Rake1

Top to bottom Silsbee swings the bat as well or better than any team I've seen so far this season, they can flat out hit. Their record proves they are a quality team. The Tigers played a much more difficult pre-season schedule this year than in the past and have done well. BC will have to get a great effort from Guidry and some much better defense than they have shown thus far. BC's pre-season schedule has not been an easy one either, they have played some outstanding teams as well. I have no doubt this one goes to the team that stays away from giving up a big inning and has the least errors. A win by either of these teams should not shock or surprise anyone who looks at the game objectively. Silsbee does have the luxury of throwing the whole staff if needed since this will be their only game this week. "All hands on deck." Looks like a matchup between Guidry (BC) and probably Powell (Silsbee). Both quality arms and both are coming off of good performances in their last outings. It's gonna be a good one, or at least I hope it is. Everyone wants to see this one played clean and error free so it can be settled on the field. Good luck to my friends in Silsbee. Hoping for the Cardinals to pull this one out. Save me a seat! Rake1

[quote name="bedelmon" post="1386033" timestamp="1363442659"] Texas leagers, errors, passed balls and walks... [/quote] Congrats to Coach Landry and the Mustangs on a great win and for taking advantage of "every opportunity", all 14 of them. 8) Rake1

[quote name="utfan06" post="1386027" timestamp="1363438403"] [quote author=XDOG link=topic=110262.msg1386017#msg1386017 date=1363410986] Ugliest win. We looked horrible IMO! Better tighten it up ! [/quote] Everytime BC plays a close game or loses you hear this  ::) [/quote] What's your point? Instead of saying how great the win was an honest fan makes a real statement without looking through rose colored glasses like many others do. Not real sure what else you want him to say.....? Rake1

WOS loses a tough one last night after outhitting HF and sqaundering a 12 strikeout 3 hitter by Anderson. Have to tip your cap to HF for taking advantage of WOS miscues and finding a way to win. Rake1

[quote name="Franchiseball" post="1385282" timestamp="1363197830"] Exactly so why would you consider that a hit. Buna was home team so we scored it an error. That's official [/quote] Wow?? When is the last time anybody ever went to the home scorekeeper and asked "was that a hit?" ;) I've seen questions about score, substitutions, counts, and even pitch counts in little league but never saw anyone go to the "official scorekeeper" and get an "official ruling" on hit or error. Rake1

[quote name="Franchiseball" post="1385263" timestamp="1363196024"] Rake1 and Critter I'm assuming you have sons that play or you were a player yourself. Ask yourself this would your son or yourself in high school made that play? I think I know the answer to that! [/quote] I can't speak for Critter but I can say I fall into both catagories. I honestly believe the outfielder last night probably makes that play from time to time, unfortunately last night he didn't and the way it gets scored is the way it gets scored. We have all seen MLB guys get turned around and not make a play that perhaps they make on other occasions, it happens, and it gets scored accordingly. That's the great thing about baseball, it all evens out in the long run. A ball that is absolutely hammered right at a guy gets caught and another one not hit nearly as well finds a hole, gets lost in the lights, or goes over a guys head. Tell me Franchiseball how many times have you ever questioned or been questioned by someone else about if a hit was a hit or was it an error? Happens every game, I hear it from plenty of really knowledgeable baseball folks. MLB official scorekeepers often go back and change their own decisions during a game or even after completion because it's "their judgement" and right to do so. On a "judgement" or "subjective" call you will never get a 100% agreement from everyone.  Either way it all comes out in the wash. Rake1

