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2 hours ago, Reagan said:

Talk about a silly statement.  You don't know that.  If he wasn't a championship coach then that statement would actually have validity.  So, I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.

Let’s use your logic: Huntington has never had a .500 or better season with every coach they have ever had. What in Scott Suratts background makes you think he could have similar results at Huntington? Has Suratt ever been a HC at a school that was not a perennial winner? or an all time losing school? With no budget?
 

See how that works?

48 minutes ago, Reagan said:

His record as a head coach would not dictate this statement.  Carthage: No State Titles before Surratt -- 11 Championships after he arrived.  So, I'm gonna say you have the intelligence to not say that the right kids only started to show up when he did.  So, in my opinion -- it's all on him!  In the 82 years prior to Surratt, they never had the athletes to win a State Title?  Not once?!  I just don't think it's a coincidence that Surratt was the one able to do it.  And if he went anywhere else he could do the same thing.  

 

Carthage was competitive long before Suratt arrived and he has done a great job of transforming a perennial winner to a perennial state champion. He also benefitted from the watering down of the classifications. Huntington has never had a single winning season in school history. There is not a single chance in hell that he would do the same at Huntington. 

**I suspect you are being silly at this point. I dont believe that you believe what you are saying. 

15 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Maybe not right at first.  But what in his past history of being a head coach would make you think he couldn't do it within 7 years?  Personally, i think it would be sooner.  But that's my opinion.  

He would have an overwhelming losing record. 

52 minutes ago, 2wedge said:

Call me old school, but I like it. If he can use those for a year or two to build culture in Jasper to mimic culture at WOS, he could do real well. We know Jasper produces athletes, if the formula is right, and those athletes come out for football, it may be fun to see. Either way, somebody has to let me know when tickets go on sale for that Jasper/WOS matchup this year. I'm going to be making that drive. 

 

Will be a good one for WOS. Game will not be competitive. WOS will be able to name their score. 

35 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Fascinating thought:  They are good -- but...

Let me ask you another easy one:  You don't think Surratt at Carthage could win anywhere else?  

He would not win at "Huntington" or "Tarkington". 

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

A famous coach once said:  Your record as a coach will tell you who you are as a coach.  So, is it always the coach (usually) and always the player's fault (usually not).  But I'd say over 90% is coaching.  It's hard to argue that through 27 years, Vidor has had 2 coaches with losing records.  Again, never had the athletes?!  But, you are right -- nothing is 100%!  Thank you for your opinion!

There is an unlimited number of examples with coaches "winning with good players, losing with bad players". Is Bill Belichick a good coach? He seems to be struggling at NC and ultimately flamed out in NE after he lost certain players. 

There is another saying that 1000+ famous coaches have made as well (since you like quotes): "It is about Jimmies and Joes, not Xs and Os".   

15 hours ago, Reagan said:

The problem with Vidor is they let a losing coach force the hire of another losing coach.   I believe they went 2-8 last year.  His record at Vidor is 13-19.  12 years as a head coach, his overall record is 58-70 for win percentage of 45%.  Point is, if nothing changes at Vidor -- then nothing will change!

Vidor coaching staff is one of the best. Multiple high-quality coaches. Coaching has not been the issue at Vidor. 

26 minutes ago, purpleeagle said:

This is about Hardin. I am out of here.

Good deal. Thank you for self-correcting. 

6 hours ago, purpleeagle said:

Yes. I forgot all D1 recruits at Baylor are millionaires.  How stupid of me

QBs are, you might want to check on the going rates for different positions at the P4 level. And there is a big difference between the world of "La Tech" and "Baylor". One of them is in a P4 conference. Comparing La Tech with Baylor is silly and not adult conversation. 

15 minutes ago, purpleeagle said:

The point is that he would probably play for La. Tech  may never start for Baylor. The degree at Baylor is probably not any better than La. Tech. 

“Playing for La Tech” does not override “1 million dollars at Baylor”. And no, a degree at La Tech is not “the same as Baylor”.
 

Might be one of the more ridiculous things I have heard in this forum.

**Also, no reason to think he will not play at Baylor.

20 minutes ago, purpleeagle said:

as a high school athlete  you are outstanding but just another athlete in college.-where is Barrier now?  Luke would be better off signing with someone like Louisiana Tech, getting his degree while he is enrolled there. He has a close relative who has set a good example for him. You sign with a D1 school you will probably find 2 or 3  D1 QB ‘s setting on the bench.

LOL. He would be "better off" getting "LA Tech degree" than getting a million $$ and a "Baylor degree". LOL!!!!!

