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Westwood is in chaos. EC likely to win 

37 minutes ago, CDub86 said:

Fully aware that Tarkington is more “stepping stone” than “landing spot” at this point. Also agree that the “front office” needs to put a better foot forward.

Most coaches will not seek to be in an environment where they are not valued by the community. If they are not paid well and have the worst resources it lets a potential coach know where the district values lie. 

39 minutes ago, CDub86 said:

So what should be the course of action? Does the school just stay the course?

We’ve literally regressed since Taylor left for Hardin. We’ve gone from back to back 4 win seasons (which is a good year for Tarkington let’s be honest) to now winless again.

Tarkington been changing drivers for a while with similar results. Time to look at the car and crew chief. 
 

What is one positive thing that Tarkington can offer to a potential coach? Poor pay? The worst resources in 4A for the entire state of Texas? Talent deficit? 

5 hours ago, Reagan said:

Always blaming the kids won't win you friends and influence people.  Tarkington just hasn't got the right coach yet.  Will they?  Maybe -- maybe not.  

Yes, Tarkington "just hasnt got the right coach yet" (for many decades), similar to "Huntington". FYI, Tarkington has a great coach now. You might want to look internally as opposed to blaming every coach in the history of Tarkington ISD. ***Who was the coach prior to Belt? Is he a good coach? 

4 hours ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

Skill level is not. That why we had so many underclassmen playing varsity. If residual that one or two seasons why he able to farther then previous coach ever did?

Man if you had seen how Shepherd plain out handled Jasper a couple weeks ago f****ing Shepherd (One of teams should always beat just because they out talent them  regardless who is coaching instead they had first loss ever in football to Shepherd) it would be much more clear about talent level.

You dont "out talent" Shepherd at the moment. It will be worse next year, 18 JR starters will be returning for Shepherd.

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

Feel free to blame the kids all you want.  I personally stay away from that!

Good for you. Win/loss in sports is directly proportional to talent. 
 

Check out Tarkington when you get a chance.

13 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Or -- he was able to cultivate the personnel he had.  Like maybe this coach can't!  

The current personnel are the worst seen in several decades. They were that way before the current coach arrived and everyone knew this would happen.

FYI, when the current freshman arrive on varsity, Jasper will be good again regardless of who the coach is at the time.

16 minutes ago, Tiger33 said:

Looked like a double wing at times…. Is it slot t?

Yes, double wing. 

7 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Silsbee has played one Slot T (Vidor) and one Wing T (Shepherd).

No wing T in Shepherd. 

17 minutes ago, CDub86 said:

Well they got one….thats about all that can be said about it.

The sad thing is that it’s the kids that suffer.

Yep, bad for everyone. Takes a special type of coach to take a job in Tarkington. Low on the pay scale for the area, terrible resources and no end in sight. 

On 11/8/2025 at 1:54 AM, CDub86 said:

We get no enthusiasm from our staff, plenty of high fives and fist bumps but no enthusiasm, excitement or communication when it comes to the game.

Tarkington is fortunate to have a staff. 

8 hours ago, RoughneckGuy said:

RoughneckGuy says so no Columbia and La Marque have great shots to win over Shepherd and HF!

Sweeny and Wharton, RoughneckGuy says no they will not beat Silsbee and WOS.

West Columbia is the district champion playing a fourth-place team that has never won a playoff game in 4A and is the overwhelming favorite. WC should start planning for Sealy. 

Will be present and supporting WOS on Thursday in New Caney.

Shepherd VS West Columbia

Nov 14 @ 7:00 PM

Maddry Stadium, Channelview

Congrats to WOS on the Championship but also credit to HF for making this one close. I thought WOS would have won this by a much greater margin. Good chance for a District sweep in the first round. 

7 hours ago, Vini vidi said:

District
9
Center
Cleveland Tarkington
Huntington
Jasper
Shepherd
District
10
Hamshire-Fannett
Hardin-Jefferson
Liberty
Silsbee
West Orange-Stark

this was district 9/10 in 18-20. 
4a d2.