[quote name="deputy20" post="1385224" timestamp="1363186207"] [quote author=Rake1 link=topic=110150.msg1385219#msg1385219 date=1363184701] [quote author=643 link=topic=110150.msg1385193#msg1385193 date=1363167888] [quote author=Rake1 link=topic=110150.msg1385019#msg1385019 date=1363134985] [quote author=Franchiseball link=topic=110150.msg1385014#msg1385014 date=1363134597] Sure looked like a big ole E to me flyball that should have been caught [/quote] Unless they changed the definition of the word ERROR that's a hit all day. Never put a glove on it, it's a hit. Should've been caught no doubt, but you know the old phrase "shoulda, coulda , woulda!" Rake1 [/quote]So what your saying if a fielder lets a ball go between his legs with his glove on his head its a hit....a errow is a ball that can be caught with normal effort plain n simple....this is why you have kids with high BAs [/quote] As defined in MLB rules Rule 10.12(a)(1) Comment: Slow handling of the ball that does not involve mechanical misplay shall not be construed as an error. For example, the official scorer shall not charge a fielder with an error if such fielder fields a ground ball cleanly but does not throw to first base in time to retire the batter. It is not necessary that the fielder touch the ball to be charged with an error.[color=red] [b]If a ground ball goes through a fielder's legs or a fly ball falls untouched and, in the scorer's judgment, the fielder could have handled the ball with ordinary effort, the official scorer shall charge such fielder with an error.[/b][/color] In the case of the fly ball last night that has some folks "up in arms" the outfielder had a ball hit over his head to the wall and he did not make the catch. Would you like for him to make that catch, sure, but it's not a normal play and required more effort. If you want to point to one that should've been caught and was scored a hit you can look at the ball that was lost in the lights by the centerfielder and rightfielder, nobody touched the ball, it's also scored a hit. In the "sarcastic" example of the fielder with a glove on his head and the ball through his legs, yes that's an error. Just remember the "magic" words "in the scorer's judgement" and "ordinary effort". Let me know if I need to type slower so you can follow.  8) Rake1 [/quote]I think what you read from the "mlb rules" is exactly what 643 was saying [/quote] Like I stated earlier, I agree with the example of the ball through the fielders legs. I also gave the reason why the ball hit to left that was not caught is scored a hit and not considered an error. Rake1

[quote name="643" post="1385193" timestamp="1363167888"] [quote author=Rake1 link=topic=110150.msg1385019#msg1385019 date=1363134985] [quote author=Franchiseball link=topic=110150.msg1385014#msg1385014 date=1363134597] Sure looked like a big ole E to me flyball that should have been caught [/quote] Unless they changed the definition of the word ERROR that's a hit all day. Never put a glove on it, it's a hit. Should've been caught no doubt, but you know the old phrase "shoulda, coulda , woulda!" Rake1 [/quote]So what your saying if a fielder lets a ball go between his legs with his glove on his head its a hit....a errow is a ball that can be caught with normal effort plain n simple....this is why you have kids with high BAs [/quote] As defined in MLB rules Rule 10.12(a)(1) Comment: Slow handling of the ball that does not involve mechanical misplay shall not be construed as an error. For example, the official scorer shall not charge a fielder with an error if such fielder fields a ground ball cleanly but does not throw to first base in time to retire the batter. It is not necessary that the fielder touch the ball to be charged with an error.[color=red] [b]If a ground ball goes through a fielder's legs or a fly ball falls untouched and, in the scorer's judgment, the fielder could have handled the ball with ordinary effort, the official scorer shall charge such fielder with an error.[/b][/color] In the case of the fly ball last night that has some folks "up in arms" the outfielder had a ball hit over his head to the wall and he did not make the catch. Would you like for him to make that catch, sure, but it's not a normal play and required more effort. If you want to point to one that should've been caught and was scored a hit you can look at the ball that was lost in the lights by the centerfielder and rightfielder, nobody touched the ball, it's also scored a hit. In the "sarcastic" example of the fielder with a glove on his head and the ball through his legs, yes that's an error. Just remember the "magic" words "in the scorer's judgement" and "ordinary effort". Let me know if I need to type slower so you can follow.  8) Rake1 

[quote name="Franchiseball" post="1385014" timestamp="1363134597"] Sure looked like a big ole E to me flyball that should have been caught [/quote] Unless they changed the definition of the word ERROR that's a hit all day. Never put a glove on it, it's a hit. Should've been caught no doubt, but you know the old phrase "shoulda, coulda , woulda!" Rake1

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1384516" timestamp="1362962701"] I am now ready for baseball! ;D Looking forward to trying out the new pressbox at the Tiger Diamond! [/quote] Come on AAW! As nice as all the improvements are to Silsbee's baseball field I just knew y'all would build a "cadillac" press box and not one that looks like a snow cone stand! It's probably a disguise, y'all have a half a dozen big screens in there with the MLB package playing along cold beverages and hot food more than likely. The rest of us "common folk" will never know unless you give us the password to enter or put our name on the list with the doorman! Either way, if I come to the window and knock will you make me a small rainbow snowcone? ;D Seriously though the new stuff that's been done at the field is nice, good place to see a game. Rake1

