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53 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Who says they gonna get a good coach?  They haven’t had a very good history of it.  That’s why you keep trying to find one.  

If Warren gets a good coach, they should be able to beat Newton. As you indicated multiple times, winning has little to do with talent and primarily comes down to coaching. Speed, coordination and strength meaning very little. I was recently at an event and noticed how the Warren kids looked exactly like the Newton kids and that there is no reason for Warren to not compete with Newton. 

Still cant figure out why college coaches only recruit athletically dominant players? Seems like they could win with any group of players with good coaching. 

10 hours ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

Yes. To be honest Center has had a surprising # of seasons that should have lasted alot longer than they did. 

Center best player moved to San Augustine 

6 hours ago, Reagan said:

1000%, nah.  That's your opinion.  You can have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts. 

Again, failing coaches need to "look at the man in the mirror" -- not in the weight room!   I know it's hard for people to blame themselves.  I've seen it everywhere.  It's easier to blame someone else -- like the kids!  Because ego is a son-of-a-gun!

Looking forward to Warren beating Newton this year when they get a good coach. 

44 minutes ago, Reagan said:

I don't blame you for feeling the way you do.  There are very few professions were people blames themselves for their failures.  Always looking for some one else to blame.  But as Bill Parcels once said, looking for someone to blame?  "Look at the man in the mirror."  I'd add along with that -- but do not look at the kids in the weight room.   Blaming the kids is to easy.  

As for as Jasper, you may be right about no success.  That's if they don't hire a good coach.  My advise -- stay away from home cooking.  Didn't work out to good for them this past time.  

Thanks for the validation. I have been fortunate to see kids develop from Jr High through High school for multiple decades. Not sure about the number of kids but I believe it to be well into thousands. There is guaranteed 1000% proven fact that winning is about "Jimmies and Joes, not Xs and Os". In Jasper's case, I have actually "looked at them in the weightroom" and based upon that observation I am certain they will look like Jasper again after one more season, and it will not matter who they have for a coach. Although, everyone will all of a sudden proclaim the greatness of the new coach (similar to how they proclaimed Crumedy a few years ago, after Barbay was run out of town for bad coaching).

I can even think of another 4AD2 program in SETX where everyone wanted to fire the coach for a few years and they even thought that "little league coaches" knew more. After the coach that everyone wanted to fire, got a good group of talent in the upper classes they went to the State Championship game and the whole community then thought the coach had an epiphany and learned how to coach. 

2 hours ago, Setx fan said:

I figured it was a strong possibility he'd decommit from the moment I heard he committed. Its smart to keep your options open in most cases. I expect he'll probably pick up a significant amount of offers after some summer visits and a really good senior season. 

Especially since he will be doing it without WRs this coming year. 

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

Blaming the kids again I see!  Fascinating!  

Yep, they are the ones on the field. Cant "make bricks with no straw". Been watching these cycles at various programs for a few decades. 

I am going to go ahead and make a prediction for you to come back and check later: The next coach will struggle this coming year and will turn the tide back to being "Jasper" when the current sophomores become SRs. 

1 hour ago, HarryDoyle said:

Do they have a lot returning? The sub varsities were not great from what I hear.

Sub varsity was not good because the top players were on Varsity taking their lumps. 

15 minutes ago, bobbymcgee said:

What’s the biggest “head ache” ? 

The biggest “headache” is “poor talent” in the current upper classes. 

6 hours ago, pine curtain said:

Doesn't sound like the new coach is having a warm welcome in Hemphill.......

How so? Little league coaches not on board? 

7 hours ago, purpleeagle said:

Newton

Wk 1.  WO-S     
Wk2    Franklin (neutral site)   
Wk 3   Open— may be filled later   
Wk4    Deridder  La. there   
Wk 5   Liberty Eylou  TBD   
Wk 6   Bye   
Wk 7    Hardin  There      
Wk 8    New  Waverly      
Wk 9.   Warren.  
Wk10.   Kountze  There. 
Wk 11.   Woodville 
 

 

 

 

No one can accuse Newton of scheduling "light".

16 minutes ago, TrojanWarrior08 said:

Probably going to go 2-2 or 1-3 in non-district.

