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21 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

What were the charges?

Aggravated Assault with Deadly Weapon 

23 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I actually see 4 members that maybe are implying some kind of intent.

13 different members (not counting me) commented on this thread. 

I think for the most part folks know there was no intent. Pure reckless behavior which in some cases bring criminal charges.

Kid was being stupid but like I said, that may not absolve him from some kind of fault and maybe a criminal charge.

There has been many situations that have criminal negligence. 

I don't think any charges will be filed.

Prayers for all that are involved.

Pretty sure that charges are already filed and included $50k bond.

31 minutes ago, Boyz N Da Hood said:

6 members speaking more on "death row" and the gun than they have the victim

Mark me down as someone who is stating very clearly that they were mimicking the imagery of what is portrayed by artists on Death Row Records. You have also specifically stated that the kids were mimicking the imagery by shooting a “video with guns”. Like videos by artists on “Death Row Records”. 
 

NOT A SINGLE PERSON said anything about the shooting being INTENTIONAL.  
 

22 hours ago, PNG4LIFE91 said:

SLC is a great opportunity no doubt, but I think Jeff Joseph knows he has the opportunity to create his OWN legacy at PNG, while SLC will always be associated with Dodge!!  Not to mention, the fact he’s building a championship program from the ground up with HOMEGROWN athletes, especially in 5A or 6A, is just another thing that sets him apart and will define his legacy because it’s VERY difficult to do these days!  

You definitely "hope/wish" he is trying to build his "OWN" legacy at PNG. If he goes to SLC and wins big his "legacy" will take care of itself. 

4 hours ago, Boyz N Da Hood said:

Yeah cool story, glad you agree this was a accident... 👍🏾

I'll leave the spotlight on victim, where it should be.. not "death row" and other tags that outsiders don't agree with or like.. certain the community doesn't care about anything negative from ppl outside.... 

Understood. Putting the "spotlight" on the offender raises uncomfortable questions. What do you suppose the shooter was actually "doing" when the gun went off? 

12 hours ago, Boyz N Da Hood said:

Read on another site... shooting a video with obvious loaded gun (stupid and immature to say the least) gun went off, shot through a wall and hit young man in the neck. No slap on the wrist should be given, some of these comments thinking it was intentional or "death row" played a factor are ignorant as can be!! If this was anywhere else a different tune would be played.. there's my 2 cents

Yeah, anywhere else where a player shoots another player it would be a “different tune”.
 

FYI, If it were most places, kids would not be shooting each other. 

1 hour ago, purpleeagle said:

One of three states that would make an incident a crime. Deliberately, knowingly and recklessly.Appears to be recklessly.

 

 

A lot more than three states make shooting people a crime. $50k bond, there might be more to how much of an “incident” this situation is. Particularly if alcohol is involved.

11 minutes ago, Darth Texas said:

“The affidavit does not clarify why Mayfield was holding a gun or who it belonged to.” (From the article linked above). 
 

You need to revisit your definition of “settled” and “indisputable.” 

I guess we will need to wait for more information to make and judgement one way or another. 

2 hours ago, Darth Texas said:

The “death row” moniker had absolutely nothing to do with what happened here. This was dumb kids being irresponsible with guns, and certainly in the orbit of even dumber and more irresponsible adults. What the defense calls itself is irrelevant to this tragedy.  

You have no idea if the “Death Row moniker” had anything to do with it. One thing for certain, it is a settled and indisputable fact that the kids were doing and portraying the absolute exact same thing that were done by Death Row artists in their videos. 
 

Still quite a bit of information to be found out on the incident. 

1 hour ago, Matthew328 said:

Agree that comes with the territory when you win....dont think the scrutiny will impact how SOC as a football program conducts business inside their 4 walls

No doubt. Increased scrutiny when players are shooting each other as well. A lot of programs out there where players never shoot each other. 

8 hours ago, Matthew328 said:

Death Row was a rap record label in the 90s...and yes their rap videos had guns in them (geez I sound like an old man lol)...but I dont think the nickname of the defense had anything to do with these kids making a poor choice...the defense could have been named Sunshine and Daffodils and they probably would have done this...kids do dumb things all the time......I had a cousin who got drunk w/his friends in HS (parents left them home for the weekend..not smart) and they decided to play russian roulette...luckily one of the kids who wasn't drunk saw what they were doing and put a stop to it

The defense could have definitely been named "Sunshine and Daffodils" but instead they were named "Death Row". Coincidentally, there was an incident where the kids happened to be portraying the specific imagery associated with "Death Row" and one of the players got shot and one got arrested (also imagery associated with Death Row). 