[quote name="utfan1982" post="1383204" timestamp="1362606779"] [quote author=Rake1 link=topic=110046.msg1383169#msg1383169 date=1362596649] [quote author=utfan1982 link=topic=110046.msg1383150#msg1383150 date=1362592780] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=110046.msg1383138#msg1383138 date=1362588962] Brook has now played or scrimmaged most of the teams in the district.  As a non-biased observer, it seems to me that Nederland is clearly better than the others.  PNG, Livingston, LCM and Vidor seem about equal.  They all have decent pitching and average hitting.  Ozen has a nice pitcher, but they need more players.  I don't see them being in the hunt.  Haven't seen Central, but I assume they are still Central. [/quote] Yes, I agree that Nederland is clearly above the rest as it stands now. They have a dominant arm in Sanderson and have the offense that is capable of putting up crooked numbers against anyone. LCM will always be in contention but I dont know if they have enough talent to win games away from the matchbox they play their home games in. [color=purple][b]PNG has underperformed IMO but if Ashworth gets rolling then this team should win just about every game he throws in.[/b][/color] Vidor has some pitching but is also underperforming IMO and their offense is just too inconsistent. Lumberton is inconsistent in every facet of the game it seems , and I dont believe they have the stud arm to win low scoring games against other top aces. Ozen and Livingston are both good when their #1 is on the mound but they just dont have enough around them to be consistent. And Central is Central but hopefully they will take steps in the right direction this season. Six days and counting! [/quote] This statement should read.... PNG has underperformed IMO but as long as [color=red][b]Ledoux continues rolling[/b][/color] then this team should win just about every game he throws in. Rake1 [/quote] Na, I'm going to stick with my previous statement. Clearly Ledoux is already rolling right now and the Indians have been great with him on the bump. But that being said, (depending on how your schedule falls) having a 1-2 you can throw out there and be the favorite every night is the key in district play. I picked PNG to win district this year back in January and if Ashworth can get on a roll (and if Ledoux can continue doing what he has done) I think there is a good chance this team could give Nederland a run for the 20-4A title. [/quote] Stick with your statement, no problem, I'll stick with the numbers from last year and the current season which firmly establishes who is the #1. Regardless who "you think" is the #1 is they are both quality arms. Rake1

Anybody know who pitched for Livingston? Rake1

[quote name="utfan1982" post="1383150" timestamp="1362592780"] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=110046.msg1383138#msg1383138 date=1362588962] Brook has now played or scrimmaged most of the teams in the district.  As a non-biased observer, it seems to me that Nederland is clearly better than the others.  PNG, Livingston, LCM and Vidor seem about equal.  They all have decent pitching and average hitting.  Ozen has a nice pitcher, but they need more players.  I don't see them being in the hunt.  Haven't seen Central, but I assume they are still Central. [/quote] Yes, I agree that Nederland is clearly above the rest as it stands now. They have a dominant arm in Sanderson and have the offense that is capable of putting up crooked numbers against anyone. LCM will always be in contention but I dont know if they have enough talent to win games away from the matchbox they play their home games in. [color=purple][b]PNG has underperformed IMO but if Ashworth gets rolling then this team should win just about every game he throws in.[/b][/color] Vidor has some pitching but is also underperforming IMO and their offense is just too inconsistent. Lumberton is inconsistent in every facet of the game it seems , and I dont believe they have the stud arm to win low scoring games against other top aces. Ozen and Livingston are both good when their #1 is on the mound but they just dont have enough around them to be consistent. And Central is Central but hopefully they will take steps in the right direction this season. Six days and counting! [/quote] This statement should read.... PNG has underperformed IMO but as long as [color=red][b]Ledoux continues rolling[/b][/color] then this team should win just about every game he throws in. Rake1