 

enough about past realignments. 
 

Agreed. Stop making comments about past alignments.

1 hour ago, TrojanWarrior08 said:

This district could happen again minus Carthage since I'm hearing Henderson may be dropping to D2 so I'm pretty sure they will be in whatever district Carthage will be in so to rectify that you would have to look a little bit more west to add another school into a district like this and you can keep Tarkington down south.

Center would love that 

8 hours ago, Vini vidi said:

Tark and shepherd could easily go north. Not to long ago they were in with center, jasper, and Huntington 

Tarkington and Huntington were not in that district.

5 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

If the cutoff number is 520ish, that also means Tarkington stays 4A.

You could possibly have this many 4A DII teams locally:

Bridge City

Hardin-Jefferson

Liberty

Hamshire-Fannett

Jasper

Orangefield

Silsbee

Shepherd

Tarkington

WO-S

 

I would think UIL would then ship Tarkington, Shepherd and possibly Jasper to another district.

I suspect Shepherd and Tarkington would likely go to the Bellville district or a North district could form again. Keeping in mind that Hitchcock will be moving up and into the district with Lamarque and company. There are a lot of moving parts. 

13 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Depends on if UIL allows it this time.

Be interesting to see how the districts shake out if all 3 stay where they belong and especially if OF bumps up. 

2 hours ago, OlDawg said:

I think I saw where La Porte had lost almost 10% student enrollment. Immigration policies having a big impact I suspect. With all these numbers, I’ll be curious to see overall test scores at the next evaluation. I have to think they’ll go up with less ESL issues.

This is the driving factor. Should provide cumulative relief system wide. 
 

I expect the drop to be much more dramatic at the next alignment.

8 hours ago, Reagan said:

I see the results.  Not debatable!  It's my understanding that he's just been replaced as starting QB.  Probably never would have happened if Dodge was his coach.  So...

You have no idea as you were not present with the kid throughout the journey and have no idea what factors were in play. It is very bold and arrogant to say that you know better than a child's parent.

And even more ridiculous to say you know more than this kid's parent who is well experienced coach intimately acquainted with every detail pertaining to his own kid. 

32 minutes ago, Reagan said:

I beg to differ.  I know his Dad is a coach.  That also tells me his Dad wasn't good enough to get the most out of his kid.  I'll say again -- give him 3 years with Dodge and you'd seen a dramatic difference.  Contrary to what some may believe here there are differences in coaches.  Some good, some bad and some in between.

Regardless of the drop in numbers, WOS still has the talent.  Just like West Brook  and United actually has talent.  But...

Just my opinion.

You know more about what's best for the kid than the kids dad who is a long-time coach? I think I would defer to the parent for "getting the most out of their kid". 

41 minutes ago, hondo1 said:

I really didn't think it was possible to be this delusional about anything,  much less a high school football program. Please tell anyone reading this post how do you " Coach " someone with no athletic abilities,  into being a division 1 or 5 star athlete???? Last I checked speed, athleticism,  agility, jumping abilities, hand eye coordination, none of those things can be " instilled " in a player by a Coach.  There have been numerous players that have played Division 1 athletics and literally didn't play the sport in high school,  much less be coached into being able to play. Their athletic abilities made it possible not any Coach. 

1000% Coaches do not tackle, block, run, catch or throw. Cannot win games without the “dudes”. 

33 minutes ago, hondo1 said:

So when WOS wins a game it's because of the athletes , but when they lose it's because the coach and his staff is worthless and don't know what they're doing? Got it, it's kinda like how Dallas SOC is about to go to their 5th State Championship game in a row, but many people like you don't their head coach and his staff knows what they're doing either, it's all " them athletes they got " 😒

It is all frivolous discussion. WOS is not going to lose this game. They will win handily.