you to serious injury or death….
 Then it is likely justified. All of the AND and AND IF situations must be covered. They are not mutually exclusive.
1. 4 crimes and,   
2. escaping with property and,   
3. not reasonably likely to recover the property by other means or,   
    The recovery would expose you to serious injury or death.
Clear as mud? 
We could probably sit here and think up of 100 different situation.

I don’t think those are even towns or cities as Texas calls them..  

Bob was at the top of his chosen profession. To a lot of extent, he is from a passing era in sports writing. Few sportswriters and editors have had the excellent longevity and following of Bob West. How many people work for a single newspaper for almost 5 decades?
He called ‘em like he saw ‘em. A few times I definitely would not agree on his perspective on an issue or player but the proof of his skill was that I always came back to read what he had to say on his next article. 
He definitely has left a legacy of events that he has been involved with from roasts, to celebrity golf events, to contests and I believe that he was instrumental in creating and bringing the Bum Phillips Trophy to Mid-County Madness which I think was thought up by members of his staff.
 I had spoken to West on a couple of occasions, mostly from working security at events. I have known his wife Genie for probably about 40 years from her work as a nurse at St. Mary Hospital and me being a police officer.
 The likes of Bob West don’t come along often in a lifetime.
Condolences to his family and friends. 

There are so many what if questions. A single sentence can change a justified shooting into Murder or vice versa. 
 The law is specific in what crimes justify deadly force in order to recover property if the suspect is actually fleeing with the property.
Those crimes are Burglary (breaking into a residence or building), Robbery, Aggravated Robbery and Theft if the theft occurs in the nighttime. Those four crimes alone, justify deadly force to stop a person from getting away with property. It is not to be confused with other crimes where deadly force could be used to stop the crime from being committed such as Arson or Sexual Assault.
I am talking just running or driving away with the property. For example, if somebody steals your kid’s bicycle from the front yard in the daylight and there are no other facts (like he threatened to kill you), can you lawfully use deadly force to get the bicycle back? In my opinion and the way I read the law, absolutely not. That would likely be Murder. 
So while we are playing what if, what if you chase him and as you get close to him and he still has the bicycle, he pulls a pocket knife out and threatens to kill you? At that point the misdemeanor Theft during the daylight, just became an Aggravated Robbery. Aggravated Robbery is one of the four specific crimes that possibly justify the use of deadly force to get property back….. IF… IF, you reasonably believed that the property could not reasonably be recovered by other means  OR…. an attempt to get the property back would expose you to an unreasonable risk of serious injury or death.
That is the problem with making blanket statements but if you want to get on Facebook, get ready for the blanket statements.
So not legal advice but generally what the law appears to say to me about using deadly force only to protect property after doing it for 38 years…
IF a person is committing one of the four specifically mentioned crimes AND IF the person is escaping with property AND IF a person reasonably appears that he would get away without recovering the property OR IF attempting to recover, the property, would expose you to serious injury or death….
 Then it is likely justified. All of the AND and AND IF situations must be covered. They are not mutually exclusive.
1. 4 crimes and,   
2. escaping with property and,   
3. not reasonably likely to recover the property by other means or,   
    The recovery would expose you to serious injury or death.
Clear as mud? 
We could probably sit here and think up of 100 different situation.

As we can imagine, the 17-year-old being shot in Beaumont has caused quite a stir on the Facebook forums. As the usual routine, there are complete misstatements of the law on both sides of the equation.
This kind of goes into the thread I started about laws but were there any justifications to use deadly force?
Of course, the problem is, we really don’t know what happened. For my two cents, it could be completely justified or it could be completely unjustified and murder.
I wish I had the facts of the case….