Much better game for BC tonite. Guidry had his best outing so far. Rake1

[quote name="Gladtobehere" post="1382198" timestamp="1362340028"] [quote author=Rake1 link=topic=109787.msg1382185#msg1382185 date=1362337699] [quote author=Geaux Tigers link=topic=109787.msg1382181#msg1382181 date=1362336322] Correct, but BC only scored once when silsbee pitched their 3rd best pitcher. Silsbee was beating them 3 to 1 [b]going into either the 4th or 5th (not sure) and they took him out because he reached his max limit of pitches and the other pitchers were already either used or being saved for the next day.[/b] After that they put a non pitcher in to pitch who hasn't pitched a game this season BECAUSE HE ISN'T A PITCHER .. after all the walks, and hits from BC. of course BC won by ten run rule. But if silsbee had there pitcher rested like they will be in district play. Silsbee can compete for 1st in district [/quote] Incorrect statement!! BC's Bryce Sampere hit a 3 run HR off of Silsbee's starter before he was pulled, BC took a 4-3 lead at that point. Silsbee's starter had done a good job keeping BC off balance but once the Cardinals saw him for the 2nd time that's when the game turned. It did get out of hand once Silsbee ran out of pitching. One thing to remember also is that BC threw a complete game with the #4 pitcher and he did a number on the Silsbee bats after giving up 3 early. Biggest difference right now is pitching depth, Silsbee is trying to get over some injuries and BC is really deep on the hill. These 2 teams will certainly play some exciting baseball against one another this year, especially if both teams are at full strength. Rake1 [/quote] Rake, If you think that Silsbee wasn't still in that game down 4-3 when the decision was made to pull the starter then you are sadly mistaken.  You make the statement that the second time through the order that the game turned????  Not so sure I agree but keep in mind that the starter was at 93 pitches total for the day and had about 40 minutes from the last pitch of the Lumberton game until he threw the first pitch against BC. [/quote] I guess my statement above was either written wrong or misunderstood, not sure which? I don't believe I said anywhere in a previous statement, or implied, that Silsbee was out of the game? If that's the way it was perceived then I apologize. I do believe the momentum shifted about the same time the starter had reached his pitch limit for the day. The home run, subsequent lead change, lack of available arms, and high pitch count was just a bad combination. Silsbee's starter was behind the 8 ball when he started the BC game after having to close the game before and then sit, I agree 100% with that statement! In discussions with my friends from Silsbee this was the concensus among everyone but he was without a doubt the best available pitcher. For 3 plus innings he threw a great game, as I mentioned already above. There was no slight or disrespect intended, if it came off that way, again, I apologize. IMHO I think the games between BC and Silsbee this year will be very equal and entertaining. Respectfully, Rake1

[quote name="Critter" post="1382191" timestamp="1362338659"] [quote author=Rake1 link=topic=109787.msg1382185#msg1382185 date=1362337699] [quote author=Geaux Tigers link=topic=109787.msg1382181#msg1382181 date=1362336322] Correct, but BC only scored once when silsbee pitched their 3rd best pitcher. Silsbee was beating them 3 to 1 [b]going into either the 4th or 5th (not sure) and they took him out because he reached his max limit of pitches and the other pitchers were already either used or being saved for the next day.[/b] After that they put a non pitcher in to pitch who hasn't pitched a game this season BECAUSE HE ISN'T A PITCHER .. after all the walks, and hits from BC. of course BC won by ten run rule. But if silsbee had there pitcher rested like they will be in district play. Silsbee can compete for 1st in district [/quote] Incorrect statement!! BC's Bryce Sampere hit a 3 run HR off of Silsbee's starter before he was pulled, BC took a 4-3 lead at that point. Silsbee's starter had done a good job keeping BC off balance but once the Cardinals saw him for the 2nd time that's when the game turned. It did get out of hand once Silsbee ran out of pitching. One thing to remember also is that BC threw a complete game with the #4 pitcher and he did a number on the Silsbee bats after giving up 3 early. Biggest difference right now is pitching depth, Silsbee is trying to get over some injuries and BC is really deep on the hill. These 2 teams will certainly play some exciting baseball against one another this year, especially if both teams are at full strength. Rake1 [/quote] Your are right Rake1.... The main reason I posted a response about Silsbee beating BC is because someone said they have the bats... Just posting that It doesn't matter who Silsbee pitched, their pitcher didn't hurt their bats. And their bats couldn't get it going against BC's #4.... I am sure Silsbee will get a dose of Guidry come district time. [/quote] Make no mistake!! Silsbee can swing it! They are the best hitting team in the district that I have seen so far, period. They have good athletes throughout their lineup and have the potential to turn any fastball around and lose it. Whoever plays them will certainly need to bring their A game every inning. Rake1

[quote name="Geaux Tigers" post="1382181" timestamp="1362336322"] Correct, but BC only scored once when silsbee pitched their 3rd best pitcher. Silsbee was beating them 3 to 1 [b]going into either the 4th or 5th (not sure) and they took him out because he reached his max limit of pitches and the other pitchers were already either used or being saved for the next day.[/b] After that they put a non pitcher in to pitch who hasn't pitched a game this season BECAUSE HE ISN'T A PITCHER .. after all the walks, and hits from BC. of course BC won by ten run rule. But if silsbee had there pitcher rested like they will be in district play. Silsbee can compete for 1st in district [/quote] Incorrect statement!! BC's Bryce Sampere hit a 3 run HR off of Silsbee's starter before he was pulled, BC took a 4-3 lead at that point. Silsbee's starter had done a good job keeping BC off balance but once the Cardinals saw him for the 2nd time that's when the game turned. It did get out of hand once Silsbee ran out of pitching. One thing to remember also is that BC threw a complete game with the #4 pitcher and he did a number on the Silsbee bats after giving up 3 early. Biggest difference right now is pitching depth, Silsbee is trying to get over some injuries and BC is really deep on the hill. These 2 teams will certainly play some exciting baseball against one another this year, especially if both teams are at full strength. Rake1