Only chance is Kountze. Might be the only win of the season. Possibly Tarkington. 

Don’t be surprised if WOS beats Carthage in wk 5

2 hours ago, bullets13 said:

depends on the qb, as others have stated. they have a couple of early games that they could lose if he struggles to find his rhythm at the varsity level. WOS will be a favorite against them, and if HF can find some linemen they're going to have the skill players to give them a tough game as well. 

18 JR starters back for Shepherd.

4 hours ago, kirkwood29 said:

what will hardin look like, when you refer to coming back to the pack?  sounds like they'll have a tough time replacing the two runninig backs lost to graduation, is this accurate? 

There is no replacing Trevor Jones. I expect Hardin will finish a distant 3rd behind WV and Newton. Not going to be any kind of playoff threat. 

9 hours ago, TC2020 said:

No doubt the Ag program is top notch at Warren. Most of these families are NOT farmers. Many in the lumber industry. Most I know commute 45 minutes to work in Beaumont. Just because you can’t see the homes from the highway - doesn’t mean it’s not there. There are neighborhoods buried in the Thicket. Most though, you wouldn’t want to go to…

I think there are deep rooted issues here. Mainly that the community doesn’t really want to be good in football. They have made excuses for so long, I think they tune out voices that try to change the culture there because it would challenge comfort and the status quo. At least that is what I’ve seen on this side of Ivanhoe. 

Brilliant insight, they "dont want to be good in football". It is priority for the community that the football team is bad. Always enjoy the great comments.

2 hours ago, purpleeagle said:

Quality of education is what put his outstanding grandfather in the position he is in now.

Million dollar NIL was not around when his grandfather was in school. 

2 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

But those other 4 are not good.

CC is pretty decent. Keep in mind that Hardin is coming back to the pack this year. 

3 hours ago, Setx fan said:

OK I misunderstood what you were saying. Coaches can't seem to get the best out of all the players though. Lot of guys didn't play up to their potential. Partially because some weren't being put on the field. Defense was just horrible the majority of the year. Offense was pretty good as expected but it was questionable at times also. Critical play near the goal line against Edgewood and we hand it up the middle to a hundred pound sophomore (very talented but still young) instead of giving it to our senior 230 pound returning offensive player of the year who scored the game winning TD in the state semi finals the year before. That play ended up being ruled a fumble when that probably could have been avoided. I was very confused about that 

Only explanation is WV coaches just wanted to lose. They clearly didn’t know the players. Despite seeing how they practiced, behaved in the locker room or at school.
 

The people who really know are the folks who saw none of that but coached them in little league or sat in the stands.

Shepherd:

Huffman

Tarkington

Coldspring

Madisonville

Katy Harmony 

1 hour ago, TC2020 said:

Yes and no. At the small school level, the really good Freshmen and Sophomores play on Varsity. Stark difference than larger schools. 

Not at WV. They had a QB with D1 offers playing JV. 

11 hours ago, Eagles12 said:

Dougald McDougald retired. His son had no head coaching experience to my knowledge. Really can’t compare his sons resume to Cope’s

Every HC was a coordinator before they were a HC. However, I dont recall comparing his resume with anyone.  

2 hours ago, Eagles12 said:

I’m an Onalaska guy at heart ( give us football), but as a New Caney ISD hire I like them conducting searches and bringing in guys with bigger resumes. 

McDougald had a pretty good resume. Dont know much about the guy they ended up hiring. 

1 minute ago, TC2020 said:

I think I remember reading the following in the paper for Accountability Ratings -

Spurger ISD B-

Warren ISD B-

Colmesniel ISD B-

Woodville ISD C+
 

All are pretty equal. 

Is this the most current rating? I thought WV was higher than that. Still not much difference. 

42 minutes ago, Setx fan said:

I'm pretty sure Woodville is above average academically so this analogy doesn't fit. 

I think Woodville actually rates higher than Warren in terms of academics.

10 minutes ago, myrecordwashorrible said:

If the young man is a good student, Vanderbilt is the place to go.  Not a fan of the political leanings of the institution, but a Vandrrbilt degree i  a quality field can set him up really well. 

NIL is probably a bigger factor than quality of the education.