2 hours ago, SmashMouth said:

I'm sorry sir, you are incorrect on this one. I do this for a living. I'll keep the explanation as short as possible, but as long as your replies as the former employer are fact-based and not purposefully inflammatory, you can relay certain info about a previous employee to a prospective employer. Especially if the prospect in question has signed a release.

Chapter 103 of the Texas Labor Code protects from defamation liability an employer who releases information about a current or former employee to a prospective new employer, unless "the information disclosed was known by that employer to be false at the time the disclosure was made or that the disclosure was made with malice or in reckless disregard for the truth or falsity of the information disclosed."

Follow my guidelines, and it will serve you well:

Release only factual information

Supply Only What Is Requested

Tell the Truth

Avoid Inflammatory Terms

Use a Written Release Form

 

 

Read my last sentence in the comment you quoted. 

3 hours ago, Setx fan said:

The people who have the power to run off a coach at Woodville couldn't care less how athletes are being used or if they're being utilized at all. Coach Rob and some of that coaching staff from that year are at Palestine now so look out for Palestine in the next couple years though 

Everyone knows that the little league coaches are the power brokers regarding football in Woodville. 

1 hour ago, SmashMouth said:

Not necessarily the case. If you're a prospective employee and you sign an "Employment Information Release" or "Authorization for Release of Information" with a prospective employer so they can vet you (pretty common practice these days), the document gives past employers explicit written permission to share details about your work history. It also acts as a liability release, protecting the previous company from lawsuits (such as defamation claims) for the information they provide.

The release authorizes the new employer to conduct a background check. It does not release a "former employer" to say things that are confidential outside of what was identified. In the event that a former employer provides unsubstantiated (rumor based or opinion) information that prevents a person from getting hired there is exposure regardless of any signed document.  

For clarification: schools run a background check from the DPS database. If that comes back "clear", the school check references. Former employers are only technically allowed to provide 1. dates of employment 2. eligible for rehire yes/no 3. they may also provide safety info for DOT sensitive positions. 

Anything beyond the above listed information can expose the former employer to legal trouble. If they reveal unsubstantiated or unverified rumor type information that prevents a former employee from being hired, they can be subject to lawsuits. 

6 hours ago, TrojanWarrior08 said:

In my opinion some are and I'm speaking for the parents of kids that I've actually played with if that talent falls on them like their parents have.  Now if you're talking generational talent that once and awhile that comes along then I would totally agree with you as none of those former players or their children lives in San Jacinto County anymore with the exception of a few and they don't play sports.

A kid growing up and playing sports in Shepherd is typically not considered “Coldspring best players moving to Shepherd” just because the parents are from Coldspring. There is not a school in the state where many parents grew up somewhere else. There are currently no players in Shepherd that were formerly one of “Coldspring best players”. 
 

Coldspring does/has had difference makers walking the halls who do not play sports. 

1 minute ago, TrojanWarrior08 said:

Idk which ones but the ones that I do know that are my classmates from Coldspring already has kids going to Shepherd now and some are already playing organized sports now.

That is not "Coldspring best players" moving to Shepherd. Plenty of former families from Shepherd in Coldspring as well. As far as recent players go, there are more examples of Shepherd players moving to Coldspring. 

4 minutes ago, PlayActionPass said:

It's just like when the Moye family "moved" to Shepherd.....

Families are jumping ship in Coldspring and Willis and Shepherd are the logical destinations.

I am unaware of any "best Coldspring players" at Shepherd right now. 

3 minutes ago, PlayActionPass said:

The best football players from Coldspring are already going to Shepherd. 

What is really sad is that the rest of the football players will join the basketball players in Onalaska when they start football. 

Which one is "going to Shepherd"? 

2 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Right. Didn't have any other choice but to let him go.

That would be the case any where.

I doubt the HC was even consulted about "cutting him". He wasn't going to have any say in this one. 

54 minutes ago, mat said:

He didn’t think twice about cutting him. Right move.

He "didn't think twice about cutting him" once he was arrested for "sexual assault of a child". Very noble indeed. 

5 minutes ago, navydawg31 said:

I think it’s safe to say he won’t ever step foot on a campus again…

Probably be a while before he sets foot in public.

53 minutes ago, purpleeagle said:

Is this a school board problem? 

Definitely part of it 

9 hours ago, TrojanWarrior08 said:

I think that this would be a good destination spot for a young up and coming coach or someone that is local that knows the situation well and can turn us around... I think someone like Ben Goffney should definitely look into this.

I believe the replacement decision has already been made.

50 minutes ago, TrojanWarrior08 said:

This will be the end of Coldspring being a somewhat respectable program in terms of talent (hopefully not) and not just the things that you've listed.  This has been a long time coming since the end of the Barbay years.

Will be a tough road for the foreseeable future.