I'll be at the game sending updates to Admin Babe Ruth. Rake1

[quote name="643" post="1379300" timestamp="1361822018"] Its awfull early in the yr to be talking about a pitchers perfomance against whoever, Do you honestly think Duplant ain't had any mound time in over a yr, its really trivial what he or any player does this early in the season, most are still not conditioned.... [/quote] I agree with the comment about the early season to a degree. Conditioning is a big factor for sure. I would however like to add that some of these guys like Guidry are already throwing against some top notch programs and having success. And by the way if we want to compare summer innings Guidry wins that one also since he lit it up at East Cobb with the Sundevils. That's about as good as you can get when you talk competition and he more than excelled. Rake1

Anderson had 14K's in 6 innings for WOS Rake1

[quote name="Critter" post="1377206" timestamp="1361463155"] Who is PNG's #1 Pitcher? [/quote] No question at all, it's Ledoux. Way too smooth and polished on the hill. Rake1

[quote name="Txdragon" post="1376475" timestamp="1361368483"] It was 0-0 through 6 and really good game. Kinda a shame to end up like it did. [/quote] 2-0 LCM thru 6. Bears score 2 in the 4th on passed balls. And yes it was a good game until the last inning. Rake1

[quote name="stigers12" post="1376085" timestamp="1361316596"] 1. BC 2. Silsbee 3.HF/HJ Its hard to bet against BC ever when it comes to baseball. More studs moving in this year to replenish what they lost. I think Silsbee will give them a fun game as usual and have a chance, but I dont see anyone taking the district crown from them. As for third I dont know if Buna can do it after losing those players. HF has a bunch of good returning players, and with [b][color=green]Duplant, likely the best pitcher in the district ahead of Guidry[/color][/b], back at HJ you have to think they have a shot. People seem to forget he won super gold mvp as a soph. in a tough 4a district...He will definitely make a huge impact. Gunna be fun, Good Luck Tigers!!! [/quote] Seems awful hard to say a player who hasn't thrown a varsity inning in over a year is better than a guy who helped carry his team 4 rounds deep in the playoffs, was in the top 3 in the state in ERA, top 20 in the state in strikeouts, and is signed to play Division 1 baseball. Just an observation. Not saying the talent isn't there but let's be a little more objective how about it? Rake1

This was a 2-0 game going into the 7th inning, much closer than final would lead you to believe. WOS started Anderson and he shut down LCM thru 3. Daniel Woodson pitched the next few innings for WOS and did well also. The Mustangs finished with Lebouef, and Grant Anderson. LCM scored their first 2 runs on passed balls. Swan, Humphrey, Roddy, and Wendt all threw for LCM. Mustangs managed 3 hits while the Bears had 4. An 8 run 7th inning was courtesy of walks, passed balls and 1 timely hit for the Bears. Each team was obviously being careful with pitching since they each have tournaments starting Thursday. Rake1

[quote name="Critter" post="1375848" timestamp="1361297426"] [quote author=Rake1 link=topic=105217.msg1375826#msg1375826 date=1361295086] [quote author=Critter link=topic=105217.msg1375809#msg1375809 date=1361293350] We need more facts... What more can you give us? [/quote][quote author=ladytiger14 link=topic=105217.msg1375806#msg1375806 date=1361293029] Not talking smack, just stating the obvious. [/quote] C'mon Critter! You are way better than this! Please don't encourage the behavior ;D. You can bet 99% of the good Silsbee fans (and there are lots of them) out there wish comments like the ones above would go away. Rake1 [/quote] You are right Rake1, Just waiting for the real games that matter is driving me nuts....LOL... any word on time for tonight? I would sure hate to be late!!!..... [/quote] Checking field conditions at 1pm, should know something soon. [quote author=CATS80 link=topic=105217.msg1375851#msg1375851 date=1361298077] Ive been around Mr. Duplant for quite a while My son and him played GT baseball and He should not be taken lightly at all.  He is good and by no means taken lightly. And I assure you Silsbee tigers baseball team will not take him lightly. Nor anyone else from any other team. A lot can happen in a baseball game and thinking its in the bag would be a stupid mistake. One that the actual team would not make . [/quote] AHHHH.....a voice of reason! Well said Cats80