When drastic and violent events happen with your program, you can expect newfound scrutiny. Its all fun and game till someone gets shot.

4 minutes ago, Bansheefan said:

And it's not just carthage look what the only team from this area kilgore did to teams from that area starters didn't give up a single point  and blew everyone out it's not that way for all classifications but 4a the south is just way behind the rest of state most years 

The SETX 4AD1 district contains 3 schools who "opt up" specifically to avoid the 4AD2 schools in SETX. 9-4AD2 is one of the tougher districts in the state. I suspect that WOS has a better historical pedigree than any school you have named other than Carthage (perhaps Gilmer).    

1 minute ago, Bansheefan said:

Obviously you can as long as you come from the south carthage could have beat them 60+ to nothing if they wanted to Pitt played us more competitive then that and they were a 4th place team

Every week is different. 

Just now, Bansheefan said:

And when I say wos is average I mean they were not elite in defense offense or special teams I could see being weak at 1 or 2 but when u see a state contender you expect them to be at least really good at 1 thing and I just didn't see it  I think van Gilmer athens sunnyvale Pitt and Sanger could have beat wos

Understood. I think LaVega, Cuero, Silsbee, Sealy, or Sinton could all beat any of those teams you mentioned. 

2 minutes ago, Bansheefan said:

No team had to be great thats my point wos was very average at best yet that was the best to come from the south 

WOS was well above "average". WOS would have lost to Carthage or PG. No other teams in Region 2 or anywhere else were better than WOS. You do not make it to the State Championship being "average". 

26 minutes ago, Matthew328 said:

Death Row is just a nickname for the defense like the Chain Gang was for WOS, etc.....they've been using that for years but no one noticed it until they started winning state..

This is a simple case of adults making a poor choice to rent an Air BNB for a bunch of HS kids...the kids decide to shoot a rap video and play with guns that were loaded.....its kids being dumb....leaving HS boys unsupervised in a house is a receipe for bad behavior and they are lucky someone wasn't killed....

I didnt "notice" until I read a headline about a SOC player shooting a teammate. What does "Death Row" have to do with? Anything to do with certain types of imagery? Like rap videos with guns? 

16 minutes ago, Bansheefan said:

From what i seen friday special is not needed we had tougher district games then state along with pretty much every roundof the playoffs i honestly dont feel the winner of that side would make it out the 2nd round and thats not playing carthage or pg

PG played Carthage close. Carthage ran through every other team. Not sure which school you think is great other than Carthage and PG. 

1 hour ago, Bansheefan said:

Well after this game was said and done 4ad2 region 1,3,4  have alot of catching up to do im not sure a single reginal representative would have made it out of 2nd round in region 2 for 4ad1 region 3 and 4 is equally as bad if it were not for the teams from north that should be region 2 by location then they would be embarrassing 

Everyone has "catching up to do" to Carthage. PG being the closest this year. No one else in Region 2 is anything special at the moment. 

1 hour ago, Bansheefan said:

Way they played friday may should rename them the powder puff defense 

Carthage is a great team, and the program is unprecedented in High school Football history.  PG is likely the 2nd best team in the state. WOS is "as good" or "better" than any other 4AD2 team in the state. 

1 hour ago, wo-s#1 said:

Losing pretty much the entire line will be tough to replace,a couple guys back is about all.

But you got the big guns back. Should be hard to handle. 

Great season WOS and great job of representing 9-4A D2. WOS likely to be even better next year. 

20 hours ago, Little Jerry said:

Edwards has been injured on/off all season and read where he was banged up coming into this game. Not needed much today. This could have been a lot worse. Like Newton, can't go to Arlington with a 1 dimensional offense 3A and up. Get away with it in 2A, but not 3A+. WOS played as good as they could. This was not going to be a close game. 

Im a betting rooster and I would bet Surratt leaves. Which college assistant job he takes? IDK. But 11 rings. Incredible. 

"1 dimensional offenses" work pretty good at the college level. 

1 hour ago, Kegger said:

I’ll tell you right now one guy that has been a huge part of Coach Miller’s success at Spring and Willis is Coach Fitzgerald OC/OL/AHC. Lots of wins and he knows Miller’s offense! He’d be a great hire

 

Pretty sure his son will be the new HC. That was the plan when he took the job. Unless something changed and the decided they want to go a different route. 

I have always heard that the original plan was for his son to take over after they got it started. I suspect that is the current plan (unless something changed). 

8 minutes ago, wo-s#1 said:

Not to these young men that’s been busting ass since then,that’s where the fire was lit and the dream of this week started 

It definitely is good for kids to have something to do but it is irrelevant for Varsity programs.