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20 hours ago, Bulldogs92 said:

The district put out a survey that was pretty detailed about what people want in a HC/AD along with strengths and weaknesses of the athletic program. It's nice that they're listening for once. Anyway, they're closing that survey on March 1st. I would say that they're very early in the process.

Always good to send out a survey to make people think they are a part of the process and then do whatever you were originally planning regardless.
 

If they want to “get it right”, they should consult the little league coaches in WV and WOS.

53 minutes ago, pine curtain said:

Looks like he will be able to build his own staff.

Going to be lots of openings in Hemphill.

That should help. Most ADs will not take job if they cant hire their own staff. 

17 minutes ago, jdog90 said:

I always thought that Barbay left because he saw the talent level that was coming... And I am a coach Barbay fan

He definitely knew what was in the pipeline. 

1 hour ago, Setx fan said:

Barbay was probably never in a district as tough as the one Crumedy had either. Most disappointing thing about Crumedy's stay was the loss to Shepherd. I think low team morale played into that a little. Maybe if he had scheduled a little lighter for preseason they go into that game feeling a little better about themselves and possibly pull off a win. I don't think the people at Jasper care much for barely making the playoffs though. They want to be serious state contenders and that's probably why he scheduled the teams he scheduled. 

Jasper lost to Shepherd because Shepherd had better players by a good margin. It would not have mattered who Jasper played in the pre district schedule. It is going to be worse next year because nearly every player on the roster is returning for Shepherd and Shepherd will have much more depth. 

2 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

We know why they made it that far with Crumedy just like we know why they missed the playoffs with Crumedy.

I don't think Barbay ever missed while at Jasper. Not 100% sure about it though.

Yep. Jimmies and Joes.

59 minutes ago, Reagan said:

DARRELL BARBAY
22 years; 160-85-0

He's a good coach.  Not an elite coach.  Wasn't able to get to the state title.  So, I guess he didn't have the "kids" either!  But he's 100% better than the home cooking hire that just left!  You have to admit, the last coach wasn't gonna bring you a state title.  Oh, wait -- if it wasn't for them darn lousy kids!

They could do worst and they could do better.  Just stay away from home cooking!  Barbay wasn't home cooking was he?

PS -- Stay tuned.   I have some interesting info coming!

 

Got it. Who made it farther in the playoffs? Barbay or the "home cooking guy"? 

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

Maybe Jasper can lure him back?!   🤷‍♂️

Why would they do that? Based upon your logic, he is not a good coach. They need a "good coach" if they want to beat WOS and Carthage this year. Just a coach away from State Championship. 

53 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Who says they gonna get a good coach?  They haven’t had a very good history of it.  That’s why you keep trying to find one.  

If Warren gets a good coach, they should be able to beat Newton. As you indicated multiple times, winning has little to do with talent and primarily comes down to coaching. Speed, coordination and strength meaning very little. I was recently at an event and noticed how the Warren kids looked exactly like the Newton kids and that there is no reason for Warren to not compete with Newton. 

Still cant figure out why college coaches only recruit athletically dominant players? Seems like they could win with any group of players with good coaching. 

10 hours ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

Yes. To be honest Center has had a surprising # of seasons that should have lasted alot longer than they did. 

Center best player moved to San Augustine 

6 hours ago, Reagan said:

1000%, nah.  That's your opinion.  You can have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts. 

Again, failing coaches need to "look at the man in the mirror" -- not in the weight room!   I know it's hard for people to blame themselves.  I've seen it everywhere.  It's easier to blame someone else -- like the kids!  Because ego is a son-of-a-gun!

Looking forward to Warren beating Newton this year when they get a good coach. 

44 minutes ago, Reagan said:

I don't blame you for feeling the way you do.  There are very few professions were people blames themselves for their failures.  Always looking for some one else to blame.  But as Bill Parcels once said, looking for someone to blame?  "Look at the man in the mirror."  I'd add along with that -- but do not look at the kids in the weight room.   Blaming the kids is to easy.  

As for as Jasper, you may be right about no success.  That's if they don't hire a good coach.  My advise -- stay away from home cooking.  Didn't work out to good for them this past time.  

Thanks for the validation. I have been fortunate to see kids develop from Jr High through High school for multiple decades. Not sure about the number of kids but I believe it to be well into thousands. There is guaranteed 1000% proven fact that winning is about "Jimmies and Joes, not Xs and Os". In Jasper's case, I have actually "looked at them in the weightroom" and based upon that observation I am certain they will look like Jasper again after one more season, and it will not matter who they have for a coach. Although, everyone will all of a sudden proclaim the greatness of the new coach (similar to how they proclaimed Crumedy a few years ago, after Barbay was run out of town for bad coaching).

I can even think of another 4AD2 program in SETX where everyone wanted to fire the coach for a few years and they even thought that "little league coaches" knew more. After the coach that everyone wanted to fire, got a good group of talent in the upper classes they went to the State Championship game and the whole community then thought the coach had an epiphany and learned how to coach. 

2 hours ago, Setx fan said:

I figured it was a strong possibility he'd decommit from the moment I heard he committed. Its smart to keep your options open in most cases. I expect he'll probably pick up a significant amount of offers after some summer visits and a really good senior season. 

Especially since he will be doing it without WRs this coming year. 

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

Blaming the kids again I see!  Fascinating!  

Yep, they are the ones on the field. Cant "make bricks with no straw". Been watching these cycles at various programs for a few decades. 

I am going to go ahead and make a prediction for you to come back and check later: The next coach will struggle this coming year and will turn the tide back to being "Jasper" when the current sophomores become SRs. 

1 hour ago, HarryDoyle said:

Do they have a lot returning? The sub varsities were not great from what I hear.

Sub varsity was not good because the top players were on Varsity taking their lumps. 

15 minutes ago, bobbymcgee said:

What’s the biggest “head ache” ? 

The biggest “headache” is “poor talent” in the current upper classes. 

6 hours ago, pine curtain said:

Doesn't sound like the new coach is having a warm welcome in Hemphill.......

How so? Little league coaches not on board? 

7 hours ago, purpleeagle said:

Newton

Wk 1.  WO-S     
Wk2    Franklin (neutral site)   
Wk 3   Open— may be filled later   
Wk4    Deridder  La. there   
Wk 5   Liberty Eylou  TBD   
Wk 6   Bye   
Wk 7    Hardin  There      
Wk 8    New  Waverly      
Wk 9.   Warren.  
Wk10.   Kountze  There. 
Wk 11.   Woodville 
 

 

 

 

No one can accuse Newton of scheduling "light".

16 minutes ago, TrojanWarrior08 said:

Probably going to go 2-2 or 1-3 in non-district.

Only chance is Kountze. Might be the only win of the season. Possibly Tarkington. 

Don’t be surprised if WOS beats Carthage in wk 5

2 hours ago, bullets13 said:

depends on the qb, as others have stated. they have a couple of early games that they could lose if he struggles to find his rhythm at the varsity level. WOS will be a favorite against them, and if HF can find some linemen they're going to have the skill players to give them a tough game as well. 

18 JR starters back for Shepherd.

4 hours ago, kirkwood29 said:

what will hardin look like, when you refer to coming back to the pack?  sounds like they'll have a tough time replacing the two runninig backs lost to graduation, is this accurate? 

There is no replacing Trevor Jones. I expect Hardin will finish a distant 3rd behind WV and Newton. Not going to be any kind of playoff threat. 

9 hours ago, TC2020 said:

No doubt the Ag program is top notch at Warren. Most of these families are NOT farmers. Many in the lumber industry. Most I know commute 45 minutes to work in Beaumont. Just because you can’t see the homes from the highway - doesn’t mean it’s not there. There are neighborhoods buried in the Thicket. Most though, you wouldn’t want to go to…

I think there are deep rooted issues here. Mainly that the community doesn’t really want to be good in football. They have made excuses for so long, I think they tune out voices that try to change the culture there because it would challenge comfort and the status quo. At least that is what I’ve seen on this side of Ivanhoe. 

Brilliant insight, they "dont want to be good in football". It is priority for the community that the football team is bad. Always enjoy the great comments.

2 hours ago, purpleeagle said:

Quality of education is what put his outstanding grandfather in the position he is in now.

Million dollar NIL was not around when his grandfather was in school. 

2 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

But those other 4 are not good.

CC is pretty decent. Keep in mind that Hardin is coming back to the pack this year. 

3 hours ago, Setx fan said:

OK I misunderstood what you were saying. Coaches can't seem to get the best out of all the players though. Lot of guys didn't play up to their potential. Partially because some weren't being put on the field. Defense was just horrible the majority of the year. Offense was pretty good as expected but it was questionable at times also. Critical play near the goal line against Edgewood and we hand it up the middle to a hundred pound sophomore (very talented but still young) instead of giving it to our senior 230 pound returning offensive player of the year who scored the game winning TD in the state semi finals the year before. That play ended up being ruled a fumble when that probably could have been avoided. I was very confused about that 

Only explanation is WV coaches just wanted to lose. They clearly didn’t know the players. Despite seeing how they practiced, behaved in the locker room or at school.
 

The people who really know are the folks who saw none of that but coached them in little league or sat in the stands.